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    Picturethread: a week in Hong Kong and Macau.

    I've never been particularly interested in visiting either, but you ladies and gentlemen polled it into first place, so I decided to give it a go.

    Flight with Jinair from Incheon to Hong Kong then the Turbojet ferry to Macau then flights back to Incheon came in at around US$300, and that included paying extra for inflight meals and spacious emergency exit seats (well worth doing on low cost airlines, imho.

    Picked up 4500 HK dollars from the bank and got my train ticket to Seoul.



    Chokdee wondered if that'd be enough money...



    The arrival at Incheon (have to change trains in Seoul) only gave me about 30 minutes of wiggle room, but I reckon that with only hand baggage, as long as I check-in online then I'd be ok. So, the day before, I tried to check-in online - no dice...

    Changed the train ticket and planned to stay in Seoul overnight. Around midnight, I headed to Seoul.





    Decided to buy a nice pair of Nike Air Max for the trip - on sale, US$40.



    Korail 1st class has a lot more room and some snacks for around $8 extra, so I usually do that.

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    In Korea they have these jinjabang (spelling?) places which are 24 hour saunas, spas, ice rooms, hot tubs, showers, gym, massage, restaurants and sleeping areas. There's a very big one just behind Seoul station, it costs $15 for 12 hours - pretty good value; your pjs, towels, gym stuff is all included.













    (Sorry, I didn't take any pictures of the sleeping areas or naked dipping pools, etc...)

    About 05:30 ish, I headed to Seoul station to get the express train to the airport:






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    Your shoelaces are not equally balanced loop wise Betty!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    FFS get yourself togther!

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    Maybe, I should have called this: the Korea, Hong Kong and Macau photothread?

    So, it always amazing me how far down (basement level 7) you have to go to get the airport express train, and how inconvenient that is when carrying luggage...









    Early morning train, nearly empty.



    These are the kinda apartments you see all over Korea; they look awful, just ants living in a colony..., but some are nice inside and the prices are very high - US$250k and up to a lot of $$$.




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    I got to the airport early enough that the Q was not too bad.



    The airport lounge options in Incheon are shite, so I always end up spending loads of money on food and beer.





    For those of you who have never seen an airplane before:



    The Korean low cost airlines have terribly small legroom, but they do have 6 emergency exit seats that you can pay $20 for, which I do, but to my surprise, I was the only person who bothered on both routes - it is so much nicer, and you get extra attention from the cabin crew, as one seems to focus on the 6 higher cost seats.



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    Soooooo, I arrived in Hong Kong.

    Immigration was quick and easier, everyone was nice and efficient, time to get the airport express into town - very easy. The ticket I bought included the express train adn also 3 days of unlimited travel on the HK underground network, so that was really convenient.







    The trains were really nice, and the view into town was pleasant.





    I departed at Central station, had a quick look around and took a couple of photos:









    Then I got the underground up to Causeway because that's where I was staying for the first two nights.
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    Found my hotel and there was a restaurant next door, it was 12:30, so I popped in for some food.

    BTW, at a 7/11 I picked up a 7 day SIM for HK and Macau, including calls, texts and data, so that was very useful - Google maps, checking out bars, checking timetables for ferries, etc.





    Under 5 HK$ and tasted good, I went to this place a couple of times because it was quick, convenient locationwise and the food was decent.

    The Hotel was small, but very well located. It was clean. The staff were nice. But, you could hear the mainlanders in the next room, and the bathroom was tiny; it wasn't easy or fun to use.









    I think it cost me about $45 a night; if I go back to Hong Kong, I might look to spend more money, but it was a good option for the price.

    One of the reasons I booked this hotel was because it was within walking distance of the first trip of the holiday: Happy Valley Racetrack!













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    So thats what you get for 60 bucks a night in Hong Kong
    At least you'd never get out of the wrong side of the bed
    I'd love to see how they make it in the mornings.

    Top thread Betty. Loving the pics.

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    Got there early, stayed the whole night - it got full; loads of people, beer, food, fun. But, the racing here is fixed, the jockeys were holding horses back, putting favourites on the rail down the home straight when all the winners in every race were coming down the much faster ground 5 widths off the fence... Shockingly bad cheating, so don't put your money on horses in HK.

    I won the first race, decent money, lost every other race and ended up the night about 100 pounds down (on the track, that is).





























    Had a few beers, met a few people, we jumped on a tram outside the track into party town and...

    ...arrived home after 7 the next morning, wrecked, lost most of the day. Suffice to say, the money I lost on the track was by far the cheapest part of the evening.

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    Next day, had a bit of breakfast in Causeway, under 4 HK$ all in, basic, tasted fine, and plenty of it.





    Then I changed to another MiniHotel, but this time in Central - the room was even smaller, but very well located... Come out of Central, exit D1, go past M&S (picked up some clothes, as there was a sale...), then two minutes up the hill, just by the most expensive bars in HK...





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    Central is kinda like Oxford Street and Bank combined (two London areas) and pretty expensive; I felt poor - a lot of Hooray Henries and Henriettas in that area, I found them a bit irksome. The HK locals were nice.

    I headed to the end of the tube line, only 4 stops, Kennedy Town. I like this area because it has a bit more greenery, is more residential, some nice local style restaurants and reasonably priced. If I were to live in HK, it'd probably be the area I'd choose.



    Decided to get a bit of lunch:







    About 5.5 HK$ in total, tasted really good. I went for a walk around the area:









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    There are some interesting buildings, residential buildings, all over HK.



    This area is also right on the sea with nice views across various different areas/islands of HK:







    Jumped on the underground back to Central. The underground is nice, cool, well designed and easy to use.








