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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaphas View Post
    We decided we wanted a traditional house constructed out of teak
    So far so good.

    the BIL said don't worry


    AND IT ALL GOES HORRIBLY WRONG
    Right on cue.

    Good luck with the rest of the construction, Ciaphas, I'm looking forward to seeing it coming along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morden View Post
    It'll work out fine.

    Yes, never employ a family member. A SIL just about wrecked our business when she was left to take care of it. I bit my lip hard and left Mrs M with a few alternatives for solving the problem. I was surprised that she said after a couple of days that she had sacked her sister! I counted myself lucky not to have to force the issue.
    My wife's siblings have been a real nightmare when working in our business, we either sacked them or they run away in the middle of the night after getting paid. Now we won't have anyone else from the village work for us.

    For building it's been a different experience, we've used two uncles because the locals quoted us horrific problems and it was clear they'd rob us every step of the way. The uncles came down on short notice and have been there for a month. They've never asked how much we'd pay them, have been hardworking, taught me a lot and saved us a heaps.

    My Mrs. wouldn't let her dad come down and help us, seems the more direct relations are the most difficult to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaphas
    The floor now taking shape care of the new builders...
    Nice looking wood. Keep the photos coming; even the "artistic" ones!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaphas
    Found New Builder.
    Very happy to hear it. Keep the piccies coming.

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    looks a nice place, but it is hardly traditional!!

    a kitchen, steel roof etc

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    That floor looks great! You may have mentioned this already, but are you using new or recycled wood?

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    Are you still within the original 250K budget Cia?
    The place looks great.

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    Dr A - point taken but it's still more traditional in style compared to the other building threads on this forum so think the header is warranted.

    Qwerty - Unfortunately we brought new wood. We brought the wood for the floor with the BIL and I myself with little knowledge in the building trade thought nothing of it. But when the new builder started one of the first things he said was because we had new wood it would shrink over time leaving gaps in the floor and that we should have brought old wood. Another reason not to employ family members. We decided to carry on with the new wood and just live with it, with the idea of filling the gaps once the wood has settled.

    Sabang - the budget seems to be spiraling out of control at the moment and I now think if we get the build in at around 600k we will be doing well. I think part of the problem was the BIL's guesstimate and me and the wife not doing enough research in the true cost of materials plus not considering the hidden extras.

    Cost so far

    BIL and workers 20K
    New Builder and workers 65K
    Teak beams and floor 92K
    Steel and extras for roof 25K
    Air con unit main bedroom 19K
    More wood 57K
    Roof tiles 32K
    Lights/Plugs/Switches etc 31K
    More stuff (sorry receipt in thai) 6K
    Even more wood 36K
    Stuff 75K
    Something 10K
    Another receipt 5K
    Designer Tiles for bathroom 20K
    Another 5 receipts on my desk for stuff 13K
    Double teak door 12K
    Wooden Window frames 3K
    Breeze blocks for bathroom 3K

    Total 524K

    Sorry I can't be more specific on the receipts for stuff at the time of buying it was all things we needed like nails, flexiboard, paint, termite replant, walls etc

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    Well done Ciaphas, keep sharing the ups and the downs. Costs do have a nasty habbit of going out of controll but it is starting to look good. Best of luck and keep the pictures coming.

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    Things are now coming along nicely bar the spiraling costs.

    This should have gone in the last post



    This is the main support for the floor and as we discovered once the floor boards were laid there isn't enough support beams as in certain places the floor is very bouncy!



    This will be the Veranda in the not too distant future.



    The working hard under the beady eye of the MIL. The area between the two posts will be the main living area and in the top corner is one of the bedrooms.



    More floor, no gaps at the moment but apparently the gaps will be around 2-3mm once the wood has settled.



    The first wall begins this is a side wall with windows for bedroom and living room.



    Front of the house.



    Other side of the house. In my OP I said that we intended to build the house out of teak but after buying the teak for the floor and realising it would blow our budget if the entire house was made out of teak for the walls we decided to use Shera teak texture strip which saved us a great deal of money. It also has the added benefit of not being prone to weathering and termites like wood does, it also saved us money on paint!



    More materials arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaphas
    More stuff (sorry receipt in thai) 6K
    Even more wood 36K
    Stuff 75K
    Something 10K
    These tend to add up....

    Nice looking place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaphas View Post
    Things are now coming along nicely bar the spiraling costs.



    This is the main support for the floor and as we discovered once the floor boards were laid there isn't enough support beams as in certain places the floor is very bouncy!



    Other side of the house. In my OP I said that we intended to build the house out of teak but after buying the teak for the floor and realising it would blow our budget if the entire house was made out of teak for the walls we decided to use Shera teak texture strip which saved us a great deal of money. It also has the added benefit of not being prone to weathering and termites like wood does, it also saved us money on paint!



