WINDOWS 10 What do you think

**Bettyboo** · 03-11-2015, 12:22 PM

If you have Win10 then you do not have a fake version of Office working.

You may also want to consider David's point regarding folks who just don't have the money; should they be kept in the third world because they don't have the money to pay? Is it ethically allowable for a corporation to design a global standard then force everyone to pay for it, against international laws and regulations? You'll noticed that MS gets fined time after time after time, but does not change it's behaviour - if that was you, it'd be 3 strikes and out; you'd be sucking Bubba...

**bsnub** · 03-11-2015, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

If you have Win10 then you do not have a fake version of Office working.

I do not know what a fake version is. But I have a cracked version of MS office 2016 working just fine thanks.

**pseudolus** · 03-11-2015, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

MS Office

I also detest microsoft, and am sticking with 7. However, as point of interest for you, after a set to I had with Skype (MS company now). I had purchased through my company 8 unlimited calls in Thailand for Business Use package. They then terminated them at a days notice keeping the money saying I was using it for business use which was prohibited under the terms of use for a business account (fucking twats). I was paying through paypal so after a while Paypal sided with me, and refunded me eventually saying that this was common with MS and Skype.

Anyway, here's the point. I immediately downloaded and started using Open Office and Thunderbird - I really like open office actually apart from a couple of bug bears which you find a way around and it becomes automatic. What I discovered though that even though I had long stopped paying for my Office 365 Business all singing all dancing set up..... it all still works. Everything. Outlook, the full lot. The only thing it does is a pop up saying "your subscription is out of date" or something. I click the X and close it and carry on regardless.

Sure they will catch on to this one day, but it's been a year now.....

So fuck em - if you have office 365 - stop paying and use it anyway.

**Bettyboo** · 03-11-2015, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I click the X and close it and carry on regardless.

Try that on Win10 and it crashes everytime; or at least it does in my experience, and I suspect this is a real focus for MS.

Skype is shite, consistent problems since it was bought out by MS; very invasive and hard to get rid of.

The main point really is the cost, they are just so greedy.

**pseudolus** · 03-11-2015, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by pseudolus

I click the X and close it and carry on regardless.

Try that on Win10 and it crashes everytime; or at least it does in my experience, and I suspect this is a real focus for MS.

Skype is shite, consistent problems since it was bought out by MS; very invasive and hard to get rid of.

The main point really is the cost, they are just so greedy.

Agree - on the original thread about win10 I speculated that they were going to run to subscriptions once the bulk of people were on it and nowhere else to go.

But specifically on Office365... stop paying, keep using.

**Bettyboo** · 03-11-2015, 01:10 PM

^ that 365 glitch must be when you already have a licensed version running then stop paying for it. If win10 detects a non-licensed version then it crashes it.

**pseudolus** · 03-11-2015, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ that 365 glitch must be when you already have a licensed version running then stop paying for it. If win10 detects a non-licensed version then it crashes it.

Maybe - I did have the yearly license then thought "bollocks to you". It's all working fine though - maybe because I am on 7?

**Bettyboo** · 03-11-2015, 01:15 PM

^ Yeah, I don't think 10 allows this, but it may be a glitch in 10 too?

My thoughts are that the prime focus of Win10 was to shore up all the holes and maximize profits. MS realized that the greed (and stupidity of consumers) with regard to Google and iApple had left them behind and they wanted to catch up. It's all insane.

I just wanna buy a product that works at a reasonable price, and I want that product to continue to work for a reasonable period of time. I don't want any fukin annual licenses, and I don't wanna be sucked into their eco-system. It's all immoral and unethical, imho...

**pseudolus** · 03-11-2015, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ Yeah, I don't think 10 allows this, but it may be a glitch in 10 too?

My thoughts are that the prime focus of Win10 was to shore up all the holes and maximize profits. MS realized that the greed (and stupidity of consumers) with regard to Google and iApple had left them behind and they wanted to catch up. It's all insane.

I just wanna buy a product that works at a reasonable price, and I want that product to continue to work for a reasonable period of time. I don't want any fukin annual licenses, and I don't wanna be sucked into their eco-system. It's all immoral and unethical, imho...

