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    'White guys' comment dismays Tiger

    'White guys' comment dismays Tiger
    16/10/2010

    Tiger Airways yesterday hit back at AirAsia, the region's largest low-cost airline, for what it called "racial slurs" about the Singapore-based budget carrier.

    Saying it was "disappointed and surprised" by the comments by AirAsia chief Tony Fernandes, Tiger Airways stated that "resorting to racial slurs is unbecoming and unnecessary."

    Mr Fernandes made a comment about "white guys" running an Asian airline in an interview with the Bangkok Post. He was expressing scepticism about having Westerners running any successful Asia-based business, referring to some Tiger management.

    "Tiger Airways is proud of our employees' contributions regardless of their race or cultural background." the Singapore airline said.

    "Positions are determined by merit alone. In any case, we happen to have a great racial and cultural diversity across our board, management and the rest of the organisation."

    Tiger Airways would continue to compete against all airlines in Asia and Australia, the statement said.

    It said that "together with Thai Airways, we will create a management team that is well qualified to lead Thai Tiger Airways", a proposed new affiliate to be owned 51% by THAI and 49% by Tiger Airways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid

    Mr Fernandes made a comment about "white guys" running an Asian airline in an interview with the Bangkok Post.

    He was expressing scepticism about having Westerners running any successful Asia-based business, referring to some Tiger management.
    Mr Fernandes is also sceptical about having westerners running any successful Asia-based business, referring to some Tiger Airways management.

    "We're Asians, not a bunch of white guys running the airline," he said, explaining that Thai AirAsia was run by Thai management who know the local and Asian markets.

    "This is Asia, Asian brand, Asian culture," added Kathleen Tan, regional head for commercial affairs of AirAsia.

    "Thailand is not easy because it has its own culture and the market is highly competitive," she added.


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    Racism as a business strategy - let's see where it gets them. I think the market will sort that one out

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    White guys run quite a few airlines actually.

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    "white guys" at the bangkokpost.com

    "white guys" site:bangkokpost.com - Google Search

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid

    Mr Fernandes made a comment about "white guys" running an Asian airline in an interview with the Bangkok Post.

    He was expressing scepticism about having Westerners running any successful Asia-based business, referring to some Tiger management.
    Mr Fernandes is also sceptical about having westerners running any successful Asia-based business, referring to some Tiger Airways management.

    "We're Asians, not a bunch of white guys running the airline," he said, explaining that Thai AirAsia was run by Thai management who know the local and Asian markets.

    "This is Asia, Asian brand, Asian culture," added Kathleen Tan, regional head for commercial affairs of AirAsia.

    "Thailand is not easy because it has its own culture and the market is highly competitive," she added.


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    " White guys.." Farangs..... Niggers.... Different word, Same Attitude

    Yeah White guys who'll actually expect you to do a job, well.

    T Land is basically un workable.
    It isn't broken, it just doesn't operates on any respectable level that in any way can compete globally
    If it all goes to shit tough, it might be a good place to hang your hat... I can't decide ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikster View Post
    Racism as a business strategy - let's see where it gets them. I think the market will sort that one out
    doing alright for the Thai's so far.

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    Cathay Pacific was once well known for hiring only Gwailo pilots (farangs). The captain was always a westerner. Not sure if that's still the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripley View Post

    If it all goes to shit tough, it might be a good place to hang your hat... I can't decide ..
    I think we're all waiting to see what happens. Agree with your other comments too. A wild guess is that if all goes to shit 70% of me thinks it would be better to leave, 30% better to stay and wait for opportunities. Foreigners are always an easy scapegoat that's why I'd place more thought on leaving..\
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer
    The captain was always a westerner. Not sure if that's still the case.
    There are some local captains too now, and more in the pipeline. They train their pilots in Adelaide actually- but you've got some years before you make captain.
    Up to the late 90's, CX pilots were the best paid in the world. Quite a few of the A scale pilots were millionaires, especially those that bought HK property.
    Then the company introduced a B scale pay grade, for new hires. The old guys stayed on A scale- obviously some resentment there.
    CX retires it's pilots at 55, so the A scalers are a dying breed now.
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    Ah, Tony F. What a steaming pile of Tamil turds.

    So he's the only one who understands 'Asia'?

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    Yo Tony. Take your curry and shove it. This round eye aint getting on your planes no matter what. I prefer Bangkok Airways, but usually am on TG because of connections and schedules.

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    Tony's a Tamil? Wots he doing complaining about western management then.
    We got them Tamils planting tea alright in Ceylon.

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    Tiger accuses AirAsia chief of 'racial slurs'
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    16-10-2010

    Tiger Airways Friday (October 15) hit back at AirAsia chief Tony Fernandes over his comments on the Singapore-based airline, saying they were racial slurs.

    Fernandes had, in an interview with Bangkok Post, questioned Thai Airways' plan to create a new budget carrier in partnership with Tiger Airways, and said that there should not be "a bunch of white guys" running an Asian airline.

