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    Progress has slowed during the past couple of days as some of the workers are preparing for the rice planting.

    The roof looks a lot better now, especially from the front. But ootai, I am still not convinced that the back corner where in one direction the span in 4m and in the other its 3m will work if the ridges are the same height. I will just have to wait and see!



    A question about the steel trusses they build in Thailand. Are they strong enough to support flooring - I was thinking of getting a hatch put in so it can be used as an attic.

    The masonry is on rising and window frames are being put in. But small problem with kitchen work-top being too high so it clashes with with window frame. It will be demolished and put in at the correct height today!





    Engineer is off to buy the roof tiles today, but as I write Jan has not decided on the style or size of tile. She has narrowed it down to these two types:



    More updates as the house progresses.

    Cheers

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    Floor Plans

    Thought I'd better show the floor plans of the house.

    It's all in Thai, but on the GROUND FLOOR there is a toilet, kitchen & bathroom. In the lower right there is a carport with an open area in the middle.

    The arrangement has been changed so the kitchen (4m x 4m) in on the left and dining room (5m x 4m) on the right.



    On the FIRST FLOOR there is bathroom, 2 bedrooms and a separate living room (above car-port).

    The only change here is that an extra door is being put into the bathroom from the main bedroom.



    Cheers

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    Nelly, this is good, different enough from the other build threads i have been following. Keep up the progress reports and pics.

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    nelly, you will have to add extra steel into the roof area to make it able to be used as a storage area.
    the steel should have either 400mm or 600mm centres, depending on what material is used for flooring and what you will be storing.
    however, because of the extra weight in steel etc and load you will be placing up there then you footings may not be sufficient to take the extra load.

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    Fantastic stuff Nelly.

    It seems like a quite well planned and engineered project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly
    Jan was saying that they intend to paint them with urethane! Now to me this is the best way to ruin a nice hardwood (Pa-Du). Can anyone tell me the best way to treat hardwood windows and door frames in Thailand.
    the problem with Polyurethane on the exterior is that it has to be coloured, the clear is interior only.

    Teak oil, two coats a day apart is good. I have used it on my doors and windows and it is fine; it may need redoing after a couple of years depending on the exposure, but is easy to apply

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly
    We will have a bigger issue in a few weeks time when the wooden panels are delivered for the first floor as they will also have to be treated. I understood that teak is treated by rubbing oil into it, is that correct or do they use a thin lacquer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat
    It seems like a quite well planned and engineered project.
    I wish!!!

    It started out like that but there are now so many changes from the original plans that mistakes are happening. Moving the upstairs living room by 1m, different style roof, more electrical points, bigger upstairs bathroom, swapping location of kitchen & dining room, stairs are wood not concrete, reducing height of building, changing window & door sizes and the list goes on. All of which are done without changing the drawings.

    So far the builder has been quite good - concrete works done very quickly and to a reasonable standard but as we approach the finishing and technical trades, my fingers are crossed.

    Cheers

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    Today's update:

    The GF masonry is now complete and mostly plastered they have also completed the masonry walls to the first floor bathroom. As the other rooms are made of wood there is no more masonry works so the wet trades and building in of electrical boxes & conduits will be complete by the end of the week.











    Roof is plodding on slowly as there is only one welder and a helper working on it and he says it will take two more weeks to complete. But he has started on the living room roof so we can finally see the overal building.




    The roof tiles were delivered today and as always the case, they are different from the two alternatives I was shown! But I am assured they are very beautiful...I await todays photos.

    I am off to UK later today, so will not be updating progress for a week. But as there is only the roof progressing there will not be much to show.

    Cheers

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    it look ok nice progres

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    Are you happy with that brickwork? The bricks are not being properly staggered. You can see the cracks in the photo showing the electric sockets

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    Nelly, those boxes are crap (just like mine are), if they aren't square now, they won't be square later...get them to redo it...seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly View Post
    The roof tiles were delivered today and as always the case, they are different from the two alternatives I was shown! But I am assured they are very beautiful...I await todays photos.
    I'm not going to bust your balls on this....up to you if you want to accept what you get or what was agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Isee View Post


    Nelly, those boxes are crap (just like mine are), if they aren't square now, they won't be square later...get them to redo it...seriously.
    The covers can be easily adjusted. The problem is the cracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by setaputra View Post
    The covers can be easily adjusted. The problem is the cracks.
    Is that the case with all covers??

