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    Concerning inground drainage, I had my house built on one rai, with the house at the highest point and the ground slightly sloped. I had a wall built around the perimeter and just a concrete gully at the back, sloped toward the corner, where it drained to the creek in back. I had standing water in the front after heavy rain, so 9 months later, they came back and built a sloping gully in the front and side, leading to the drain in back. I don't have any water problems now but it took me 3 weeks to get the yeard back in shape after the worker left. My only other regret was not choosing a type of light right away for the two posts on either side of the sliding gate to the house. They were wired for lights but I waited for 18 months before finding 2 teak lights to but there. The same electrician that wired the house cut the two wires and ran two new wires from the electrical box on the side wall, to the posts. The wires on top of the side wall didn't bother me but having wires on top of the front, finished wall did. I had a couple of inches of concrete added to the top of the front wall to bury the wires.

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    So how much did the wall cost per meter?

    And great thread, thanks.

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    Fook Loomy that coonts stealing a few of my buckets and I am not joking.

    You could of got a clearer picture and for criminal ID.

    Anyway great thread mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    great thread, thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    great thread mate
    Thanks very much.


    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    how much did the wall cost per meter?
    If you can bear with me untill the end, I will do a complete breakdown.

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    Day Fourty

    If things had worked out better, weather wise, this would have been the last day, but hey. It was dark, this morning, when I was dragged kicking and squeaking from my bed. There was a familly burning and I was required to attend. Subsequently, it was a bit late when we got back. The team were just finishing off the remainder of the back wall,



    ...up to the corner.



    Sing had taken his MIL to hospital and Lee was wrestling with the edges that kept dropping off.




    Before he left, Sing had been tarting up the arch, spending a lot of time 'getting it right'. Not the best looking arch that I had ever seen, but you won't find another one like it, anywhere.





    I chuckled to myself, thinking that the metal man would have his work cut out making a gate for it.

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    Day Fourty One

    With his MIL suitably repaired, and ready for another stint of childminding, Sing sets up to edge the step wall outers,




    ...Goon demonstates the art of water application, using his feet as a splash bar, then treading it down safely.




    For the hard to reach places, he takes carefull aim.




    Meanwhile, down the other end, Nuy starts in the corner,





    ...but the pug won't stick because the wall isn't wet enough.




    The water boy soon appears,




    ...and sorts it out.





    The extra earth is causing a few problems, as the guys prefer to stand and work. Unfortunately, there's nothing to be done at this stage. The soil is only available at certain times, miss it and it's another long wait.




    That's Nuy complaining that he keeps getting his nuts caught on the float.





    It's not really funny, and he is soon able to carry on.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Loombucket
    If you can bear with me untill the end, I will do a complete breakdown.
    Perfect, thanks for the effort.

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    fuk me Loom, this set of pics and words should be gathered together and sent out to all builders worldwide

    who needs experts to build a wall! just get a bunch of locals from any village and let them follow the pictures

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    Day Fourty Two

    We have some serious rain in the night, and as you can see, it has hammered the front garden a bit flatter.



    I am prepared for the call to say they are not coming but they duly arrive, junk their shoes and start making a noise about 10.00 ish. Traction is difficult but I follow the rut caused by the barrow wheel, past all the dead roots that came free with the soil,




    ...down to the end and around the corner.




    Lee looks decidedly not ammused, but he has managed one panel already.




    Sing is in no mood to party either.



    Moving around to the stepped wall, the mood is somber. At least they are still working.




    At the back, Lee is giving his holes the most loving care and attention that I have seen so far.




    At this point, unable to raise a smile, even from the joker, I squelch my way back to the house in time to take delivery of another fan, for the guest room. I recognise the delivery person, who speaks a little English. He trots off to have a few Thai words to the workers and all is soon revealed. The Company will not pay up untill the job is complete. The big rumour is that P. & P. are going down the pan and A? is not taking phone calls. Wonderfull!!!

    This last one of 'The Bent Brothers' practicing for a season in panto.



    Then they packed up early, refused a beer and dissapeared leaving me more than a little worried.

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    Day Fourty Three

    The good mood is back and the team carries on like yesterday never happened. We start with a full assault on the remaining inside bits.



    A splash of the old wet stuff,




    ...and some tarting up between those nice edges,



    ...to the derision of some of the older hands.



    Meanwhile, alone on the outside of the wall, Sing is attempting to add some bricks to the bottom of the floor beam, with his phone stuck firmly to his ear, "hello teelac..." he does this for most of the day.



    Later, Lee starts doing a similar thing, but without the phone.




    Back to the fun side, and sporting a Manchester United sweatie shirt, Jet is attempting to tart up Goons tarting up. Scraping the side,



    ...and then the top.



    June is practicing his Dragon impersonation.



    The new pug boy is very quiet but, at least, has the decency to give me a smile before home time.

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    Day Fourty Four

    A? stays to watch today, and is quick to explain that the reason that he was not taking calls was due to ' a herbal preperation' that gave him magic powers in the bedroom and left him utterly knackerd, for three days. He promises to get me some and I seriously think about going for a visa run. Not that I actually need one.



    Sing is adding a few bricks around the top of the gate pillars, to make it look a bit more fancy.




    God is filling in the scaffolding holes on the high wall. Stuff in a brick,




    ...smear a bit of pug over, well away and ready for the top coat.




    A bit more tarting up, at the edge of the original soil heap.




    Back at the front line, Jet is tarting the last of the pillars.





    Up by the road, it doesn't look too bad at all.





    Before he goes, A? says that tomorrow will be the last day and the mood is a very good natured one as Sing treats the team to some pillar tarting lessons,




    ...whilst the others take it easy.



