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Old 31-03-2009, 08:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Everything is OK: Industrial Output Cut by 50 %

Local output down almost 50 per cent


By The Nation
Published on March 31, 2009

Local manufacturers have gradually reduced production, which dropped almost 50 per cent in the first two months before exports began collapsing last year.

The Industrial Economics Office yesterday said the Kingdom's Manufacturing Index contracted 23.07 per cent last month on top of 25.6 per cent in January. As a result, capacity use among manufacturers had now been cut almost in half on average.

The global financial crisis has directly affected both exports and manufacturing. Domestic consumption has also fallen, due to the effects of the global crisis.

The auto industry is one of the hardest hit by the economic crisis.

Its production contracted 50.64 per cent last month, against 35.59 per cent in January.

Director-general Arthit Wuthikaro said the drop in auto manufacturing resulted mainly from two reasons: falling car exports and domestic sales; and local consumers waiting to learn the government's policy on reducing excise tax. As a result, auto production dropped to 41.75 per cent of capacity last month.

The decline in auto manufacturing has directly hit small and medium-sized parts manufacturers, due to reduced orders.

In addition, manufacturing in the electric and electronics industry, particularly air-conditioners, dropped 57.62 per cent, against 39.33 per cent in January. However, hard-disk drives and electronics production were on the upswing, growing more last month than in January.

Arthit said manufacturing had contracted for five consecutive months and that this was expected to continue until the third quarter.




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The Industrial Economics Office yesterday said the Kingdom's Manufacturing Index contracted 23.07 per cent last month on top of 25.6 per cent in January. As a result, capacity use among manufacturers had now been cut almost in half on average.
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“All countries have encountered the world crisis, but we have good things to help boost the economy,” senior director Amara Sriphayak said after meeting with an IMF delegation on its annual visit.

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“I am not going to boast by committing how much the economy will grow, but I can assure you that the government is committing to to spur economy and to lift the quality of life of all the Thais.

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Old 31-03-2009, 08:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Good things, eh. Phew.
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Old 31-03-2009, 08:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Interesting on the car side of things. As new car sales have plumetted in UK, it has created a shortae of nearly new, trade in used cars, so prices of used cars are going up.
As i am selling my used Honda before i move to LOS, i spoke to the local Honda main dealer. He said second hand sales were down, but he put half a dozen cars from his forecourt in at auction and got better than the screen price for every one.
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Old 31-03-2009, 08:31 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Our packaging business is booming with a lack of capacity being one of our main problems at this time.

The main problem is a shortage of plastic raw material.

The plastic resin processors closed down most of their refinery subject to a rise in crude oil leading to a drastic shortage which I believe is a criminal act.

Nothing more than holding their long standing and devoted customer's to ransom in my opinion and they should be fined by the governing body here in LOS.

With regard to the fall in exports this phenomenom has been present long before the global economic problems hit these shores.

We can thank the Bank of Thailand and for their macabre support of the Thai Currency.
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The bubble is about to burst.
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With regard to the fall in exports this phenomenom has been present long before the global economic problems hit these shores.
Thai exprts peaked at an all time high in August 2008 and started to fall after that and gradually and in September, October, November they nosedived in line with the rest of region.
Which period are you thinking of?

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The plastic resin processors closed down most of their refinery
Can you not avoid that kind of Thai fcukery by importing your own? Being held to ransome by basic material suppliers at this time seems ridiculous.

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The bubble is about to burst.
I think it burst in November, the numbers in the OP just underline that.

Its an interesting time for the Thai auto industry, if the US companies get bailed out and Obama turns the protectionist screw then imports to the US could diminish. Given that it will be a good couple of years before US demand gets back up to speed that could be a death knell for factories here.

The party is over for Thailand, for at least a few years and possibly beyond, all this has implications to make '97 seem insignificant in comparison to what might happen here IMHO.
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The bubble is about to burst.
I'm still waiting for the THB to crash, a bit at least. When you think it will happen?

