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    Pollution: Directional Avoidance Possible?

    Pollution,

    ( Should do a poll ..) Considering a move to the area.


    Please, any recommendation on areas, in what direction and distance away from where the pollution is


    I understand about causes- geography, fires.

    Thanks

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    You mean ocean currents?

    Do you have a particular area in mind?

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    Middle of no where where they grow rice, not rubber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pol the Pot View Post
    You mean ocean currents?

    Do you have a particular area in mind?
    Yes, an area that is free of pollution. Are there any is the question.

    Are any areas that are no too remote from the city- within an hour, immune from the annual smoke-in?

    Geography= CM being in a valley surrounded by elevation is why it holds pollution

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    Also CM can get cold and the peasants light fires, usually with tyres.

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    I think that would be difficult to find around Chiang Mai. You'd need to be in a place where people don't burn the fields. So maybe outside rice growing areas.

    Finding the right balance between the availability of modern amenities but quiet, un- poluted countryside isn't easy.

    But I'm not in Thailand, maybe a 'local' will chip in.

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    The pollution you get in CM is the same over the whole of the north, and Laos as well

    the forest and field burning that goes on is well away from CM itself, but it drifts down

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    Isaan is a fly tipper's paradise. Uncontrolled chemical spraying of fields. Water table polluted with chemicals and sewage. Monthly burning of rubbish after being thrown out of the windows. I'm sure there's more but I can't be bothered.
    Last edited by superman; 09-09-2010 at 08:21 PM.

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    Believe it or not... Mr Ripley you will have to be The Talented Mr Ripley to find the answers you seek. So, you are considering a move to the area are you?

    Which area exactly? TD covers so many, surely you could be more precise?

    Maybe it would be better to stay at home and make your under-bridge property more to your liking? After all, smoke rises so your Scandinavian Ikea designed one troll-room apartment will be well below any pollutants rising into the air!

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    Antarctica. Careful of the ozone hole, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    The pollution you get in CM is the same over the whole of the north, and Laos as well

    the forest and field burning that goes on is well away from CM itself, but it drifts down

    Ok Thanks for that.. I've since seen a map of the terrain and I can see how large that rift is that the entire area is situated within.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tosilti

    Believe it or not... Mr Ripley you will have to be The Talented Mr Ripley to find the answers you seek. So, you are considering a move to the area are you?

    Which area exactly? TD covers so many, surely you could be more precise?

    Maybe it would be better to stay at home and make your under-bridge property more to your liking? After all, smoke rises so your Scandinavian Ikea designed one troll-room apartment will be well below any pollutants rising into the air!

    Er, I'm seekin info re the Chaing Mai area as this is that forum.

    Wow, what an insult-I can't stand IKEA , prefer antiques of the region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    Isaan is a fly tipper's paradise. Uncontrolled chemical spraying of fields. Water table polluted with chemicals and sewage. Monthly burning of rubbish after being thrown out of the windows. I'm sure there's more but I can't be bothered.
    I wondered what happened to my neighbors cute but untrained and obnoxious almost adult Aleutian. Smelled him last week in the creek behind my house, down stream from the neighbor.

    Trapped in some sticks, about to burst, I gave him a nudge along, I clean up too much of local's trash to fish their bloated kills out.

    Gawd these people are ALIEN

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    I think you will find that you are the alien

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    Which is why I have my Ripley avatar !

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    I htink in honor of 9-11 (the greatest turning of lemons.. PR stunt ever pulled) I'll change it for the day... Lets see..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley
    Gawd these people are ALIEN
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    I think you will find that you are the alien
    if you live in Thailand, that is, this definition is the one to apply

    foreigner: a person who comes from a foreign country; someone who does not owe allegiance to your country

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    I put up some posters looking for my cat and a lady calls and says she saw him 3 days ago. So I head into her neighborhood, lo income but decent block homes and I was quite the display.
    Yes, I know I'm foreigner, aka " Farang " ( white foreigner) but really, when the term is used in a 3rd person in my presence, well not only rude but a display of how Thais really view us- A L I E N .


    I hear this every where I go, " Farang .. FARANG farang.."
    If I remarked , "Black man" or any other racial slang in casual conversation..

    Or used, " Thai" ( Look , A THAI is looking for her cat.. .. ) It would be considered quite rude.

    And when small children utter it as I pass into their view, I know another generation will pass before I could possibly be considered nothing but a fellow human by Thais

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    When Blackgang moved to Udon Thani, he commented on how good the air was here and that it was pretty poor in Petchabun and awful in Chiang Mai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    and awful in Chiang Mai.
    it is, the worst

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley
    And when small children utter it as I pass into their view, I know another generation will pass before I could possibly be considered nothing but a fellow human by Thais
    you will always be a farang, that is your destiny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley
    well not only rude but a display of how Thais really view us- A L I E N .
    I don't sense the Thais are being malicious, just uncomprehending of our discomfort of being labelled.

    BTW, did you find your cat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith
    I don't sense the Thais are being malicious, just uncomprehending of our discomfort of being labelled.
    I think that is right. Most farang (yes, you lot) are not really aware of why Thais refer to farang as farang. It is not meant to be demeaning, it is a convenient label for a foreigner without any rudeness intended

    blame the Thai education system if you want

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    Chiang Mai - live at the top of a high mountain - easy.
    Well, maybe impossible, but it should be relatively pollution free up there.

    On the 'falang' front - it's a bit like being black in the deep south 50 years ago - no point in expecting the general cultural conciousness to change any time soon.

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    Chiang Mai air pollution

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    the air was... awful in Chiang Mai.
    All year round? Or just at certain times?

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    around now it starts getting worse, but it can be quite bad anytime when there is no wind or rain

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