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China, Korea, Japan, Hong Kong and Macau Travel Forum Touring and Holidaying in China, Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Korea and Macau. Tell us about your travels in these countries, are the Hong Kong Hotels all expensive? Tell us about the tourism in Hong Kong, have you been to a Macau casino? Tell us about Taiwan nightlife or travel in China, do you need a korean translation service to visit Korea? Tell us about it here, also you can share your pictures and youtube videos here aswell.

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Old 12-04-2017, 08:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Touring Taiwan

Hi all, I'm now in Taiwan, in the city of Hualien. It's on the eastern side. It's my annual holiday - I try to travel outside of my country at least once a year. I'll go on a tour of the Taroko Gorge today, but later. It's raining (drizzling) outside and I was lazy to catch the early trips. So I figured that I might as well pass the time by writing/blogging and make use of the fast wifi of this hostel. I'm posting from a phone, so pardon my spelling or grammar mistakes. (Attention: grammar nazis! Heh) I don't know if I'll be able to post pics of this trip, since when I get back home, I'll be very busy and have to attend a training. So this blog will have to suffice for now. After all, it's the fad now on TD. Heh.
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Will you be going to the Taipei night markets?
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It's my second trip to Taiwan. First trip was last year, before the Chinese New Year. In that trip, I only toured around New Taipei city. I stayed with a close friend, so my accoms & some of my meals were taken care of. Friend had work during the day, but she pointed me to some sights and I looked around during the day.

I saw the usual sights - Taipei 101, Longshan Temple (a big old temple), night market near it, Chiang Kai Shek & Sun Yat Sen memorials, the botanical garden, etc. It was interesting to see & observe the Taiwanese people. They are very disciplined and organized. City is very clean. MRT has several lines and public transport systems are very good. I find it similar to Singapore in that way, but not as pricey.

Taiwanese are disciplined and they queue everywhere. Not like the mainlanders who don't queue, or spit, pee & poop anywhere. Maybe it's bcos Taiwan was colonized by Japan for 50 yrs or so (before WW2). After WW2, Japan surrendered, and their forces left Taiwan and
PI. I read some of these info when I toured the CKS & SYS memorials last year. I could've linked to wikipedia for more details, but am on fone & can't be assed. Heh...
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Snubby, I'm not in Taipei anymore. Was in Taipei from Sar to Mon. Am now in Hualien, it's the countryside. But yeah, I went to night markets.
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After my Taipei trip last year, I've often wondered how the PI would be, if we had more years of Japanese rule. PI was under Japan from '42 to 45, so 3 yrs only. Maybe we (as a ppl) would've been more disciplined & organized? In my history lessons, the Jap rule was always portrayed as a horrific era. That there were killings, rapings, etc. That MacArthur and the GIs were saviors. The Spanish rulers were very lax (and that can be seen in many Spanish-colonized countries in the Americas). In culture, PI is more similar to Latin American countries than to their SEA neighbors, who are either Buddhistor Muslim.

As for the Americans, they taught us the language, among other things. Some say it's a bastardized form (as I've read from the Poms here). In my view, English.is English. As long as you can communicate w/ each other, it's fine.

In this hostel, there's a Swiss-German girl, some Brit guys, a Chinese guy. We all speak English with each other. Except for the Brit guys, we are all non-native speakers, so we're not particular w/ what type of English is written or spoke. To the UK-english snobs, ypu can go eff yourselves. Heh.

More later. Tschuss!
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this is boring as hell
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Yeah, what was that sociolinguistic twaddle about? Where's the t 'n a on scooters?

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Heh...Your English is commendable, Katie...

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As for the Americans, they taught us the language, among other things. Some say it's a bastardized form (as I've read from the Poms here). In my view, English.is English. As long as you can communicate w/ each other, it's fine.
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Taiwanese are disciplined and they queue everywhere. Not like the mainlanders who don't queue, or spit, pee & poop anywhere. Maybe it's bcos Taiwan was colonized by Japan for 50 yrs or so (before WW2). After WW2, Japan surrendered, and their forces left Taiwan and
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Good point. I also think the Mao unleashing the Red Guard on institutions like schools created an attitude of "I'll do as I damn well please, because I can!"

Some of the younger mainlanders are rediscovering manners, but the Mao generation is beyond hope
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The problem is those old fogies are babysitting the adults of tomorrow, while their parents slave away. It's a mess of ultimate proportions.

