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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Ahhh AP2... think like a Thai... everything's got to be shiny and new, right!!?
    Not really, aged I like, mold not so keen on, grows too quick in the humidity! can be quite destructive, give that roof a quick wash, beneath the mold it will be nicely aged & a lot nicer to look without all the black crap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maanaam View Post
    Me too. Rustic, weathered, been there 100 years but standing up well... tried and tested through time, but somehow solid and good.
    Yep, Maanaam...even if its been made out of modern materials.

    There are far too many squeaky clean, modern (and a lot of those unsuited to the Thai climate) boxes being built. I appreciate that old or looking old, or traditional is not everyone's cup of tea but it is mine. Maybe I am too old too!!

    I had half a life time living in a modern box in UK and I can honestly say i did not enjoy it. Now that i have an opportunity to build something I want, and in a setting I want - of course I am going to go for it!!

    Traditional look, but of course, I want all the modern day conveniences and building practises too!!

    Hopefully when this home is finished it will be a reasonable attempt at both....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Not really, aged I like, mold not so keen on, grows too quick in the humidity! can be quite destructive, give that roof a quick wash, beneath the mold it will be nicely aged & a lot nicer to look without all the black crap!
    I will keep an eye on its aging process so that nothing is damaged!!

    I want aging and weathering though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    I want aging and weathering though...
    I agree, look at that roof, the black is mold, probably due to no sun getting through, as I said wash the mold off and it would look a lot better. After the rainy season here I spend a good few days cutting back growth & washing "mold" away, it starts to eat the paint and concrete if you leave it, up here in the sticks we have a six month dry season when thankfully it can't grow and the sun kills it off if it can get to it. I have discovered you have cut back fruit trees to let the sun in also or again you get growth that eats away at the tree. Its a balance I'm still working at, if you build a hedge or plant trees to shelter the house, you end up with mold growing as the sun can no longer penetrate to kill it off.
    Just something else to think about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    I agree, look at that roof, the black is mold, probably due to no sun getting through, as I said wash the mold off and it would look a lot better. After the rainy season here I spend a good few days cutting back growth & washing "mold" away, it starts to eat the paint and concrete if you leave it, up here in the sticks we have a six month dry season when thankfully it can't grow and the sun kills it off if it can get to it. I have discovered you have cut back fruit trees to let the sun in also or again you get growth that eats away at the tree. Its a balance I'm still working at, if you build a hedge or plant trees to shelter the house, you end up with mold growing as the sun can no longer penetrate to kill it off.
    Just something else to think about
    We have a plan for tree so, as you say... another thing to keep on the radar!

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    Sorry.. for those stopping by... rain stopped play.

    Its just too dangerous to scramble about on that roof in wet conditions.

    ...will pick up the story as soon as i can!

    cheers all..


    ...in the mean time... here's some photos of the wife practising her pole dancing.

    why do they always have to wear an outtfit one size too small??

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    Damn... I cant make the photo upload work....

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    Thanks to all for the 441 private messages I got , explaining exactly, precisely and in minute detail how to upload photos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    here's some photos of the wife practising her pole dancing.
    Impressive TD.


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    finally! some can see them....

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    passes the time, eh!!?

    normal service will resume shortly

    (i never knew she was so flexible...)




    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Impressive TD.


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    OK... I'm back, the rains seem to have abated and I have got over a massive viral infection which laid me up for 3 days, lost my voice, headache etc etc.

    Only my second time off work in 10 years in the Middle East


    Anyway... let's get some more pictures on the board, starting with some ridge detail....

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    Let's build a roof

    Ridge detail along the way..

    So, with the rains that came to TD towers and the Chonburi Hilton, work got suspended.

    They did some more internal finishing work but the roof work ground to a halt.


    But now the sun is out and so......






















    We can see that the thin metal frame along the ridge was bent down each side and will form the strengthening inside the ridge.

    You can also see just how steep the roof is at the top, and why it would be so dangerous to work on it when wet.

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    Let's build a roof:

    Roof tile finishing



    Here we can see how they got around the roof once they could no longer stand on the battens / purlins because the tiles were already in place. Bamboo ladders to the rescue!

    Also note - that same trick with the rebar strengthening for the concrete that we saw on the ridge is also being used for the concrete butting up to those gable end decorative boards




    The same technique being used over the living room roof



    Tiles on the main roof pretty much finished now, but still need ridge access for the concrete


    Looking more like a home every day...

    Of course we still have all the overhang, secondary roof structures to tile yet.

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    I'm quessing K.Pot has a plan to shed the water where the 2 roofs meet.

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    Fantastic roof shape, not sure that the tile material will weather down much to be honest... it might look very clean and new for some time to come. Still, the alternative would have been individual high-maintenance, brittle, heavy concrete or glazed tiles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis4558 View Post

    I'm guessing K.Pot has a plan to shed the water where the 2 roofs meet.
    Dennis - I bloody well hope so!!!

    Seriously, a LOT of discussion has taken place on site re this, including the government land office engineer (who is overseeing things for us) rejecting K.Pot's first plan.

    Lets see, there is plenty of rain at the moment so any 'system' will be getting the full test and assessment.

