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    Sounds good, I like the, "up to 7c cooler" bit. If anyone uses this stuff I'd love to hear what they think of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    You will never experience leaking roofs or moving tiles again and your roof space will be up to 7 C cooler.
    Sounds good
    I think that a roof vent will be essential though.
    The foam will seal the underside of the tiles so you will have no airflow unless you install a vent or two.

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    they advertise that stuff in Europe too

    it is very expensive. Insulating using standard materials works as well and is much cheaper. We have used the foil sheeting, that is excellent stuff. It has a double foil with some padding inside

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    Nice update hillbilly. I have a good idea what your place will look like when it's finished, just waiting to see if I'm right or way off. Did you manage to get a decent smile, on camera, of any of your dilligent workers yet?

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    Go ahead with the foam stuff and let us know if it worth it or not.

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    Fork the ply foam stuff as it's highly flammable after only a few years, what's that company??? Oh yea Cool and Cozy or something like that, it's a paper product with a fire retardant in it (kills any bugs that come in contact but is safe for humans) and the whole thing is sprayed on. Doesn't do the water proofing but does a lot better on keeping the heat out and will last years longer. Your roofer should be doing a proper job to begin with so you shouldn't have leaks.
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    Don’t be too quick on throwing out the baby with the bath water Just know what to ask the dealer
    Combustible organic materials like PU foam can be rendered more resistant to burning through the addition of flame retardants, or, though alterations in their chemical makeup. such enhanced products are capable of passing accredited flammability tests from noted specifying bodies such as ASTM, UL, and DIN. Common examples of tests used to rate flame resistance are ASTM E-84, UL-94, and DIN B2. When a flame retarded material passes a specified flammability test, it is termed a fire rated product. In practical terms, a fire rated product aids in reducing the risk of flashover in a major fire by its diminished role on supporting combustion. However, being organic in nature, fire rated products are still combustible. Even the most flame retarded urethane foam will undergo combustion at temperatures exceeding 550C (1022F).
    Oh and don’t smoke in the attic.

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    My thoughts are still out on the insulating foam. The company will be here next week to give an estimate.

    Meanwhile, the work continues.



    The cement fence will at least keep the dogs out. When I came home, the workers had originally put broken glass on top of the fence. I just shook my head and told them to take it off.

    Think of the word chalk. Forget the ch and just say alk. That basically means take out.


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    The connecting walkway is begining.



    We are getting there. Notice anything wrong with the drain?


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    Of course, the workers need their daily fix of TV.



    Now for the all important electrical work.


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    This Thai worker has 3 children and a wife to take care of. Have to admit, he is a hell of a hard worker with the ability to think. He makes B250 per day.



    A support beam begins to take shape.


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    The electrician continues to plug away at hiding the wires.



    Connecting two homes and trying to achieve the ying-yang affect is not always easy.


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    It's quite a project, very interesting.

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    I did notice that the outlets are only 2 wire, not a wise move, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    Notice anything wrong with the drain?
    Not really, but seeing as it's done by Thais, I'm almost certain that there is something wrong with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    We are getting there. Notice anything wrong with the drain?
    Apart from the tree being in the way of where the pipe needs to go, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator View Post
    I did notice that the outlets are only 2 wire, not a wise move, IMO.
    Thanks for noticing. I pointed this out to the electrician. He then asked me to go and show him. It wasn't there. He had noticed his mistake and corrected it.

    In my experience it is often easy to blame it on the Thai nation instead of an individual. Sometimes the Thai worker realizes his mistake.

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    Nice thread. This is going to be a huge mansion it seems.

    How about hiding the wires, wasn't that a foreign concept to the thai workers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    We are getting there. Notice anything wrong with the drain?
    Apart from the tree being in the way of where the pipe needs to go, no.
    The tree bearing Star-fruit is ok. The problem with the drain is it is above ground level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabian View Post
    How about hiding the wires, wasn't that a foreign concept to the thai workers?
    It most certainly is. To the Thais way of thinking I do have to give some credit. When the wire is exposed and has a problem; it is much easier to fix.

    I still like the wires hidden.

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    The other solution were to do wiring properly without a need to fix.

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    Not were, but "IS" to do the wiring "correctly the first time" is the answer. I had a guy try to hook up my electric stove on 2 wire and when I asked him where the ground was, his answer was, "this is Thai way". I told him, "run a ground wire or fork off", same with my electric water heater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabian View Post
    The other solution were to do wiring properly without a need to fix.

    yeah, you Germans never make a mistake

    he did but corrected it

    sounds good

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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    The problem with the drain is it is above ground level.
    raise the ground to match the walkway then

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    Well the forms are up the the connecting walkway. Now it is time to pour concrete.



    Not exactly hi-tech, but the job does get done. I wonder how many falangs have callouses on their ankles?

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