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    Nelly, don't want to sound rude, but could you give us an over/under on your budget from, say, 1,000,000 THB? That way the price would still be confidential Looks great mate, love the design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hepcat View Post
    Nelly, don't want to sound rude, but could you give us an over/under on your budget from, say, 1,000,000 THB? That way the price would still be confidential Looks great mate, love the design.
    Hepcat,

    Some of the extras:
    • Additional sockets above two per room - B100 each
    • Upgrade Light Fittings - Just pay the cost of light fitting
    • Foil Insulation to Roof - B15,000 (Did not use)
    • Nails for foil insulation - B7,500 (Did not use)
    • Wood Panelling to Toilet upstairs B12,000
    • Better wood panelling design - B16,200
    • Kitchen Worktop & Cupboards - TBA
    • Anything above B60,000 for bathroom fittings

    There are no savings and if there were, I am sure the builder wouldn't say.

    So far the extras are being kept to a minimum and I hope it stays that way.

    Cheers


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    The roof is finally going on and it is starting to look more like a real house.






    There was a little hic-up last night!.....after the floor screed was laid to take the ground floor tiles, some local dogs decided to take a look at progress. The builder was not amused at the mess they made.
    I thought I'd add a photo taken a couple of weeks ago of the the chief foreman wearing the latest design in Thai safety helmets. Hope I don't get into too much trouble!



    I have decided to ask for another extra. The upstairs walls were scheduled to be hardwood panelling and gysum wallboard internally, but seeing the size of the timber studs, I have suggested they use masonry and plaster for the internal skin. Total extra will be about B15,000, but should make the house 'feel' stronger, reduce noise and maybe better insulation.

    Cheers,

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    but really put some roof insulation in, you will know it is worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    but really put some roof insulation in, you will know it is worth it
    Ditto.

    Sorry if I missed it but are planning drop ceilings?

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    Really starting to look good.

    Just a quick question if I may. I've looked through the thread and piccies but can't see a mention. Do you put the soil pipes and shower / sink drains etc under the flooring and through the rebar at ground floor before the concrete is poured. Or do you finish all the footings and put them in later?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    but really put some roof insulation in, you will know it is worth it
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Ditto. Sorry if I missed it but are planning drop ceilings?
    The original idea was to have foil backed insulation under the tiles but that was quite expensive. Now the plan is to but insulation on top of the suspended ceiling.
    Norton - not sure what you mean by dropped ceiling, but they will be flat gypsum board without recesses.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrBoJangles
    Just a quick question if I may. I've looked through the thread and piccies but can't see a mention. Do you put the soil pipes and shower / sink drains etc under the flooring and through the rebar at ground floor before the concrete is poured. Or do you finish all the footings and put them in later?
    The pipes are built in and go through the ground floor slab. See pic below which was taken before concreting the slab in the ground floor bathroom.



    Cheers

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    Many thanks Nelly. Did you seperate the outlets so the grey water goes into a seperate tank for use on the garden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBoJangles View Post
    Many thanks Nelly. Did you seperate the outlets so the grey water goes into a seperate tank for use on the garden?
    No both go into the same system. The Soi on mains sewer so there is not the problems with a ceptic tank.

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    I have just made a monumental mistake - I went to delete one photo from the album containing all the pics in this thread, but then realised I deleted the whole album!!

    Have asked for technical support to reinstate so hopefully they can help. If not I will try to upload again, but I have no record of which photos were uploaded.

    My apologies to all who have been following the thread.

    Nelly

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    If you right click on the red cross of your pictures in this thread and then on properties it will give you the photo number that you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly
    Now the plan is to but insulation on top of the suspended ceiling. Norton - not sure what you mean by dropped ceiling, but they will be flat gypsum board without recesses.
    Dropped suspended, same, same. Yes putting the insulation on top of the gypsum will be a big help. You'll find 3" and 5" available in Thailand. Depending on brand and thickness, prices range from about 150 baht per sq meter to 250 baht per square meter.

