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    looks like fun, good luck

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    When today’s photos arrived I was again surprised at the construction techniques. This time it was a crane hoisting precast planks to the first floor to save all the formwork and propping from below.

    The photos





    The truck was only there for half a day as after lunch they were hauling the planks by hand.




    But they almost completed the whole floor in a day.




    Tomorrow they should be preparing for the first floor columns.


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    looks like there is wery god progres

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly View Post










    The builder (known as “the Engineer”) After weeks of negotiations and discussions on amounts to include for the wood, floor tiles, windows, roof tiles, etc. a price was agreed and a contract signed. Now this really surprised me, as the contract included specifications, a schedule and delay penalties if he is late!
    only a baby yet but the above quote... IMO ..sure holds a solid foundation..that jans build..will be a sucessful one..with the usual humps and bumps along the way i have read recently on the board on another build.. that contracts..specifications and negotiations have been signed in the matter of hrs ...and naturally problems have led to their doorstep..a good game plan is vital ..and it sure appears that you have one in place best of luck

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    You seem to have gotten off to a flying start. They will be pouring that floor before starting on the first floor columns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly
    Ta-Bag, Pa-Du and Ma-Ka
    Mi Daeng (red wood) is another option. A bit on the darkside. Pricey but very good.

    Ma-ka is a good choice if you want a lighter wood. Will likely come from Lao.

    Pa-Du (rose wood). A bit lighter than the red wood but has a nice burl grain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Mia Daeng
    is that like Mia Noi, slightly dark but lovely to look at

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    Mia Noi, slightly dark but lovely to look at
    Just noticed my typo. Yes quite similar but Mia Noi is far more expensive. Also, may be hazardous to your health.

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    good pics, and progressing very well.

    Dare I say it looks like a "proper" building site!

    The threads I looked at before seemed only to have a couple of planks beside the buildings for workers to stand on, this one looks as though it has proper scaffolding etc etc etc. As you said just short of hard hats and work boot!

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    Great stuff Nelly, that design caught my eye when I was looking at the government plans. I'm keen to see how this comes out. Best of luck mate!

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    thanks Nelly for taking the time to put all this up for us to see

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    great thread looks like a great house should be nice and cool weather wise love the photo's.It's amazing what a bit of whiskey and food will do lol

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    Don't forget to check the plumbing for installed "U " bends - seems Thai plumbers tend to throw them away as they don't understand the principle?

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    Its been three weeks since the builders started and today they commenced roof construction.

    Here are a few pics from the last few days.














    More to follow.

    The builder has also bought the timber for the stairs and windows...Jan finally settled on Pa-Du. Hopefully we can get some photos of the joiner making the windows.

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    Well it had to happen….things are not as perfect as I first thought! Progress has been surging ahead and then two days ago I receive the photos of the first roof members being erected. I looked once and all seemed in order then on a second look I realised the roof at the back of the house was at the same height as that at the front. How can this be when the width at the back is 4m and width at front 3m?









    After two days of explaining that the slope on all sides of a roof must be the same the Engineer has accepted the situation and says the situation will be rectified. Today’s photos still show the offending ridge, so I hope they will correct it before they start putting the steel members on the 3m wide part of the roof.





    The other issue I have with the roof is that we originally asked for a curved Thai style roof, but this was not considered suitable as it would make the house to high. We then settled for the two stage roof where there is a steep triangular part of the roof and a shallower overhang part. But looking at the photos, the roof appears to be somewhere between the two styles. Jan has debated this with her father and the Engineers and they are all convinced that what is there will be very beautiful…..I will reserve judgement.


    Masonry work has also started on the ground floor and whilst the workmanship appears to be very good, I am not convinced that a 3 inch block is sufficient for an external wall, especially as it doesn’t appear to have any reinforcement. I also notice the plumbing pipes coming up in the middle of a wall, is this normal?





    I have since been told that they will put two layers of masonry blocks on the toilet wall where the pipes are! I suppose this will at least stop the rain coming in!