    More materials arrive.
    sorry about the bouncy floor, I suppose you can support it more somehow?

    as for wood shrinking, even old wood seems to do that. Our floor was old wood from another house and was laid tight without any gaps. Three months later, there were small gaps appearing between the boards. Most of these will get filled with dirt when the floor gets washed though!

    referring to your comment above, what is Shera texture stuff? is that the fibreglass board? I hope it doesn't disappoint you later
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    ^You may get used to the bounce. The house I built on Saipan had a twelve foot floor span. I used blocked 2X12's under 3/4" plywood.

    I didn't get used to the bounce so added concrete piers in the center of each room. (Under the flood, natch!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    referring to your comment above, what is Shera texture stuff? is that the fibreglass board? I hope it doesn't disappoint you later
    I think it's a fibre filled cement wood-alike made by Mahaphant, unfortunately their website seems to be dead right now

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    Shera wood is a joke! Sorta like a cement thin plank to look like wood.

    My BKK home has a fence out of Shera wood. Never again!

    Why?

    Let's pretend that you are throwing empty beer cans at the top of the fence.

    With Shera wood, it is easy to knock off the tops.

    Been there, done that. Trust me on this one...
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    Quote Originally Posted by hillbilly View Post
    With Shera wood, it is easy to knock off the tops.
    Not structural then, I was thinking of using it as cladding 'coz it looks a bit like wood. Do you reckon it's viable if fastened over Q-con block?

    EDIT finally persuaded the website to work MAHAPHANT shera and Ha Huang Non Asbestos and Fiber Cement Manufacturer looks like the stuff is really intended to be used as a decorative cladding, hope it works out for our OP.
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    I used fiber cement board substitute for 1x6 wood siding on the rear wall of an 1845 frame house in Washington, DC, and am happy with it. It comes with an extremely long warranty and is impervious to termites, a big problem there. I tend not to toss beer cans at my walls so that's not a problem. If you expect people to be tossing beer cans at your house, use cinder block.

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    DrAndy - thanks for the advise on the gaps.

    Buad - thanks for the advise on the bounce now thinking about adding a few more concrete posts will see how it goes for a few months living there before I decide.

    Volts - Yes it's the concrete filled stuff and used like cladding, we had a look at a couple of houses in the local area that use it and looks pretty good and apparently lasts a long time.

    Hillbilly - Thanks for the advise. (note to self do not throw beer cans at house)

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    Things have been coming on leaps and bounds since my last post, everything seems to be going well at the moment with no major surprises or upsets



    Inside walls are now starting to go up this will be the main bedroom.



    The bathroom walls starting to go up, all of a sudden it looks too small it's 2m x 2m.



    The main living area.



    The kitchen area and front door.



    Another shot of the living room and main bedroom.



    Better shot of the bathroom when I came to look at progress I discovered they had changed the layout of the bathroom from my design. I wanted the toilet and sink on the right and the shower on the left with the door to the left hand side as well. But after 30 minutes of discussion and lots of mime acting from the builder, I have to concluded the builders positioning of the bathroom furniture far better so well done him.



    Going back a few posts remember the arguments and the BIL walking off the job over the insulation going in the roof. Well now it's going in the walls as it couldn't go in the roof as the roof was too far gone to install it. I can't see it doing much good in the walls but I'm past caring as far as the insulation goes.



    The wiring starting to go in and it seems we have found a good electrician who understood that I wanted each room to be on a separate fuse and has installed an earth from the fusebox. An earth in all the sockets now that's another matter but I'm working on the principle that just having the fuse box earthed should be reasonably safe. If anyone can enlighten me on this I would be great full.



    The main bedroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ciaphas View Post
    The wiring starting to go in and it seems we have found a good electrician who understood that I wanted each room to be on a separate fuse and has installed an earth from the fusebox. An earth in all the sockets now that's another matter but I'm working on the principle that just having the fuse box earthed should be reasonably safe. If anyone can enlighten me on this I would be great full.
    Some equipment, mainly computers, water heaters and white goods requires a grounded outlet for safe operation. Simply bringing the ground to the fuse box will have zero effect upon safety

    I know it's heresy, but take a look at the DIY forum on Thaivisa (at least I can write the name of the forum in a thread without it being censored). For some unknown reason their electrical threads seem better subscribed than here. That said the building threads on TeakDoor are second to none

    House looks great, as you say the bathroom does seem a tad on the miniscule size though, my missus would fill it with creams and soaps etc. wouldn't be room for my razor and smelly

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    Nice pictures Ciaphas. 2M X 2M is a little small for a bathroom, if you only have the one. At least it doesn't have a real bath in it, then you would have problems. If you want a decent earth, you need the third wire from every socket, or it's no bladdy good. Good report, keep it going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by More Volts Igor
    I know it's heresy, but take a look at the DIY forum on Thaivisa
    You can even post a link to relevant threads if you want.

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    This chap seems to have some sensible views on Thai wiring The Thailand Wiring Page
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    Somtamslap asked for some pictures of my house so I thought I might as well finish of this thread at the same time. The rest of the build was pretty quick, with the new team doing a sterling job.



    About a month and a half into build.


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    The bathroom looking good, perfect size for a sh*t, shower and shave in the morning.




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