Kate, do enjoy the East coast, with its dramatic mountain falling to sea scenery, and the likability of the locals. If time permits, hit Kending National Park and surrounds.

Public transport is a breeze in Taiwan.
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You can go eff yourself, ya chubby Pom.

I'll do this thread my way, when I have time. This isn't a pic thread (yet). Pics will be downloaded in my laptop, when I get home. For now, this is a "word" thread, similar to my first one abt Myanmar. It will contain thoughts & impressions of the places I'm visiting.

This is a PG-13 thread, not an x-rated one. Lol.
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Random thoughts...

There are different types of Pringles here! There's a seaweed flavor & a braised or roasted chicken flavor. I bought the seaweed one yday & ate it at Taroko Gorge. Bought the chicken flavor today. I had a larf when I saw the Pringles, so I bought it. Coz I can buyy own Pringles & aircon room. Heh.

Here's to you, SP. Thnx for the idea of Pringles!
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Once you go Pringle, you'll never be single.

Looking forward to the thread.

And of course the bikini shot.
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You can go eff yourself, ya chubby Pom.

I'll do this thread my way, when I have time. This isn't a pic thread (yet). Pics will be downloaded in my laptop, when I get home. For now, this is a "word" thread, similar to my first one abt Myanmar. It will contain thoughts & impressions of the places I'm visiting.

This is a PG-13 thread, not an x-rated one. Lol.
that's you told dill.
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Taroko National Park (words from the brochure)

It's famous for its gorge landscapes which feature marble rocks on both sidea of the Liwu River valley from Taroko to Tianxiangalong, the Central Cross-Island Highway. In addition to its historic sites, such as prehistoric relics, ancient tribal relics and ancient &current road systems, the beauty of the pristine Taroko never fails to wow visitors.
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Some thoughts on Taroko:

It's very beautiful. The mountains & cliffs are breathtaking. The mountain air is cool & crisp. Temps were in the low 20s, so was nicely cool. A little drizzle here & there, which made for slippery times in some trails.

I took the 1-day pass tour, which costs 250 NTD. New Taiwan Dollar is slightly higher than the Th baht. When I exchanged usd, 1 usd = 30.31 ntd. Prices of food (street food) - slightly higher than Th prices too. In a mall, a set meal (rice, viand + soup) costs ~150 ntd. A bowl of streetfood noodles costs ~60-80, depending on contents. Prices of hotels/hostels are slightly higher too, but not as high as SG or HK.

For the Taroko tour, you can either get a 1-day (250 ntd) or 2-day (400) ticket. It's a hop on hop off type of bus & there are designated pickup times for each station. Most tour agencies offer a 1-day tour (book from your hotel) for 700 ntd.

If travelling w/ family (esp kids), you could opt to rent a car so that you can go to the sites at your own pace.

If travelling alone, you could hire a motorbike - there are rental shops. The Brit guys in my hostel had a motorbike. The Swiss girl also suggested that if you're confident on a motorbike, it's good to hire one, since there's no entrance fee & you can leave the sites at your own pace.

I suggest to bring snacks & drinks, if on a day tour. There are places to buy food (cafes) but some points don't have. Some of the sites are a bit far from each other too. Lack of food might be a problem if you have to wait for the bus to arrive & kids are hungry. The bus intervals range from 30 min to 1.5 hrs, depending on the station.

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Travelling through Taiwan is fairly easy. Public transport system is very good & efficient. There are 2 kinds of long-distance trains: the HSR (high speed rail) and the ordinary one. I took the ordinary train from Taipei to Hualien. It was around 2 hours. It was nice & comfy, spacious, 4 seats per row, with sufficient legroom. Cabins had a/c, there was.also a footrest below (similar to the train I took in the US). Ticket price: 440 ntd.

Re: weather: Sat, Sun & Mon were very hot days. Temps were in low 30s. I was a bit dispappointed bcos I was expecting it to be cooler than PI. (I wanted it to be cooler, since it's scorchy hot in PI already). Last Mon, since it was sunny, I wore a cotton dress. As I was touring the CKS memorial, it was a bit windy, and I was worried abt a "Marilyn Monroe" moment! Lol

Tues & Wed (today) were cloudy, drizzly days. Temps were in the low 20s.
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