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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    I think you would have to agree that there are a lot of slipshod guys out there (including farang), that do not do a satisfactory job and that everyone should make the effort to find out more about the construction company doing the work.
    I quite agree, but you have to remember that is also all over the world, most things are never one hundred percent perfect, and here it doesn't help using such low quality materials.



    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    I'm sure you have a fine crew that you do NOT need to watch over.
    Alas I do have to watch over them, but I don't expect the customer to, I am there to tell my staff what to do, not explain why we are doing things a certain way to the customer.

    I remember one job was to renovate a 40 square meter condo, we had 2 weeks to complete the whole lot, first day I got 15 staff in there, tilers, ceiling people and electricians, we wern't allowed to start until 9am, the customer, who obviously cant speak Thai wanted to know what each person will be doing, I mean don't you think I got more important stuff to do on such a tight time frame than explaining in detail the work each person will be doing.



    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    I am also sure that you are an honest person that would not cut corners to make higher profits.
    No point in cutting corners and using lower grade materials, can't make a decent looking job that way, the A grade materials are hard enough to work with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliminator
    would it be possible to get my own choice of construction company to do the work?
    The place where we are working now is a sub division, the guy I believe had to pay a deposit to the company of 100k baht to be able to use other contractors otherwise his house wouldn't be finished this year.

    For the last 5 years or so I have been really lucky, ie in the fact that the customers don't live here, so at least that way they don't see the mistakes that we have to rectify

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    Well we have had a few days of rain so no one has been working, but today we are back in action, anyway as you can see 99 percent of the wall tiles are now up and we are just about to start on the floor.



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    So there are not any pool builders in Thailand using gunnite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one
    So there are not any pool builders in Thailand using gunnite?
    Not as far as I know of.

    Well as you can see the top has been poured on the resevoir, there is now at this moment some Thai guy inside there finishing the last few tiles, yep we were 13 tiles short, and tomorrow he will have the joy of staying in there allday doing the grouting, would you do that for the princely sum of 250baht perday?

    Anyway once the top has hardened off enough we can chuck some dirt on top of that and it will be part of the lawn with only the access hatch showing.




    How to make your own Dolphins for your swimming pool;
    First up take some 3 mm ply wood to your local artist, get him to paint a dolphin outline on it, cut that out with the old jigsaw, chuck that on the floor of the swimming pool, draw round it, chuck a load of cement all over it, place your dolphin shape on top of that and take away the excess cement with a trowel, you need to give the cement a bit of time to harden so you can get nice edges.



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    i love the dolphin photo. now I know. thanks...

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    I think the drowned Dolphins lying on the bottom are a very tasteful touch.

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    Well as this picture shows we are nearly finished, should start grouting in the next couple of days


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    Well here we have most of the walls grouted.





    Next up is we got to put a nice finish aroung the edge of the swimming pool, this we shall leave until we have finished welding up the roof next to the pool, don't want burn marks on it.



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    Do you get one of your own people to do the sand wash or sub-contract? This is something I've never seen done and have no idea of the steps involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Next up is we got to put a nice finish aroung the edge of the swimming pool, this we shall leave until we have finished welding up the roof next to the pool, don't want burn marks on it.
    Are you going to have a roof over part or all of the pool DD?
    Been thinking I when I build mine, gonna have a partial roof.

    Is your pool going to be fresh or salt-water - don't think I've seen a reference to that so far?

    Cheers...

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    My own staff do the sandwash, actually that should make for some interesting photoes.

    The roof is for over the bbq area and extends out to the pool, well it will do when we build the bloody thing.

    The pool will be fresh water, although I believe now that salt water pools are the most popular here in Pattaya due to less maintenance.

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    Well if it hadn't rained yet again today the pool would have the inside finished, A word of advice here, don't start building a pool during the rainy season, poxy bloody weather...........



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    The rubber strip is called water bar,its used when you have a cold joint (in this case where the wall will join the slab) its normaly used where water can penetrate the concrete,the reason it is used is to stop the water travling through the cold joint.
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    Thanks for this DD. A couple of questions if I may.

    I take that the footing were already in when you took on the job - was more steel used there or is that just a big concrete raft?

    You mentioned a reservoir somewhere in the thread; is that already built or will you be building that later?

    Can you expand on the use of the rubber strip; it isn't clear to me how it stops leaks.

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    DD how much do they charge for m3 of concrete in LOS?

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    1,500 baht to 2,000 baht plus depending on the strength.

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    That is cheap.
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    1,500 baht to 2,000 baht plus depending on the strength.

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    How is the pool coming on DD? Have you done the sandwash surround yet?

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    Just finishing off all the roofs at the moment, mid next week we should be back on the swimming pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog
    Just finishing off all the roofs at the moment, mid next week we should be back on the swimming pool.
    Any progress?

    I've got this bloody great hole in my back garden and I'm waiting for 'step 9'.

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    Onto the sandwash, all this is is cement, sand, little tiny stones and some synthetic yellow iron oxide to give it the color, mix it all together in a big tub and pour it onto your concrete base, give it a quick go over with your renderer and wait for it to harden up a bit before you give it a final rendering off.

    As you can see the swimming pool is now absolutely filthy and they are at this moment cleaning the bloody thing out.




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    Can you get different colours to put in the mix other than the yellow?

    I am sure somebody had mentioned to me using acid as part of the sandwash process.

    I didn't ask them to elaborate but just assumed that acid was used to cut back the top bit of cement and expose the stones more - did I misunderstand?
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    I think they have the 3 primary colors so from those you can make any color you want.

    Here what is normally done once it is nearly dry is to chuck rough sand in a thin layer on top, as people walk on this this brings the stones out a bit more, most places we couldn't use as acid as it would destroy their gardens.

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    Finished at last, now that dont look too shabby does it, you just can't beat haveing your own swimming pool in Thailand.




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    I'll have one of them in my back yard - add it to the list please.

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    Water tank

    Hi DD,

    A little off topic, I am just about ready to start a new build just outside Patty. The problem I have is that there is no town water, several bore holes have been drilled in the area but no water . Should I try another bore hole at the cost of 100,000 baht or go for under ground concrete tanks for deliverd water and collected roof water.
    I look forward to your advice.

    Jumbo

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