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    Quote Originally Posted by setaputra
    The problem is the cracks.
    I think what you are seeing as cracks is where thay have chipped out to put conduit and refilled

    I do not think the backplates they have installed for the electrical boxes is any good - should have given the girlfriend a level to have been continiously checking the work as they do it until they get the message.

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    Yes, I see what you are all saying....

    The cracks are because they have broken out the masonry blocks on the other side to put the conduit. These blocks are not very thick and crack easily. Jan says they are putting on two thick coats of render so maybe they won't appear later.

    To be honest, I didn't notice the sloping box. But after querying it, the builder is confident the cover will be straight...again, we will see later.

    Trouble is there is not a lot I can do from the other side of the world and I have to wait until end April before I can get there.

    As for the roof tiles, they were delivered....all 12,000 of them and they look quite OK





    Good suggestion Baldrick, I have told Jan to buy a spirit level so she can go around checking all the doors, windows, electrical boxes, etc.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly
    to buy a spirit level
    there is a nice little stanley one - only about 250-300mm long

    I have purchased one at carrefour before 300-400baht.

    and she should check both vertical and horizontal as then she will know the install is square

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly View Post

    I am not convinced that a 3 inch block is sufficient for an external wall, especially as it doesnít appear to have any reinforcement.
    Unfortunately it is normal to build it like that. I agree with you that a thicker wall wpuld be much better, not the least for insulation.

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    I had to travel to the UK for 3 days for a bit of family business so thought I would't get chance to update the thread. But then I find myself getting up at 5.30 to speak to Jan about progress and look at the previous days photos. And this is a selection from my inbox.

    Yesterday, Jan paid a visit to the chosen timber supplier to select the wood to be used for the windows.



    She also had the ground floor internal ceramic tiles delivered.



    And the roof appears to have started moving again with the purlins going on.



    This morning I discovered a major misunderstanding...... I asked for the upstairs bathroom to be built of masonry rather than plasterboard, thinking that the timber paneling would be fixed to the outside. But this was interpreted as no panelling to the bathroom walls which would be rendered and painted. So now if we have paneling, it will cost extra.

    The budget was fixed and we really didn't want to exceed it. But to have nice hardwood paneling to the upstairs rooms, except the bathroom could ruin the whole appearance of the house. So what do I do? Convince myself and Jan that it will look OK with rendering or agree to the extra cost..... Later today we will find out how much we're talking about, but 20m2 of hardwood is not going to be just a few hundred baht!

    Thats all for today.

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    Nelly...great stuff, I don't comment too much on the build as my questions or comments are almost always already made by your astute audience, just wanted to say that I'm here watching and appreciate your sharing this project with us all.

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    they are cement blocks and staggered enough; they are only infill

    yes, it would be nice if they were perfect but, hey, it's only a wall

    when rendered you will not see the craxks (for a year or so)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly
    I have told Jan to buy a spirit level so she can go around checking all the doors, windows, electrical boxes,
    she will be out there in the spirit house first thing

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    Let me throw in my compliments for this construction thread. Thanks for all the efforts, Nelly (and Jan), of putting up the info and photos. No easy task. I have nothing to offer on building anything but I'm learning lots. Maybe someday I can return the favour.

    I think there's a wonderful looking house hiding in that framework.

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    Over the past few days, there hasnít been a great deal of physical progress, but it starting to look like a house.

    The first floor framing is in progress waiting to receive the external wood panelling and today I received a photo of tiles stacked on the roof waiting for the tiler to arrive.

    Below are a few of the many photos I have received over the past few days.


















    There are a few items that will be missing from the house, such as insulation under the roof. But this was was left out purely for financial considerations.

    The next set will be with the roof on. I try to post a broad selection of the photos, but if anyone wants a specific item photographed I'll pass the message.

    Cheers,

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    Looks wery nice... Thanks for posting this. I also like 2- storey houses, and particularly this design, but my wife is afraid that she has to carry me up the stairs when I get older, so we go for a similar design, but 1-storey.
    Look forward to see the wood panels mounted.

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