Back roll to 7, and try out open office. Its not perfect, but it works well... and free.

**baldrick** · 03-11-2015, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by bsnub

BTW Microsoft has sent out updates to Windows 7 and 8 that now do the same data collection as 10

not for win 7 - I moved back from 8.1 to 7 - torrented of course , I am not paying again for an OS

I am actually looking for a recommended tiny 7 torrent that has had most/all of the MS software removed - seems most of them are from 2 + years ago

**Bettyboo** · 03-11-2015, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by david44

My purpose was to evaluate the risks and merits for the non technical punter like myself

It works.

It's probably the best ever MS operating system. If you also have MS Office then you are set to go - everything works seamlessly, and if you add is Skype then you have lots of convenience too. It is the best working solution available, imho.

But, it's fuking expensive, immoral and unethical, aswellas illegal, imho.

**david44** · 03-11-2015, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

But, it's fuking expensive, immoral and unethical, aswellas illegal, imho.

MMMmmm

**Dillinger** · 03-11-2015, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

But, it's fuking expensive

Windows 10 is FREE, you can't get cheaper than that.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

immoral and unethical

If I remember right, the only reason you bought that shitty office 365 and handed over your credit card details was because you couldn't find a genuine copy of office home and student anywhere, you shifty bastard

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

it's criminal aswellas illegal

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I download win10 on my work computer (which shouldn't actually have been possible as I don't have the right administrator level passwords, etc, but MS did it anyways; not sure how), and now every time I attempt to load up an office doc it just crashes; obviously the company don't have original sw license

**Dragonfly** · 03-11-2015, 01:53 PM

I find it amazing that people will be dumb enough to upgrage to Win8 or Win10 and not find out about the spyware before doing it

Try Ubuntu Desktop, works great and do all you need to do for a PC

**bsnub** · 03-11-2015, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

not for win 7

Wrong

**Stinky** · 03-11-2015, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Try Ubuntu Desktop, works great and do all you need to do for a PC

There is a small learning curve going from Windows to Ubuntu but well worth the effort.

**baldrick** · 03-11-2015, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Try Ubuntu Desktop

I recommend Mint desktop as Ubuntu is turning toward the apple google msoft business model

Originally Posted by bsnub

Wrong

no

**harrybarracuda** · 03-11-2015, 03:59 PM

Oh fuck off with all this "I don't want my information shared" bollocks, you've already shared it. Your bank has it, your government has it, your ISP has it, your doctor has it, etc.

If you're serious about anonymity, use Tails, not Ubuntu or Mint.

Otherwise stop getting so bloody excited, they are more likely to look into you if they *can't* see you browsing pr0n.

**Dragonfly** · 03-11-2015, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by baldrick

I recommend Mint desktop as Ubuntu is turning toward the apple google msoft business model

ah shit. still go with an older version, should be good enough for the next 100 years

**Neo** · 03-11-2015, 04:30 PM

I'll stick with 7 for as long as I can, it works.
Tried Ubuntu a few years ago and it was dogshit, a lot of incompatibility issues.
If they ever make it straight out of the box user friendly I'd try it again.

**Neo** · 03-11-2015, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonfly

Try Ubuntu Desktop, works great and do all you need to do for a PC

You finally gave up on XP then?

**Bettyboo** · 03-11-2015, 04:38 PM

I also tried Ubuntu a couple of times and various free office applications - all rubbish...

That's not saying that they haven't improved in the last 5 years since I was on a big anti-MS kick.

**david44** · 03-11-2015, 05:08 PM

Thanks for all the conflictng advice

What will happen if I muddle along with the pre loaded 8.1 will it auto update to 10 or can I run it for a couple more years whch seems the life cycle of my laptops.

**baldrick** · 03-11-2015, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by david44

will it auto update to 10

it has likely downloaded 10 in the background with out asking

**Stinky** · 03-11-2015, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by david44

Thanks for all the conflictng advice

What will happen if I muddle along with the pre loaded 8.1

MS will send spy bots to crawl up your arse and monitor your every keystroke, forever!

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