    Out of Central exit D1, past M&S then my hotel is just up that hill, 5 mins.

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    Great travel thread Betty, keep it up..

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    OK.... I went for a few hours of walking, all around the Central area, about 1 2km radius - hopefully, this will give you an idea of the area.





    I had planned to go on the Peak Tram upto the top point of HK, but kit was closed. Then I decided to walk it, but it's steep and far, so quickly gave up on that idea!











    Stopped for something to eat, some beef meatballs and some pork ribs in blackbean sauce - the place was packed with old locals. The price was around 4.5 $HK, but I didn't particularly enjoy it, and could only eat half due to the bad flavour, the people crushing me in from every angle and the incredible ugliness of the people sitting opposite me...





    Back on my strolls for a couple more hours; yes it was horribly hot and humid, but I'm on a health kick.

















    I went back to my hotel, had a shower, relaxed then went out in the expensive area (Wyndham Street), found a nice bar/restaurant and spent about 40 quid on a beer and some ribe; the beer was horrible, the ribs were ruined by a terrible sauce, the staff were terrible and the other folks frequenting the place were so up themselves that it was just an unpleasant waste of money... Maybe I was just unlucky, there were many places that looked nice.

    Tomorrow, getting up early to go to Macau...
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    NIce one Bets - been a long time since i was there but i love the place, chaotic, busy but it all works.

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    Top travel thread Betty - good effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Bettyboo View Post
    jinjabang (spelling?)
    I have only been there once and even I know that they are called jimjilbang.

    Don't you do them regular like being a local?

    I went every single day of my 2 weeks in Korea and had seen enough wrinkly strange coloured korean scrotums to last a lifetime by the time I got on the plane to Shanghai.

    I hardly drank anything while I was there as the jimjilbang was more pleasurable of an evening than boozing.

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    Great thread Betty.

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    Interesting cross section of pictures,would love to visit someday.
    Thanks for taking the time to share.

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    HK has many ways to get to Macau; fly (helicopter), coach and ferry are the most popular; Sheung Wan is an underground station that's only one stop from Central, and at the station the ferry companies (there are two: one blue, one red) have their own exit that goes straight to the ticket office - it's very easy. The ticket was about 16 pounds, but I arrived about 11:40, and the next available ferry was 1:35pm... I went through customs (electronic and very easy) then into the departure lounge which has many gates. BTW, I went with the red company (Turboferry) because they go to Taipa Outer Pier which was the closest to my hotel - Macau is basically two islands, the top one, Taipa, has the old Portuguese tourist areas, most of the everyday living areas and many hotels. The lower island is attached by 3 or 4 short bridges have many of the flashier new hotels, the prison, and some beaches and rural areas down south.

    I entered the departure lounge, showed a lady my ticket and she told me to stand on the yellow line which I did with about 5 then 10 then 20 then 40 others...

    It turned that I was in the Q for the 12:15 ferry no-shows, and I got on that ferry, asked for an isle seat, got the front row with loads of space, and 55 minutes later was in Macau. The boat trip was good, but my seat didn't have a window.











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    Reading up about how to get from the pier to a hotel, everyone said just get the free hotel shuttle buses - these are run by the large hotels/hotel chains and have specific routes and times. It was f'kin hot, the Qs were huge, it was very confusing what bus goes where (because they seem to make changes on a whim...), and I had 30 minutes of pissing around that I should have avoided! Also, people say get the local buses; these are very confusing, just give long general street names, so I only pissed around with that nonsense for a few minutes before heading back to the ferry terminal taxi rank and doing what I should have done straight off - get a bloody taxi... The island is small and ares are cheap - cost about 6 pounds to my hotel. I would suggest to folks who come out of the ferry terminal to just get a taxi.

    I got to my hotel around checkin time, but they weren't ready (yes, the cheap hotels have their issues...), so I went for a bit of lunch.

    Standard fare, cost about 7 or 8 pounds including the beer.








    The food was good, then I went to check in.









    The room was three times the size of the HK rooms.

    HK was noticeably louder than HK because of the HK mainlanders and another group who were even noisier, but I won't mention because I don't want to upset our lovely Katie. HK seemed to have a lot of couples and businessfolk from everywhere whereas Macau had large family groups from mainland China and another place which starts with P (these groups were very happy and and friendly, but soooooooo noisy, 24 hours per day).
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    So, to my first trip, across the bridge:









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    &, here we are:











    I won the first race with an each way bet, then lost the rest - due to my crapness in HK, I just did small bets, so made small losses - maybe 10 pounds down over the races, and that includes the taxi getting there...





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    I had a little walk around the area and a bite to eat (apparently, a pork chop in a bun is the local Macau delicacy... Cost about 3 pounds including the coffee) then got a taxi back across the bridge to that big flash looking gold thing - the Grand Lesboa!








    Ahead lies gold...

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    Thanks for sharing Betty. I missed a connecting flight there last year and the airline put me up in the airport hotel.
    Changed quite a bit since my last visit in 1990.
    The Brits obviously stopped spending and let the Chinese pick up the infrastructure tab. It was equally efficient back then, just a bit more chaotic.
    Great travel picture thread.

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    I don't get the casino stuff at all; the fact it was all in Chinese did not help... I didn't understand any of the games, so put 5 pounds in a slot machine. I didn't have lemons or jacks or anything other than Chinese symbols, and sweet fuk all was happening, so after a few minutes of boredom I cashed out (to the tune of 1 pound 40 - the cashier who had just been counting out piles of money for an old Chinese fella did not look impressed...), and decided to walk the 1km or so back to my hotel, going through a little food market in the process where I has a beer, as you do:















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