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    Quote Originally Posted by helge
    Did you consider having a gate with remote- control ?
    Well we have the electric for it and if we decide to go for it, I will get back to you. It's just nice to have a Dogpoo-less garden.


    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly
    ....you're right, I have never seen an doorway arch like yours!
    Hopefully, we will never see another one like it again.


    Quote Originally Posted by BKKBILL
    Now let's get going on the garden.
    Hey cheeky, I'm taking a quick break


    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    bloody hell, 85 days and 150 posts, innumerable pics and an exhausted bloke well done, what a wall
    Thanks very much for all of your kind words Dr. A.

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    Congratulations on the completion of the Great Wall of Loombucket, may it last at least as long as that other Great Wall!

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    but...can you see it from Spicy?

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    Another classic thread by Loombucket! The wall looks great - thanks for your efforts in posting it all!

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    The Money

    Time to end this and move on

    The contract price was 160,000Bht

    This included Labour and tools to build the wall, putting the electrics in, changing the TV arial, fitting one aircon unit in the downstairs bedroom and fitting a TV signal booster in the loft space. At this point, it's not easy to seperate one from t'other.

    The wall run was 174 Metres approx. That's about 3/4 of a Rai. We bought the materials ourselves.

    Posts are 3 M apart. There are Seven Blocks per span wide and Eight blocks high on the non metal walls. That's about as tall as an average Thai person. Three or Four blocks higher on the strengthened wall. In addition, there are Four blocks to each post, to take the post from the pad up to soil level. You can buy single blocks for around 5 Bht. In quantity, the price drops to around 3.5-3.8 Bht. It was cheaper to buy ours from Khorat and have them shipped the 50 odd Km.

    Item Quantity Price Bht

    Blocks. 2,800. 10,700
    Blocks with holes. 80. 2,820
    Rebar. 24,066 We had the square binders pre-made from a local firm
    Stones. One large truck load and a small top up. 6,290
    Cement bags. ? 150 + ?. 17,600 Not exact as someone was stealing (I know who you are BIL from hell)
    Metal gates and fencing. 38,000
    Lamps and cables. 13,000 (From Du Home in Khorat)
    Gate Khaan (beam). 2,000
    Soil Truck loads. 40. 16,000
    Sand still remains a mystery but seems to have been lumped with the cement price.Two truck loads
    Misc items, including numerous tins of 'pipe glue', water pipe, bits of wood, insulating tape, choky blocks (terminan), water pipe right angles, catering classes for the electricians lunches, beer for Electrians, etc, about 4k

    Total cost 294,000 Bht.

    Cost to paint, including labour was 20,000 but the G/f decided to buy a carpet instead

    That is another story. Cheers!

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    Hi Loom
    Thanks for your post and cost break down (luckily not yours).
    Now I look forward to you post about your garden.

    Cheers
    /Archer

    Quote Originally Posted by Loombucket
    Cost to paint, including labour was 20,000 but the G/f decided to buy a carpet instead That is another story. Cheers!
    May I be so bold and suggest that you buy paint and brush and have you G/f paint the wall

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    Great Stuff,
    Did you have a Sq Mtr price for your rendering?
    Why do Thais insist (many sightings) on using Blue conduit (water) when it should be yellow. A very dangerous practice.
    Your thread was well done and has armed me for any future foray I may try.
    Cheers
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    Great Read!

    Very entertaining and educational, thanks.
    Having funded but missing the action on a similar project in the past, I can appreciate what you went through. As commented early on, your patience and comradeship with the crew probably went a long way to ensuring that the job was completed to your satisfaction.

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    Question?

    I know this is an old thread, but it's my only option since I have to few posts to PM the OP.

    I just finished reading this wall thread. Great read and nice tongue-in-cheek style. Thanks OP for taking all the time it took. I know what it takes to post a thread like that.

    I'm tying to puzzle out the footer, column and ground beam construction. If I have this right you dig the footer, make the column metal work, place it in and pour the footer. That's pretty straight forward to me. BTW, did you place spacers under the column rebar to keep the rebar off the ground?

    Then it looks like you place four blocks on the footer and form a square around the column rebar and then pour a smaller square of cement inside these blocks.

    I assume the ground beam is formed and poured on top of these smaller squares.

    If this is right, why the smaller squares on top of the footer? Why not pour the beam directly on top of the larger footer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneday
    I just finished reading this wall thread. Great read and nice tongue-in-cheek style. Thanks OP for taking all the time it took. I know what it takes to post a thread like that.
    Thank you! I think I aged about thirty years, in the time it took to build.



    Quote Originally Posted by oneday
    did you place spacers under the column rebar to keep the rebar off the ground?
    The metalwork sits on top of a contrete pad, so it is well away from the soil. The metal base assembly is then filled in with more concrete.

    Quote Originally Posted by oneday
    why the smaller squares on top of the footer? Why not pour the beam directly on top of the larger footer?
    That is a jolly good question! I believe that the smaller square is the same size as the column and makes it easier to tie in the rebar, for the groundbeam, in the correct place. My Thai 'building language skills' were never anything to show off about, but I have forgotten what they actually told me about this. The old Mrs. Loomb would know, but she is not available for comment! Thanks for your feedback.