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    Day Fourty Five

    A? arrives early and announces that he is expecting to get paid the remainder, of the contract, before his team leave tonight. My thoughts were something along the lines of;

    'No, our contract is with the parent Company, we will pay them when they have finished every thing. If we pay you, I doubt if the Cowboys will bother to come back. Anyway, you can't finish the wall, the back steps and the drain by the tree, let alone the Khaan under the gate, as agreed, today, as there aren't enough men'.

    This unleashed a torrent of shouting, abuse and all manner of threats, mostly from the g/f who went on for a full 90 minutes. Notice Sing's body language, that gives this away, a bit.



    I felt a bit sorry for A?, as he was only doing what he had been told to.




    In the front garden, the team sat and waited patiently, making a few more clay figures for A? junior.





    Just beyond the wall, out of sight of the boss, there was much ammusement.





    ...and then they were gone. I had to wait several hours, get the bus into town, wait while various shoes were tried on, etc, etc, for the full translation to emerge. A? would drive over to Mr. P's house and get it sorted. We would be 'taking out a paper' on the Company. The Thai equivilent of initiating legal proceedings. Curiously, I was more worried for the welfare of Sing's latest romantic interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loombucket
    ...and then they were gone. I had to wait several hours, get the bus into town, wait while various shoes were tried on, etc, etc, for the full translation to emerge. A? would drive over to Mr. P's house and get it sorted. We would be 'taking out a paper' on the Company. The Thai equivilent of initiating legal proceedings. Curiously, I was more worried for the welfare of Sing's latest romantic interest.
    Forgive me, I'm not quite clear on this..you are "suing" the Company? Has the Company been stiffing A?'s crew? (not paying them?) Is it that the Company has taken your money but not payed the workers? If this is the case case wouldn't A? pursue the Company as well?

    (by the by, I enjoy your building threads...read the house build in one go..fantastic!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunpike
    Is it that the Company has taken your money but not payed the workers?
    In a nutshell, Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by shunpike
    If this is the case case wouldn't A? pursue the Company as well?
    We were given to understand that A? has been having problems, of this nature, for some time. If he pushes too hard, he runs the risk of loosing a lot of work. If he doesn't push hard enough, he could end up loosing his skilled workers. Difficult choice when you have two young kids, a Wife and a farm to think about.

    Quote Originally Posted by shunpike
    read the house build in one go
    That's a lot of reading, glad you liked it.

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    So did we get an idea of the price per meter for the wall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    So did we get an idea of the price per meter for the wall?
    Not quite yet.

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    Okay, I read through your house build thread last night, very interesting but out of my price range for what I want to do next year, I'm looking to try and build something for about B1 million. Only going to be on a half rai of land I think and I want to put a similar wall all the way around, I have no idea how many meters of wall that would be though as I have just started looking in to the building side of things here. I also don't have much of an idea about building so I'm going to try and do as much homework over the next 6 - 12 months as I can. A learning curve of frightening scale for me I'm afraid.


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    Loombucket - I’m still not clear on the suing think. Will you be involved in that or are you covered by making the payment to company. This crap goes on around the world.

    English Noodles - If you are going to fence 1/2 a rai it would be about 120 linear meters give or take.

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    Day Fifty, or thereabouts

    We were taking a few days holliday at SIL 2' place in Korat when we got a garbled call from Sing. There was no power to the water pump?????. We manage to get back in time to catch the team finishing the high wall.




    Crows eye view.




    A? has thrashed out a deal with P. & P.. They will finish the steps to the gate, the drain by the tree and the gate pillar tarting. They will not do the Khaan for the gate, due to the lack of knowledge regarding cables. When P. & P. get the lights up and running, A? will come over and pick up the rest of the money. The only problem is, no one knows when that might be.

    The team then load up the 'van' with everything, including all the sick barrows,




    ...stuff left by the house builder,



    ....and all the metal bits.



    A? checks to see that everything is loaded and promises that Sing, Lee and Goon will be back tomorrow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BKKBILL
    English Noodles - If you are going to fence 1/2 a rai it would be about 120 linear meters give or take.
    Thanks, Bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Okay, I read through your house build thread last night, very interesting but out of my price range for what I want to do next year, I'm looking to try and build something for about B1 million. Only going to be on a half rai of land I think and I want to put a similar wall all the way around, I have no idea how many meters of wall that would be though as I have just started looking in to the building side of things here. I also don't have much of an idea about building so I'm going to try and do as much homework over the next 6 - 12 months as I can. A learning curve of frightening scale for me I'm afraid.

    It may be an idea to get help

    maybe your architect can oversee some of the work, or project manage the whole thing

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    ^I will do.

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    another excellent building thread by loomy

    what is the logic of having walls like this ? is it just for longevity ?

    wouldn't a galvenised fence with a hedge last as long ?

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    Face man ! Face.

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    Day Fifty One

    Lee and Goon make a start on the ground drain by the tree. It took a fair bit of digging,



    ...but they manage a reasonable job after a couple of hours.



    I go around later with a shovel and barrow to collect the good soil. Meanwhile, at the back, Sing has been making some steps, down to the gate. I love his, 'on holliday' shorts.



    Goon mixes the pug out the front and then brings it round in Sing's three wheeler.



    Not long afterwards, the steps are waiting for their last touch-up and the usual brushing. As long as the foundations are ok and the steps don't sink too much, I am happy with the result.



    Just time for a spot of pillar matching. Sing holds his last masterclass in our front garden.



    Then it was time to say goodbye.



    Actually, we all went down the road and got pissed. That is, I got hammered on 4 Lowcows and two Changs, danced with the Headmans maid, fell over a pig and made a right twat of myself. The others were crying with laughter. Later, I was assisted home. Regretably, there are no pictures.

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