Thread: Surapong to ask Thaksin to be economics adviser

here's the Nations take on it ............


Surapong seeks Thaksin's blessing to lift capital control
February 28, 2008


Finance Minister Surapong Suebwonglee on Thursday said he would hold a meeting with former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra in order to seek advice on the economy, including the planned lifting of the 30 per cent capital control.

The meeting will take place at a time and place deemed convenient by Thaksin, he said.

"As Thaksin has met with businessmen from around the world, he is seen as one of the most experienced hands about the economy and I want to seek his advice," he said.

nationmultimedia.com

Originally Posted by Mid

this is not an official position

Advising a country on its financial policies sounds pretty official to me.
Maybe I'm just dumb?

^

read again , he's not advising the country .................

Only a trained poacher can be a great game keeper

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Doesn't toxin still have to contest a few cases of stuff like tax evasion and minor things like that?

You think like a white man, kimosabe

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Its a bit like putting a drug smuggler in charge of investigations by customs for drug smugglers, hell, suppose it makes sense in a funny kind of way.

....or like having an infamous troll as the admin of an internet forum

I'm not an admin here. Is Smeg?

Originally Posted by Mid

Dr Surapong added that Mr Thaksin's experiences as a self-made billionaire has made him an economics expert, and that his knowledge would benefit Thailand greatly.

That makes no diff. the new PM is under investigation for corruption for the last 4 years aint he.??

But TOXIN made his start as a Policeman, anybody in any 3 world developing country can also do and have done and continue to do it,

In mexico I rented an 8 bedroom 5 bath, 3 story ranch house with an acre of gardens, orchards and 2 patios with BBQs, a rifle/gun range and an 6,500 watt aux gen .on 90 hectares of land.
And the guy also owned an apt. complex and 2 houses in Ensenada.
OH by the way, he started as a patrolman on the Baja Norte PJE, which is state police and retired well to do as a Capt.

TOXIN did the same thing only in a country with the corruption and grasft equal to Mexico only 12k miles away on the other side of the shining big water.

Without his high police/govt connections he would be shit, and with them I would be worse than him.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Doesn't toxin still have to contest a few cases of stuff like tax evasion and minor things like that?

Are you aware the new Prime Minister of this fine nation has outstanding felony charges against him?

Originally Posted by blackgang

That makes no diff. the new PM is under investigation for corruption for the last 4 years aint he.??

This is what I heard, and TOXIN also, but they just let it hang, then it will be forgotten and no one gets in trouble, cause accused of is not a prison gig.

Don't unnerstand the way it works here.
Be investighted for years and no final decisions if you are a HISO.
But if you are a drug dealer suspect, then someone points a finger and a cop comes over and pops a cap in your ass and end of story..

With 110 of the countries most experienced politicians banned from holding office for 5 years it leaves a distinct shortage of talent in the new line up.
It only makes sense therefore and is in the countries best interest to call on advice from the most experienced economic manager around.

The fact is that Thaksin and the other 109 are barred from holding political office for another four and a half years. And fact is that acting as an economic adviser to the government is not in breach of the law.

The paranoid hysteria displayed by Thaksins opponents is based on Thaksins widespread support by the majority of Thai citizens rather than any points of law.

Thaksin is a symbol of hope and greater equality for the countries poor and conversely, a symbol of potential declining financial status for the countries wealthy elite. The wealthy elite minority class in Thailand rule over the majority poor through wealth, power and influence. The division in wealth in Thailand is huge. Thaksins political ideals (which have been adopted by the PPP) threaten to close that wealth gap and give the majority poor a better deal in life through better education and health care etc.. At the same time, a more equitable and fairer Thai society must have some detrimental effect on the opulent lifestyle of the minority wealthy elite. Much like asking the slave owners to give up slavery in the USA back a century or so ago.

Thaksin is NOT any real political threat to anyone. But his political ideals are a very real threat to the wealthy elite class. The campaign against Thaksin is not based on mere points of law and keeping him out of politics. It is more about the elite trying to destroy the social and political ideals he stands for. THAT, is the underlying agenda behind this debate about Thaksin.

Unfortunately for the elite ruling class, Thaksins social/political ideals have caught on and the call for a more equitable and fair Thai society is increasingly growing among the poor majority. Democracy hasn't helped the elite ruling classes desire to cling onto their excesses of power either. Thaksin embraced democracy and trounced the opposition repeatedly. This trend is bound to continue now for any political party that is prepared to appeal to the needs of the majority of voters.

Thaksin is a figure head for social change and as such is and will remain a target for the ruling elite class. Its much more than simple points of law.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by blackgang

That makes no diff. the new PM is under investigation for corruption for the last 4 years aint he.??