    If all else fails we can fit a variant of that 'cricket' thingumy...
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    When completed, I trust that you'll be filling in the vacant spaces with enough furnishings as to not appear to be echoing castle-like structures, yes?

    You have seen these large [usually unnecessarily large] house complexes that are pitifully under furnished and where space is empty and impractical reflective - typically a Thai mindset.....a large home just for the sake of image.

    Nonetheless, upon completion, we should be expecting extended invitations to the drunken blessing tamboon.
    The perfect vehicle for a TD meet-up.

    Best to ya, Dhupp!


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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyenglish View Post
    Fantastic roof shape, not sure that the tile material will weather down much to be honest... it might look very clean and new for some time to come. Still, the alternative would have been individual high-maintenance, brittle, heavy concrete or glazed tiles.
    Thanks for the comment, Jonny... yep - that roof has turned out just like I wanted it, shape-wise. I suppose I should not be surprised 'cos K.Pot is pretty good at reading plans and more importantly...following them!!

    I let SWMBO pick the roof colour - I chose the diamond tile shape, and yes, it is a bit bright 'n' new (that's how they like it of course) - we already had a few , err....'discussions' about painting floor tiles with a high-gloss sealant, including the terracotta tiles under zone 2. (its not happening, BTW!)

    You could be right about weathering , we will have to give it a little time.

    D'you remember back in UK when peeps were building new houses but wanted them to look old... they sprayed a very watered -down solution of yogurt onto surfaces?

    lol not sure I want to go that way but, ... if all else fails....

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    TD all I can say it is impressive.
    One of my concerns is the big pointy "facades" you have on the ends of the rooves/roofs. Are they strong enough to withstand a strong wind without snapping of at the points?
    Are you going to be putting on gutters? Whether you are or aren't I hope you have a good plan to drain the water away.
    Of all the things we did with our build I reckon putting in the gutters and drains were probably the best, that and the concrete path all the way around the house. Even after the largest downpours the water is gone straight away and there is no muddy areas to worry about.
    Anyway good luck going forward and hope it continues as it has so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    When completed, I trust that you'll be filling in the vacant spaces with enough furnishings as to not appear to be echoing castle-like structures, yes?

    You have seen these large [usually unnecessarily large] house complexes that are pitifully under furnished and where space is empty and impractical reflective - typically a Thai mindset.....a large home just for the sake of image.

    Nonetheless, upon completion, we should be expecting extended invitations to the drunken blessing tamboon.
    The perfect vehicle for a TD meet-up.

    Best to ya, Dhupp!


    Greetings HuangLao...

    ...actually, I was going for the austere minimalist look, cos that's about all we can afford after this! lol... i got PJ checking the 'net for furniture designs from pallet wood and orange boxes!

    In fact, we have the essentials already in the BKK apartment - 2 double beds, her complete outdoor kitchen which is extensive, a 46 inch tv and 2 fridges for the beer.

    what else do we need??

    In true Thai tradition, I am currently seeking a collection of mis-matched plastic chairs for under zone 2, plus some hi-gloss log furniture

    Oh.. we already got the stuff for the Buddha room - pack of incense sticks,table and the Great Man himself.

    All the bathrooms will be finished

    I pinched enough towels from 10 years in various hotels that we could probably carpet the whole place.

    shower gel too

    really... your concerns are ill-founded!!!

    No doubt there will be some sort of light celebration with half a cup of warm shandy and PJ's famous som tam and pad-kerpow! yep its got a punch!

    Hopefully I wont finish here in Dubai until there is enough cash after the build to get all the other stuff.. in fact i am definitely not - shes already told me!

    cheeeers!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ootai View Post
    TD all I can say it is impressive.
    One of my concerns is the big pointy "facades" you have on the ends of the rooves/roofs. Are they strong enough to withstand a strong wind without snapping of at the points?
    Are you going to be putting on gutters? Whether you are or aren't I hope you have a good plan to drain the water away.
    Of all the things we did with our build I reckon putting in the gutters and drains were probably the best, that and the concrete path all the way around the house. Even after the largest downpours the water is gone straight away and there is no muddy areas to worry about.
    Anyway good luck going forward and hope it continues as it has so far.
    Thanks for your encouragement, Ootai...


    I am assured those gable end boards will handle the highest winds, again,... lets see.

    They had the first 'securing' to get them into position as seen now, but they will also be built up behind with the mortar ridge and edge detailing, making them even stiffer and supported.

    I have faith!

    Gutters? ...yes. we will fit at the end.

    Not decided if K.Pot will do it or a guttering specialist.

    I want to harvest some of that water, as previously mentioned, so that's another little project for TD towers later in the tale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Gutters
    I would go with uPVC. Perhaps rhe dark brown?

    https://www.vggutter.com/primo-brown-specification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    I would go with uPVC. Perhaps rhe dark brown?
    For house this grand, copper. In a few years you'll have a nice patina going on and they will last a life time or two or three. I've also heard the price of copper has gone down too. My grandfather was a metal smith for the first half of the 20th century and I can still see his work in the town I grew up in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by runker View Post
    For house this grand, copper
    That would be nice. Never thought of it. Gotta be pricey however.

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