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    ^ How does one put the insulation bats on a suspended ceiling thats already been built? Curious as we'll add bats as one of the ways to try to reduce the heat - not sure if its costs would benefit the house overly. Do you just use a big stick to push them into place??

    Wife is giving me grief complaining how hot it is at the moment.

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    normally you would use the big fat rolls of insulation and just roll them out, but you do need to have an access hole to get in there

    Butterfly learnt how to make one that last year

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    A friend of mine had insulation on the ceiling of his bungalow and his rooms were pretty damn warm. Nothing he did seemed to change matters much even after dusk.

    I suspect that the insulation was preventing the warm air created by the sun on walls and glass windows from being released into the loft space.

    I'm no expert but maybe the insulation would be better sighted under the roof tiles. Having vents installed at either gable end would additionally ensure proper air flow.

    The additonal cost involved may prevent a fair bit of discomfort later in the day.

    Just a suggestion.

    Nice thread by the way Nelly.
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    yup, insulation on ceiling if you use air con.
    that wil keep the cool air in. if not, it will keep the hot air in.

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    insulation everywhere is the best!! and vents all over the place

    most modern houses in the tropics do not seem to be built for the climate, they are just imported versions of Western houses

    when you build, think of the climate..where the sun is (avoid windows on that side, make sure the walls are insulated etc)

    think of hot days, try to get some natural airflow through the house even if there is no wind (convection)

    have good outdoor areas to sit and enjoy the nice days and warm evenings, you really don't need a room like a hotbox with overstuffed sofas (unless you want to watch footie)

    if you want to enjoy fresh air at night, think about mosquito nets for the beds, or expensive screens for all your doors and windows
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    but you do need to have an access hole to get in there

    Butterfly learnt how to make one that last year
    Yep, made sure I had one of those, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    Butterfly learnt how to make one that last year
    Immediately after he fell though the ceiling I'll bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    normally you would use the big fat rolls of insulation and just roll them out, but you do need to have an access hole to get in there

    Butterfly learnt how to make one that last year

    care to elaborate on that?

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    Webmaster fixed my pic mistake so no problem anymore!

    But with all the comments on insulation, I need a bit more clarification.

    The upstairs rooms will not be air-conditioned, they will have ceiling fans. So according to splitlid insulation laid on the gypsum ceiling would keep the heat in. It's therefore logical to omit it in order that the hot air can rise through the ceiling and into the large ventilated roof space.

    As it's too late to place insulation under the tiles, will the heat that is transmitted through the tiles find its way down into the bedrooms or will the ventilation disperse most of it?

    The workers are taking a weeks break for Songran and will return on the 16th April.

    They are not the only ones who will be celebrating Songran as believe it or not, I have a invite to a Songran Party this weekend in Libya! I had no idea there were enough Thais here to have a party. But anyway, it should be fun.




    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly
    The upstairs rooms will not be air-conditioned, they will have ceiling fans.
    No insulation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly
    will the heat that is transmitted through the tiles find its way down into the bedrooms or will the ventilation disperse most of it?
    A bit but the thickness of the concrete and the tiles will insulate some.

    If I understand correctly, the bedrooms will have suspended ceilings so laying the insulation on top the ceiling will provide further insulation.

    No intent to be silly but if you think of an AC space being insulated on top, sides and bottom like a refrigerator then you'll get the best AC efficiency.

    Are the bedroom walls all block and concrete?
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunsetter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    normally you would use the big fat rolls of insulation and just roll them out, but you do need to have an access hole to get in there

    Butterfly learnt how to make one that last year

    care to elaborate on that?
    he did, no joke

    http://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...vice-trap.html (Cutting your ceiling for making a service trap)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    he did, no joke
    Missed it. Just looked. He mastered it in only 63 posts.

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    I wonder whether it is still holding up, or has become a permanent feature

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