This is what I heard, and TOXIN also, but they just let it hang, then it will be forgotten and no one gets in trouble, cause accused of is not a prison gig.

Don't unnerstand the way it works here.
Be investighted for years and no final decisions if you are a HISO.
But if you are a drug dealer suspect, then someone points a finger and a cop comes over and pops a cap in your ass and end of story..

"Toxin" eheheheh. Its sounds like his real name "Thaksin" Superb! Ta for the large caps, else i'd have missed it !

Originally Posted by blackgang

But TOXIN made his start as a Policeman, anybody in any 3 world developing country can also do and have done and continue to do it,

In mexico I rented an 8 bedroom 5 bath, 3 story ranch house with an acre of gardens, orchards and 2 patios with BBQs, a rifle/gun range and an 6,500 watt aux gen .on 90 hectares of land.
And the guy also owned an apt. complex and 2 houses in Ensenada.
OH by the way, he started as a patrolman on the Baja Norte PJE, which is state police and retired well to do as a Capt.

TOXIN did the same thing only in a country with the corruption and grasft equal to Mexico only 12k miles away on the other side of the shining big water.

Oopsy daisy....another 'Toxin' witticism ! Marvellous.

Two for one ! Wonderful. Twice as nice. I got it the first time, but no harm in repetition.

Originally Posted by Panda

The fact is that Thaksin and the other 109 are barred from holding political office for another four and a half years. And fact is that acting as an economic adviser to the government is not in breach of the law.

So as I understand you Panda, is to let the ones that are under investigation for graft and corruption set in the back out of sight and pull the puppet strings and give the orders and control things, Altho some Like Samak can set in an open chair up front, Correct??
And that already seems to be the way that they have set it up and is operating and going to continue to.
Any your idea of not having a watch/guard dog to sleep in front of the chicken house, then you will have a fox and a wolf guard them, very good plan, for the wolf and fox that is, not worth a fuck for the chickens tho.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Originally Posted by Panda

The fact is that Thaksin and the other 109 are barred from holding political office for another four and a half years. And fact is that acting as an economic adviser to the government is not in breach of the law.

So as I understand you Panda, is to let the ones that are under investigation for graft and corruption set in the back out of sight and pull the puppet strings and give the orders and control things, Altho some Like Samak can set in an open chair up front, Correct??
And that already seems to be the way that they have set it up and is operating and going to continue to.
Any your idea of not having a watch/guard dog to sleep in front of the chicken house, then you will have a fox and a wolf guard them, very good plan, for the wolf and fox that is, not worth a fuck for the chickens tho.

But dogs also harrass farm animals. Especially sheep.

And Thai dogs can eat chicken bones, they are the only dogs in the world who can.

Originally Posted by Panda

Thaksin is NOT any real political threat to anyone. But his political ideals are a very real threat to the wealthy elite class. The campaign against Thaksin is not based on mere points of law and keeping him out of politics. It is more about the elite trying to destroy the social and political ideals he stands for. THAT, is the underlying agenda behind this debate about Thaksin.

The corruption charges Thaksin now faces are just one in the long campaign the wealthy elite, most more corrupt than Thaksin, are using to combat the threat he poses to their economic interests. Their strategy from the beginning was simple. Destroy Thaksin and his party so the status quo of the rich getting richer on the backs of the poor could be maintained. The corruption charges were merely a tactic to achieve this goal. When he didn't resign as they had expected, they followed with plan B, the coup followed by declaring the TRT an illegal political party and disbarment of it's leaders from politics. To administer the coup de grace, a few "minor" constitutional changes were made to ensure a person having Thaksin's popular appeal with the peasants could never again have the power to change the status quo the rich so love.

Mission accomplished. Well almost. An election was needed to put the politicians who support the rich back in charge. But not to worry, with the government being run by a military supporting the elite, Thaksin living in exile and the TRT disbanded how could the party of the rich possibly lose. Oops, despite the best efforts and much to the surprise of the rich boys, they lost again and then in an act of desperation tried to claim the winners cheated (more than the rich party had) and have the election declared null and void. By now even some of the most ardent Thaksin haters began to realize they had been hoodwinked and led down the garden path by the rich power brokers. In the end all that was accomplished by the rich was Thaksin became more popular and Thailand has suffered 18 months of political and economic stagnation.

As Panda states so well, the elite severely underestimated the power of the movement to support, not so much Thaksin, but rather the idea that government is for all the people not just a select few.

Nice to see an intelligent post of some substance here as above, rather than the school yard standard of satire and name calling so prevalent of Thaksins detractors. BTW, I just got banned for one week over on TV for daring to argue with the anti Thaksin crowd there. They really are a bunch of morons over there.
Seems there are a few here too.