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Old 30-04-2008, 10:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Best farang breakfast in Chiang Mai?

Home-cooked is my preference, but occasionally I like to go out for a good farang breakfast, and my favourite is the Queen Vic's Early Starter for 140B.

Big sausage, two big rashers of back bacon, two fried eggs, baked beans, sauteed potatoes with onions, green peppers and/or mushrooms, fried tomato, big slice of toasted wholewheat bread with Anchor butter and your own pot of Tetley's tea.

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prefer the UN Irish to the Queen vic.

pop in there for a late breakfast every Saturday and Sunday.
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Yeah, the UNI was my choice before someone told me about the QV, but I like the QV's food much better.
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I like the Queen Vic's food but every (and I mean every!) time I've been there the staff have tried to short change me, thieving bastards the lot of them, the food is great but they have the most dishonest staff of any farang pub in CM.
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Really? I've never experienced that there. Can you recommend the Sunday roast lunch?
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what puts me off so badly is the extreme lack of any sort of atmosphere at the Queen Vic.
the bread at the UN is second to none IMO.
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The Rose GH is good value at 99B - You can even chose which nationality you want to be.
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Really? I've never experienced that there. Can you recommend the Sunday roast lunch?
At first I though it was acicdental because most Thai staff can't add 10 and 1 without using a calculator but I noticed that often when they brought the change back they "forgot" to bring the bill back or put it backwards in the folder so the totals can't be seen, I always check now and honestly there hasn't been a single time I haven't been short-changed, I'm talking several hundred baht a time here. I still go because the food is good and the quantities are huge but I always check the change.

The sunday lunch is OK, the meat is good but the spuds are either soggy or rock hard and the gravy is just surreal. Still, that's standard for pub Sunday lunches and its probably the best all-you-can-eat one in CM.
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what puts me off so badly is the extreme lack of any sort of atmosphere at the Queen Vic. the bread at the UN is second to none IMO.
I'm not so concerned about atmosphere at breakfast, but I agree about the UNI's bread.
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The Rose GH is good value at 99B
Haven't tried the Rose, so thanks for the suggestion, Marmy.
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I have had the breakfast at the Bierstube down by Tha pae gate and it is OK and you want to eat in a room full of farang, not as good as I can do at my own stove, but if you can't cook or are to fucking lazy, then anywhere is OK as long as the food will make a turd.
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Two eggs cooked as you want, back bacon, sausage, ham, Beans, fried tomato, two thick slices of Whole wheat, fried potatoes, juice and a tea or coffee. Dunno the price I always order the "Super" breakfast without the beans and three meats (choice of one). They recently bumped their price from 100 baht I think. The American Breakfast is smaller and not really "american" more like a diet plate with eggs.

It is the only place I'll go for breakfast, best breakfast in CM? Frankie's house

I was in teh QV earlier this week, Wanted a breakfast, the photo of the breakfast was unappealing so I decided against it in favor of the Strip Sirloin, 350 gr steak with baked (jacket) potato, onion rings (throw aways) and a small bit of salad, 385 baht. Ordered medium rare, done to perfection; red, but warm inside.

The Rose is OK and you do get two cups of coffee brewed to order. They do decent English and American style breakfasts and they owner (German) has taken the time to understand what each expects in a breakfast. Both are excellent deals the coffee is good, don;t know abot the tea but he's taken thetime to know what makes a decent coffee I'd expect the same for the tea.

The Art Cafe does a denny's-like breakfast that leaves a lot to be desired. I've had in once in a little over five years and ahve never set foot in the place again. The hashed-browns are not pre-boiled so end up a gelatinous mess with crisp outside.

No one in town, since the SF cafe closed about 4 years ago, has a real decent breakfast sausage IMO.

I've never been short changed in QV, But I do believe he has staffing problems. I've never gone and seen the same people woring up front twice. The service is OK but the waitresses never know what's available and when I went in the otehr day half of the good stuff on the menu has been whited out with tape.
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Frankie, what is the difference between an American and English breakfast ?
Other than cereal I'm not a big breakfast eater.

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I guess this should be working, or maybe whoring ?
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I actually saw that before clicking "Submit" thought I'd leave the ambiguous typo for entertainment value

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Frankie, what is the difference between an American and English breakfast
Well from what I can gather Englishmen like to Pig Out bigtime for breakfast.
Eggs - OK American & English
Bacon, sausage, Hams Balck pudding American will have one of these without that freied coagulated blood shit
Fired potatoes Amwerican & English
Fucking BEANS??? You gotta be kiddin me
We like our toast with the butter melting on it when served, the English tend to like a brick hard tab of butter to mangle their toast with.
We like coffee "They" like tea.
Similar enough that one can do with either in a real had pinch. I mean the dogs might eat the fried Blood and the beans can be scraped off the plate and re-served to the next Englishman to order his "Brekkie"
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Mad Dogs Two eggs cooked as you want, back bacon, sausage, ham, Beans, fried tomato, two thick slices of Whole wheat, fried potatoes, juice and a tea or coffee. Dunno the price I always order the "Super" breakfast without the beans and three meats (choice of one). They recently bumped their price from 100 baht I think. The American Breakfast is smaller and not really "american" more like a diet plate with eggs.
Yes, Mad Dog's is pretty good - I forgot about that one.
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The ingredients of a fry-up vary according to region and taste. At its heart, the meal consists of bacon and eggs, but to earn the title of a "full breakfast" a number of other ingredients are expected. The bacon, often called rashers, and eggs are traditionally fried, but grilled bacon, poached eggs, or scrambled eggs may be offered as alternatives. These are accompanied by toast. Some of the additional ingredients that might be offered as part of a Full breakfast include:Due to the increase in popularity of homosexuality over recent years, some proprietors offer vegetarian versions of the Full breakfast, using Quorn or various other substitutes instead of their meat counterparts or simply serving the breakfast without the meat components.

