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man with no head

Installing a stick of RAM is no more physically difficult than putting a ball in the hole. The only trick to it is knowing what you have and buying more of the same (or a larger quantity)...hence the need for the software utility to aid you. If you move beyond the fact that it's computer related then the 'it's too difficult' mentality vanishes. You're installing a physical item in a physical location no different than putting a light in a socket, a key in a lock, or something in your mouth.

Now, if it were an operating system installation and you'd never done such before then to claim that doing so is a piece of cake is akin to saying that open heart surgery is easy. Though I've done such a software installation likely 1000 times already it still would not behoove me to make such a claim.

ChiangMai noon

Smartarse.

ChiangMai noon

I don't know what to say.

ChiangMai noon

and that's rare becuse I'll say anything for a bit of post count.

man with no head

That makes another one

Really, though, people get too intimidated by technology at times. It doesn't have to be that way. Just associate X with something else you've done and it starts to make sense.

friscofrankie

I have seen users break their motherboards fuck up RAM sticks and ruin the slots. In fact, I have seen so-calleda tech ruin a $20,000 server doing something as simple as installing a network card. you, yourself have noted the inaccuracy of the software reporting a non existent RAM type. is he now supposed to believe it?

I truly believe that CMn is out of his depth here. He could get teh mainboard model from that application he's using go tothe Mfgr website and find out the type(s) of RAM supported copy that down and go buy it. Maybe he is unsure. This is a guy that couldn't tell a serial port from a video port if they weren't color coded.

Nothing wrong with going down getting it installed; installing a set of points in 65 chev 327 is easier and requires less skill; I know alot of folks that can't or won't do that. If you're not comfortable doing something. Don't do it.

I have a car, CMn, call me.

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ChiangMai noon

i honestly think it may be for the best.
Can you just stand in the background so I feel I have achieved something..unless i fukk it up of course.

I am not going to buy a lightbulb you know, I can do that.

NickA

Any idea of the cost of ram in thailand these days?

This thread has wet my appetite and i do like to stay ahead of the Jones's

man with no head

I always felt that involving the customer in simple upgrades was a good thing. At least it gave them a sense of doing something themselves and was a bit of opportunity for education. If it was going to take more than 5 minutes, involved more serious work (driver installations, OS updates, etc), or if the customer came across as a total bleeping moron then I wouldn't go to such lengths and would check the computer in the queue.

If I were there I'd help you install it so you could edumacate yourself in the process.

Thetyim

It won't have any doors once Cmn gets there

friscofrankie

If he's up for it I'll walk him through it. It ain;t brain surgery, with a little care and confidence anyone CAN do it. I do agree.

I remember when I built my first PC, I had read a little took an old one apart, I knew terms like RLL, MFM RAM and BIOS. No one taught me shit, I knew no one in the business. Now, I had built hundreds hi performance engines, complete custom made equipment of my own design. I had built diesel powered hydraulic cherry pickers, concrete pumps, drag bikes, and a couple a roundy-rounders. But building this first PC I was sweating like a fuckin ditch digger in july.

NickA

Have just taken out and had a look at my ram....it's kingston valueram KVR400x64c3a/512

this page tells you how to decipher all that..... ValueRAM - Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory

which tells me that I've got 512MB 400MHz DDR Non-ECC CL3 ram. (which still means pretty much nothing to me, other than it's nor DDR2), oh and it's PC3200

So, I'm guessing that I could upgrade to 1 GB by buying another 512MB ram that is exactly the same and sticking it in the second slot. (or would replacing the 512 with a new 1GB be better???)

I've got 4 slots, so do you think I can keep adding up to 2GB???

RDN

Er... probably, possibly, seems likely, maybe. Don't you have a manual for your PC? Or Google the PC manufacturer and type and find out what the max RAM is?

man with no head

Gosh, you guys make it harder than it needs to be.

Download the utility that I posted for CMN and run it...click on the mainboard tab. All the information you need about the mainboard is there. Manufacturer, model, date of the BIOS, etc.

man with no head

I'd bet a dozen beers you can upgrade to 4GB.

You might even have a dual-channel DDR motherboard (which would give a 5-10% performance boost if you populate both memory channels).

NickA

Yes, I could...

Yes, we do....

Yes, I'd think so too....

slimboyfat

i wish you would make the same bet with me. my crappy old PC only recognises 1GB RAM as 512MB

lom

Take a look in the manual (download it if you don't have it) and check if your mainboard requires the RAM slots to be populated in a certain order.

man with no head

If that's the case you're really behind the times as it appears you might have a Pentium III or older. I'm not aware of newer motherboards (Pentium 4/AthlonXP) having this limitation.

NickA

So I should put the new memory into the third slot, not next to the currnet ram? (they are marked DDR1-4, the current ram is in DDR1)