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    5555..nice job mate...maybe could have grown a wall in the same time..?

    To be honest I have never understood the thinking behind building an urban style house and garden in a rural or semi rural environment. Seems somewhat incongruous in such picturesque surroundings ......blocking it out with a wall?
    Guess the answer is probably the face and behest of the little women?

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    Thanks Loomie, very entertaining. Interesting interaction between Thai & falang thinking and actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loombucket View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by helge
    Did you consider having a gate with remote- control ?
    Well we have the electric for it and if we decide to go for it, I will get back to you.
    A remote -controlled gate is worth it - especially when it's raining. Make sure the foundation for the track/rollers is rock-solid tho 'cause here in Thailand the earth is continually shifting making it a problem for the electric motor to open/close the gate smoothly if not level.

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    Thanks for your reply "Loombucket"

    Looks like I lucked out and you are still here and monitoring your thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loombucket View Post
    The metalwork sits on top of a contrete pad, so it is well away from the soil. The metal base assembly is then filled in with more concrete.
    In one of your pictures it looks like that bottom footer pad isn't quite dry before they place the metalwork in; yes, no? I have seen this method before in one or two other building threads, but wasn't sure I was seeing correctly. This way there is no way the rebar will be exposed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loombucket View Post
    That is a jolly good question! I believe that the smaller square is the same size as the column and makes it easier to tie in the rebar, for the groundbeam, in the correct place. My Thai 'building language skills' were never anything to show off about, but I have forgotten what they actually told me about this. The old Mrs. Loomb would know, but she is not available for comment! Thanks for your feedback. [IMG]file:///C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\ clip_image001.gif[/IMG]
    I had another question on the smaller square and ground beam relationship, but going back to your pictures on page one I got my answer.

    Correct me if Iím wrong, but most or all of your wall was essentially a retaining wall? If so, then your wall is much stronger than I will need, but the basic construction is there and itís certainly the best documented Iíve ever seen. BTW, if your wall is retaining a lot of dirt from your plot then it certainly explains the size of that footer hole on page #1, post #2, 4th picture down.

    Do you remember about how much of your ground beam was below ground level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneday
    most or all of your wall was essentially a retaining wall?
    Yes! We made a small hill and plonked the house on it. Then we attempted to flatten out the area around it. The retaining wall on the tree side, holds about six feet higher than the land on the other side, at the front. Less on the soi side. I have the original drawings somewhere!
    Quote Originally Posted by oneday
    your wall is much stronger than I will need
    Quite possibly!
    Quote Originally Posted by oneday
    Do you remember about how much of your ground beam was below ground level?
    I remember that the front was cut in, but only to get the level right. The rest was placed on level ground and filled in later.
    Quote Originally Posted by oneday
    the basic construction is there and it’s certainly the best documented I’ve ever seen.
    Thanks very much!

    Oh, and the pad is still wet, when the base plate is put in.
    Last edited by Loombucket; 25-06-2013 at 06:38 AM. Reason: Had to check a few points!

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    Thanks

    Thanks for the prompt reply. I think I now have the jest of all the components for building a block wall in Thailand.

    That's a lot of dirt to retain. When I was reading your thread I was surprised to see a lentil or what we call in America a "header" going into the middle of at least one of your walls, then as I kept reading I realized it was a very tall wall.

    Anyway, hope all is going well with all your construction. Haven't read your house build, but I'll get around to it.

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    i think you mean lintel, lenitil is a bean. great thread,

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgang View Post
    LET'S BUILD A WALL.

    Said by Joe Stalin in 1945 at Berlin Germany

    Let's TEAR THIS WALL DOWN.

    Said by Ron Reagan 1985 in Washington DC.
    I believe Ronald Regan was actually in Berlin when he gave that speech.

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    Sorry but who gives a fuck the last post is 4+ years old and Reagan is well dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Sorry but who gives a fuck the last post is 4+ years old and Reagan is well dead.
    Nice fence

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Sorry but who gives a fuck the last post is 4+ years old and Reagan is well dead.
    Probably the same people who give a fuck about your incessant stalking of pb day after day which seems to be your only reason for posting here these days, so that would be no one. You used to be a nice interesting informative guy, haven't met you myself but people who have speak well of you, yet now you just want to hound some girl who is obviously lonely in Asia away from home teaching in a foreign country. The attitude you display towards her is not one how people I know who've met You describe you.
    Independence day - June 23 for Brits.

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    LET'S BUILD A WALL.

    Said by Joe Stalin in 1945 at Berlin Germany
    Berlin Wall was started in 1961, almost 10 years after Stalin's death...

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    When Mr. Reagan - with his advanced Alzheimer - said the famous sentence, he had to read on his list...




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    ^However, his successor, Mr. Bush sr. has not been much amused (and his friend Iron Lady) when the wall was few years later really torn down...

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