    The Singapore-based budget airlines' group president and chief executive officer is Tony Davis, a British airline veteran. Tiger Airways has also had several other foreigners in senior management posts.

    "We are disappointed and surprised to read reports that the head of AirAsia has passed racial remarks against Tiger Airways," the airline said in a statement. "While we understand that we are intensifying the level of competition with our expansion across Asia, resorting to racial slurs is unbecoming and unnecessary."

    The budget carrier added that it was proud of its employees' contributions, regardless of their race or cultural background, and that positions were determined by merit.

    Asked for his response, Fernandes said he stood by his comments. They were not, he added, meant to be a general statement about all Westerners running Asia-based businesses.

    "I gave my honest opinion. I was just talking about the Westerners in Tiger Airways management who do not know Asia very well," he told The Straits Times.

    He pointed out that there were many Westerners in AirAsia management as well as its long-haul carrier AirAsia X.

    "Tiger has spent the last two years running down AirAsia. But we have had record results. We have not focused on our competitors but on our own business, and we let the results speak for themselves."

    The AirAsia chief's earlier comments had come after he questioned the plan to set up Thai Tiger Airways in a 51-49 joint venture with Singapore-based Tiger Airways - a plan also opposed by the Thai transport ministry.

    A formal joint venture agreement has yet to be signed.

    In the Bangkok Post interview published Friday, Fernandes also took a swing at Tiger Airways' pilot shortage and flight cancellations, and described Tiger as an "odd" choice for a business partner for the Thai flag carrier.

    He had also stressed the "Asian-ness" of AirAsia, comparing Thai AirAsia's local management to that of Tiger and saying: "We are Asians, not a bunch of white guys running the airline."

    The plan to set up Thai Tiger Airways has faced strong opposition from within Thailand as well.

    Industry figures as well as the Thai transport ministry have questioned the need for the budget carrier, noting that Thai Airways already had a stake in Thai budget carrier Nok Air.

    But both Thai Airways chairman Ampon Kittiampon and president Piyasvasti Amranand have maintained that the new joint venture will start operating by March next year.

    The proposed carrier is also said to have some powerful backers, including Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and finance minister Korn Chatikavanij.

    If it does take off, the new Thai Tiger Airways could start with eight routes: One from Phuket to Chiang Mai, and seven from Bangkok to Phuket, Chiang Mai, Kuala Lumpur, Penang, Macau, Chennai and Shenzhen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Wilson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nikster View Post
    Racism as a business strategy - let's see where it gets them. I think the market will sort that one out
    doing alright for the Thai's so far.
    Thais aren't racist. And before all you girls start crying I am not interested in your sob stories. We all know how those have more to do with behaving in some sort of obnoxious way or another than the color of your skin.

    But back on topic: I just don't think somebody leading an airline of all things can succeed with this kind of attitude. I imagine he'll either tone it down quite a bit or be forced to leave. If he was running a coconut farm somewhere out in the middle of nowhere, OK. But an airline? Just my prediction...

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    I think he needs to work on a larger variety of racially abusive words, whits guys just doesn't cut it, I mean we got hundreds of racially abusive words for these slanty eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Tony's a Tamil? Wots he doing complaining about western management then.
    We got them Tamils planting tea alright in Ceylon.
    Could be Malayalam. Certainly from the south.

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    Isn't "Fernandes" a Latin name? Gotta be some white guy genes in there somewhere.

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    Doesn't matter how rich you are Tony, you'll never be white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    White guys run quite a few airlines actually.

    White guys run more than a few successful companies other than airlines around Asia.

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    does'nt it make your blood boil !! , asians can do anything they want in ''the west'' , businesswise or other , but looks like even an airline can't be foreign owned here , any free houses for us farangs Mr Abhesit ? , or what about a state handout ?................. saWAD O' CASH ? soBUY meBEER MAI ? CROP ofCRAP.

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    Tony Fernandes is one of your traditional asian god fathers and has built a empire using political connections to ensure that he does not have too much competition, for many years he had the rather lucrative contract to fly pilgrims from Malaysia to the hajj. With airasia thailand he's got himself teamed up with newin and co.

    Transforming a god father business in to a globally competitive business is not very easy and given Tiger's roots in ryanair in europe; he has every reason to shit him self. This probably explains his little racist slip over the affair; he needs to feed that fragile ego.

    Personally I would be wary using either airline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith View Post
    Isn't "Fernandes" a Latin name? Gotta be some white guy genes in there somewhere.
    Some circles might not consider Iberian cultures to be of the white variety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zygote1 View Post
    Yo Tony. Take your curry and shove it. This round eye aint getting on your planes no matter what. I prefer Bangkok Airways, but usually am on TG because of connections and schedules.
    Me too, but I also prefer Bangkok Airways as the planes seem in better shape and they actually attempt to serve me hot food - unlike THAI that usually pushes some lunch box at me..

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    Goan father, Melaccan Portuguese mother. Also owner of Lotu F1 team, according to Wikipedia.

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