What currency should i exchange my THB to now, if i want to make a buck when it goes? Euro hasn't weakened that much since this recession started.
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The bubble is about to burst.
Bring back 1997, what a great time for us with Money in an overseas bank, You could pick up almost new imported cars at half of UK prices, and the Baht was worth fvckall. the streets were empty, partic upcountry.
I remember well driving between Korat and KK in my newly acquired Esprit turbo and barely seeing another car on the road.
A few petrol resellers around the country tried the old pussy sells, strategy to lift sales so they employed a few scantily clad local pretties to entice the punters in.
The combination of hard economic times and an exotic car meant thees girls had their knickers unfastened before they could get my filler cap off.
A meaner man would have taken full advantage of their misfortune.
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Old 01-04-2009, 08:45 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Our packaging business is booming with a lack of capacity being one of our main problems at this time.

The main problem is a shortage of plastic raw material.

The plastic resin processors closed down most of their refinery subject to a rise in crude oil leading to a drastic shortage which I believe is a criminal act.

Nothing more than holding their long standing and devoted customer's to ransom in my opinion and they should be fined by the governing body here in LOS.

With regard to the fall in exports this phenomenom has been present long before the global economic problems hit these shores.

We can thank the Bank of Thailand and for their macabre support of the Thai Currency.
Plastic production, especially HDPE and PVC pellets is the downstream production process of upstream oil refining; aromatics; and olefins production. All of which are only operating at 50% or less in the industrial areas of Thailand.
A lot of these plants are without any orders at all to fulfill, so they are shutting down for major overhauls and some indefinitely, with no start-up date yet proposed.
I don't know if its a criminal act to shut down the process plants, but it certainly seems one to keep propping up the Baht to fukc exporters and the core business of this country until the inevitable happens at great cost to this country and its workers..
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Old 01-04-2009, 11:22 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The bubble is about to burst.

In more way than one
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I am not sure about the bubble bursting per se.
back in 97 the economy contracted 10.5%
current contraction is only 3.5 so we have a bit to go
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Good things, eh. Phew.
It's frightening when the TeakDoor economic discussions are more professional than senior Thai directors
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Thai exprts peaked at an all time high in August 2008 and started to fall after that and gradually and in September, October, November they nosedived in line with the rest of region.
I made the initial mistake (again) about not reading government figures mate.

Being a manufacturer here leads me to take to heart what is actually happening on the shop floor and what is being discussed in the boardrooms.

All I know that the major commodity product manufacturing companies that I deal with have been lamenting about the strength of the baht for well over a year now. They have been gradually losing orders to our regional neighbours and generally because their prices are no longer competitive.

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Can you not avoid that kind of Thai fcukery by importing your own? Being held to ransome by basic material suppliers at this time seems ridiculous.
We have had to order material from Singapore (2,000 ton lots) and to fill our raw material gap and the duties are horrendous. Our company also is trying to work by the "JIT" programe but find it impossible to function anywhere near efficiency and with regard to raw material in>>>>>>>>finished product out.
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well with production shutting down, we might see some prices going up, and a few more profitable businesses when competitors are shutting doors, until the growth cycle begins again
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Wife's friend bought a new Chevy Colorado 2-door this weekend.
She claims the prices have never been so low and they only had to put down 10K for it. Financed it over six years [at] ~8,500 a month.

There is no way they will still have that truck a year from now.
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House prices in the US are down for 19% from Jan 2008

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the duties are horrendous
Import duties often vary with the ability of the import agent to get the best number. Some seem better connected than others. A colleague just imported a waterjet machine from China and his agent got him 1% duty when others quoted the best they could get was 9%. Quite a whack on a 4 million baht purchase. No doubt that process is corrupt to the max.
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Good things, eh. Phew.
Tis that bloody cocktail again. When you want your next visa, you have to provide receipts for at least 5,000 glasses drunk.
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Good things, eh. Phew.
It's frightening when the TeakDoor economic discussions are more professional than senior Thai directors
Frankly Hatters, wouldn't matter where such economic expertise and punditry is derived. As you might know already, this model of study is almost always based upon convention and establishement illusions. "Tis wonder that anyone of us could easily analyze these seemingly complex issues better than than experts. Subjective and biased politics should not mingle with straight-up social science.
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Time to regain our agrarian substantive existence.
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