    The hard workig labourers have also started slacking on the job.....this little worker has even used the masonry blocks as a lounger!



    Oops sorry she is't a worker, she is the clients neice!

    I can't wait to see how the roof develops...I just hope it turns out OK.

    Another update in a few days when the roof frame is finished.#

    Cheers




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    Great updates and pic's. Looks like things are really moving along quickly too.

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    dont run the pipes in the middle of the wall if it leaks your fked . i had the same trouble ,run them along outer / inner wall and through the wall .. dont look so good but will save you alot of aggro in the furture , plus dont use blue pipe to run hot water through ... good luck ...

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    If you run the pipe up the outside wall, then through the wall, you could render over the outside pipe. Then just dig that part out if needed for repairs without damaging the entire wall.

    This was supposed to be a question, would the render be thick enough to cover the pipe if on the outside wall? Is that a good way to do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly View Post
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    Well it had to happen….things are not as perfect as I first thought!

    The other issue I have with the roof is that we originally asked for a curved Thai style roof, but this was not considered suitable as it would make the house to high. We then settled for the two stage roof where there is a steep triangular part of the roof and a shallower overhang part. But looking at the photos, the roof appears to be somewhere between the two styles. Jan has debated this with her father and the Engineers and they are all convinced that what is there will be very beautiful…..I will reserve judgement.
    Make no doubt about it, they are building it to either the only way they know how to build or its just plain easier (and/or cheaper) for them than the original design. Reserving your judgement = you are going to be stuck with it. Don't think for a second after constructing the roof they will pull it down and rebuild it because you don't like it. Things about roof height being too high is just crap with whatever other crap they told you. The very good question to ask is why wasn't this issue raised during negotiations? No foresight from the Engineer??

    Plumbing pipes are done the usual way I've seen it done. Don't know about putting them on the exterior...maybe practical in an industrial sense if there is a problem, but damn ugly for the type of house (double storey).

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    Treatment of Hardwood Windows

    The window frames were delivered this morning and will be built into the ground floor walls this week.




    Jan was saying that they intend to paint them with urethane! Now to me this is the best way to ruin a nice hardwood (Pa-Du). Can anyone tell me the best way to treat hardwood windows and door frames in Thailand.

    We will have a bigger issue in a few weeks time when the wooden panels are delivered for the first floor as they will also have to be treated. I understood that teak is treated by rubbing oil into it, is that correct or do they use a thin lacquer?

    Thanks for your advice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelly
    Can anyone tell me the best way to treat hardwood windows and door frames in Thailand.
    Not sure it's the "best way" but tung oil gives a nice finish and stands up well to weather. Pricey and takes experience to apply properly. Availability in your area may be a problem. Nawty used some so ask him where he got his..

    http://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...-tung-oil.html (Tung Oil)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Not sure it's the "best way" but tung oil gives a nice finish and stands up well to weather. Pricey and takes experience to apply properly
    Tung Oil easy to apply with brush or cloth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnwadrick
    Tung Oil easy to apply with brush or cloth
    Easy to apply but needs to be done using multiple thin coats.

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    I'm afraid I have to disagree with your argument with the engneer about the roof slope/ pitch and agree with him. From what I can see in the photo what they are building will be fine.
    If he has had plans drawn up on some sort of CAD package then ask him for a 3D rendered version of the roof and it should show. that you can have sections of a roof with different slopes / pitches. Looking at the photo they have offset the point of the roof on the back 4m wide section so the pitch of the front part of this roof will be the same as the 3m wide section. However the back portion with the Thai "curl" will have a lower pitch angle. The resulting joins will not form a straight line when looked at from directly above (who's gonna get a helicopter to have a look?) as they would if the pitch was the same for both sections.
    Just remember we're all right until we prove to ourselves that we're not. Please updating your story as I enjoy watching and reading about the progress, these threads must be my "soapie".

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