Video Transfer

[arfursixpence]

As I seemed to have had zilch replies from a revious thread I will try another tack.

All of you people out there that have digital video, what are you using to transfer the video to your computers?

I just bought a Firewire card and it is shit, it keeps corrupting the drivers after about 5 minutes.

My camera is a bit old in the tooth but is still IEEE1394OHCI Compliant, yet now two of my PCI cards will not work under Win7.

I get the camera recognised now, can control it using Premiere PRO CS5, but it all locks up after about 5 minutes and then the drivers in Device manager are all fucked up.

How are people transferring videos these days from their cameras? I thought Firewire was the standard?

Anyway, I have ordered a Texas Instruments Chipped card on IEEE1394 A/B that fits the more modern PCIE (PCIX) slot on my board.

I was just curious as to how people edit video these days, it surely cannot be by USB or analogue!!!

Puzzled!

[Kwang]

I use USB

[arfursixpence]

I use USB

Can you tell me how? what connectors and cables? Is it DV? (I thought USB was too slow - and I really didn't want to go and buy one of those damn cameras with the built in DVD/Hard drive) - Firewire is "On the fly"

I am using an old Sony TVR, it only allows USB from the memory card. I can use analogue from the camera if I use the Hi8 tapes, but the quality is crap, and I no longer have an analogue capture card.

The only way I can get DV from the Hi8 is using Firewire, not many Motherboards support it, and there is virtually no PCIeX cards around.

[fiddler]

Pros use Mac.
I'm not a pro and had some of the same problems you had with a PC.
Especially with the older cameras.
USB and Firewire are about the same speed.
The problem may be that your processor is too slow or the files you are trying to create are too big.
Try capturing a small file and you may have better luck.
Premiere has a history of problems but, patience (and lots of saving )(because it crashes a lot) will help.
I use my laptop and the processor is about 3.0 speed. Anything slower is just to problematic.
Hope this helps. I've switched to a camera with a memory card that makes transferring so much easier.

[FailSafe]

I have a fairly new Samsung camera, and I use their proprietary software (it's actually loaded in the camera and automatically installs itself)- it's an HMX-H300- damned nice little HD camera- they're only about $230 (~7K baht) these days.

[arfursixpence]

Thanks for the info, I think my camera is simply out of date!
When I bought it, it came with a Sony Memory Stick - 4MB! (12 seconds of video)
I am going to wait for this new Firewire card, if this doesn't work then it looks like I need a new camera.

The PC is fine, it runs 3.5-3.8 Ghz, in fact I was able to capture video no problem before using a P4 3.0 Ghz on Win 98.

It just looks like some incompatibility with PCI - IEEE1394 and Win 7.

Bugger!

I liked the camera as it can playback all of my old original Sony analogue tapes as well as the Digital 8 and Hi8 format. Guess I am getting long in the tooth, the camera is about 12 years old, so I suppose it has had its day.

Cheers for the replies!

[baldrick]

do you record to a memory card ? just take the cnut out and pop it into a USB2 card reader

[alwarner]

Thanks for the info, I think my camera is simply out of date!
When I bought it, it came with a Sony Memory Stick - 4MB! (12 seconds of video)
I am going to wait for this new Firewire card, if this doesn't work then it looks like I need a new camera.

The PC is fine, it runs 3.5-3.8 Ghz, in fact I was able to capture video no problem before using a P4 3.0 Ghz on Win 98.

It just looks like some incompatibility with PCI - IEEE1394 and Win 7.

Bugger!

I liked the camera as it can playback all of my old original Sony analogue tapes as well as the Digital 8 and Hi8 format. Guess I am getting long in the tooth, the camera is about 12 years old, so I suppose it has had its day.

Cheers for the replies!

Windows 7 and Firewire problem

Have a look at this, someone with same problem and a fix

[brisie]

I would be looking to see if your running out of ram.

Reading years ago the reason for firewire when USB can theoretically handle speeds of 480 MB/s is that fire wire can cary large packets. Video is large packet data that needs a shit load of ram.

Or if you have a driver for the firewire right click and run it in windows xp compatibility mode that might help.

[arfursixpence]

Thanks for the info, I think my camera is simply out of date!
When I bought it, it came with a Sony Memory Stick - 4MB! (12 seconds of video)
I am going to wait for this new Firewire card, if this doesn't work then it looks like I need a new camera.

The PC is fine, it runs 3.5-3.8 Ghz, in fact I was able to capture video no problem before using a P4 3.0 Ghz on Win 98.

It just looks like some incompatibility with PCI - IEEE1394 and Win 7.

Bugger!

I liked the camera as it can playback all of my old original Sony analogue tapes as well as the Digital 8 and Hi8 format. Guess I am getting long in the tooth, the camera is about 12 years old, so I suppose it has had its day.

Cheers for the replies!

Windows 7 and Firewire problem

Have a look at this, someone with same problem and a fix

Thank you, but I have tried these solutions and no joy, I think that the card is probably ancient.

I have ordered a Firewire PCI eX from Hong Kong, maybe this will solve the problems.

At the end of the day, it is an old camera (Win 95/98 Era) the card looks like it was designed at that time too, and I am trying to run it on Win 7 Ultimate x64.

[Kwang]

Just buy a usb memory card reader, only a hundred or so baht. i think you can buy them in 7/11 too

[arfursixpence]

I would be looking to see if your running out of ram.

Reading years ago the reason for firewire when USB can theoretically handle speeds of 480 MB/s is that fire wire can cary large packets. Video is large packet data that needs a shit load of ram.

Or if you have a driver for the firewire right click and run it in windows xp compatibility mode that might help.

Ram is not an issue, I could capture DV on my Win 98 with this camera using 1GB RAM.

The machine I have now is running Win7 at 3.6 Ghz and has 8 GB of RAM, it seems to be a Windows compatability issue.

As for running a driver in "compatibility mode" I cannot seem to be able to do this, there are no installation options, it is a Win7 driver and that is it.

Cheers