Regional variants


Full English breakfast

In addition to the items already listed, full English breakfasts can include fried leftover mashed potatoes. Originally a way to use up leftover vegetables from the main of the day before, bubble and squeak, shallow-fried leftover vegetables, has become a breakfast feature in its own right. Baked beans and mushrooms are often also served.
A popular variant is the breakfast roll, which is a French bread demi-baguette filled with the contents of a full breakfast. The concept developed as a ready-to-go meal from convenience stores. It was spurred on by the innovation of in-store ovens being used to cook part-baked frozen French bread.
When an English breakfast is ordered to contain everything available, it is often referred to as a "Full Monty", and often attributed to Field Marshal Montgomery, the prominent British military officer of World War II. However the OED states that "Perhaps the most plausible (explanation) is that it is from a colloquial shortening of the name of Montague Maurice Burton (1885-1952), men's tailor, and referred originally to the purchase of a complete three-piece suit".[10]

Full Irish breakfast


An Irish breakfast consisting of sausages, black and white pudding, bacon and fried eggs.


In Ireland, a full breakfast is served with white pudding, soda bread and traditional boxty, although the latter is now often replaced by hash browns. Although baked beans may sometimes be found served with a full breakfast in Ireland, these are considered to be an English addition to the traditional Irish breakfast.
The Full Irish Breakfast is also known as "chub" in certain parts of Ireland. The term "chubbing up" is local Irish slang for eating a Full Irish Breakfast.[citation needed]

Full Scottish breakfast

In Scotland, a square "sliced sausage" in the form of a patty slice, known as a Lorne sausage, white pudding, fried sliced haggis, potato scones and oatcakes might be served.

Full Welsh breakfast

The traditional Welsh breakfast include laverbread, a seaweed purée which is mixed with oatmeal, which is formed into patties and fried in bacon fat, and often cockles.

Ulster fry


A full Ulster Fry in Belfast


An Ulster fry is a dish of fried food that is popular throughout the province of Ulster in Ireland. Some, such as Jack Higgins, claim it as the emblematic dish of Northern Ireland.
A traditional Ulster fry consists of bacon, eggs, sausages (either pork or beef), the farl form of soda bread (the farl split in half crossways to expose the inner bread and then fried with the exposed side down), potato bread and tomatoes.[11] Other common components include mushrooms, wheaten bread or pancakes. All this is traditionally fried up in lard.
Despite, or perhaps because of, the popular comic reference to the dish as a "heart-attack on a plate",[12] many people in Ulster have taken to grilling most of the ingredients, or use healthier alternatives to lard such as sunflower or vegetable oil.
The Ulster Fry is not considered solely a breakfast dish as it is often served for lunch and dinner in households and cafés around the province. Emigrants have also popularised the serving of an Ulster fry outside Northern Ireland.
From 2001-2007, a BBC Two Northern Ireland ident used during opt-outs of the network schedule featured the BBC Two logo of a figure 2 eating Ulster Fry at a table.
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Well from what I can gather Englishmen like to Pig Out bigtime for breakfast. Eggs - OK American & English Bacon, sausage, Hams Balck pudding American will have one of these without that freied coagulated blood shit Fired potatoes Amwerican & English Fucking BEANS??? You gotta be kiddin me We like our toast with the butter melting on it when served, the English tend to like a brick hard tab of butter to mangle their toast with. We like coffee "They" like tea. Similar enough that one can do with either in a real had pinch. I mean the dogs might eat the fried Blood and the beans can be scraped off the plate and re-served to the next Englishman to order his "Brekkie"
I disagree a bit with FF's thoughts on an English breakie, but it is a personal thing. For me...

Fried eggs, thick pork sausage, back bacon, black pudding, mushrooms, baked beans, grilled tomatoes, toast or fried bread (or both ) and maybe bubble & squeak if you must have potatoes. A large pot of Assam tea to wash it down with.

Also, I prefer everything grilled (eggs poached), except the bubble & squeak.
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^OH yeah, forgot. Mad dogs include fried mushrooms with their "english" & "super" breakfasts delicious too
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simply serving the breakfast without the meat components.
lessee, eggs? Nope
bacon sausage, ham, black/white (what is that anyway?) pudding nope
so a breakfast of tomato, mushrooms potatoes & toast?
Waste fo time ain't it?
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Don't knock black pudding
I thoight the Scots had porridge with salt for brekkie?
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black pudding is the king of breakfast food.

I am fortunate enough that the German sausage outlet only a kilometre away from me up in the boonies sell a very good black pudding product.

I have never seen it sold in any of the supermarkets or with any of the brekkies up here.
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When an English breakfast is ordered to contain everything available, it is often referred to as a "Full Monty", and often attributed to Field Marshal Montgomery, the prominent British military officer of World War II. However the OED states that "Perhaps the most plausible (explanation) is that it is from a colloquial shortening of the name of Montague Maurice Burton (1885-1952), men's tailor, and referred originally to the purchase of a complete three-piece suit".[10]

"Full Monty "

Always understood it was a British Army expression.
On discharge a National serviceman ( conscript) was given a "Monty Docket" which allowed them to exchange it at Montague Burton for a 2 piece suit, shirt and tie.
If he had attained the rank of an NCO or had volunteered to do an extra year he got a "Full Monty " - a 3 piece suit , shirt , tie and a pair of civilian shoes!.

Also known as a "Demob suit" - (demobilisation)

My Uncle who was discharged after the war as a sargeant had one !
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