Thailands Windows Glass Aluminum and Wood Frames

[dirtydog]

As we have a question about windows I thought it best to get this boring subject over and done with in one thread.

There are at least 3 choices of frames for your windows in Thailand, wood, aluminum and plastic, plastic is the least used and the newest, this is produced here in Thailand and is used for double glazing, wood is the most common and is pretty crap for this climate and involves a lot of maintenance, so lets start with Aluminum.

The aluminum framed windows are made to whatever size the hole is and is charged by the square meter, for doors there is the choice of swing or sliding, swing doors are more expensive as thicker aluminum is used and also a door closer is fitted, the door closer is hidden in the aluminum framework and that by itself costs about 1,500baht.

For a normal house the aluminum comes in 4 colors, alloy color, the normal brown color, white and black, the alloy color is the cheapest and they do differant grades of alloy in this color.

The glass for a house you have a choice of colors and thickness, 5mm or 6 mm is the standard, clear glass is the cheapest, brown glass absorbs heat and makes rooms hot if the sun is on it, also they have reflective green and blue glass, obviously the green and blue are the most expensive but do look pretty classy.

If you are making and fitting the windows yourself the aluminum is sold and charged by the meter, it comes in 6 meter lengths, the glass is charged by the foot, makes it nice and complicated to work out, if you can use a glass cutter you can buy the full size panes and save about 50 percent of your money, glass is pretty easy to cut and if your doing a whole house it is worth learning to do on a few scraps of old glass, the tolerances with aluminum frames is about 15mm, the base inside the frame you just chuck some wood in to raise the glass and protect it from the aluminum.

These sort of windows etc dont really need much upkeep, the wheels on the sliding ones need replacing about every 8 years, and the base plate if it is on a used doorway maybe needs changing every 5 years.

The top 2 pictures are of the base of 2 sliding doors, there are 2 holes on each, the top is to access the fixing point of the wheels, the bottom one is to access the screw to change the height of the wheels.



Here is a normal handle, these need changing every 5 years as they tend to look like this after a while, the locks on these aren't very good and a 3 year old could pick them.



Here you can see where the wheel casing has caused the alloy to corrode, this would cost about 800baht to make good, ie 2 new wheels and a new piece of aluminum, but I cant be bothered, that price includes labour by the way.



Here you can see I have pulled at the felt strip, this is placed in the fixed pane so that the sliding one doesn't grate against it, the fixed panes are just drilled and riveted into place, luckily your curtains hide that mess.

For commercial buildings 10 or 12 mm glass can be used, the profiles and aluminum used is differant to all the pictures posted above and also costs about 3 times as much as the above stuff.

[Spin]

A brand called Windsor sell white upvc single glased windows and doors in Thailand. They look quite nice. You had any experience of them dog?

[dirtydog]

Nope never heard nor seen them.

[dirtydog]

With wooden windows and frames you need the frames before you put the walls up, the frames can be ordered to any size you want.

To fit the frames loads of nails are banged about a third of the way into the outside of the frame, the frame is then concreted into place.

Wooden frames for both windows and doors have problems with termites and damp, the windows themselves and doors I have never seen this problem although it must happen occasionally.

The glass generally used for wooden framed windows is generally 3mm thick, this is not fitted in with putty but a small strip of wood or architrave, being so thin and being able to vibrate with sound it doesn't help much in reducing outside noise levels, if you want to use 5mm or 6mm glass then you need to specify this when they make the windows, 3mm glass only comes as clear glass or sand blasted effect for bathrooms, it is also the cheapest crappiest glass there is.

Wood used to make your frames and windows is your choice, obviously the more exotic woods like teak are more expensive, but regardless wood works out the cheapest way to stick windows in your house.

The most popular hinge type thingy is these.



These are terrible, they make it hard to open the window, they are easy to break so then the poxy window falls out, they bend and deform really easily so it comes to the stage when your windows cannot ever be closed properly, better to use normal hinges and a stay on your windows I reckon.

[corvettelover]

Shit i would love it if those rotten plastic/nylon wheels lasted two years. I know it is time to change them when i have to go out the other door and come round and pick the door up and slide it into the locking position.
Pain and more pain changing the wheels

[WhiteLotusLane]

So, in summary, it's a pretty grim situation?

What if you actually wanted to lock the window/door fairly securely?

[klongmaster]

So DD: in my bedroom up stairs the windows are louvres...Not much good with the AC...I want to change them so that the left and middle ones are only glass and the right hand one can open...it's the only access to the AX outside...

and suggestions?..

[dirtydog]

Cut out the left wooden upright, aluminum frame and one piece of glass there, right area frame in aluminum and stick a swing aluminum window in there.

[klongmaster]

so do you mean I'd end up with two windows instead of three?

[dirtydog]

Yep, it would look much nicer

[corvettelover]

Originally Posted by WhiteLotusLane

So, in summary, it's a pretty grim situation?

What if you actually wanted to lock the window/door fairly securely?

i have a 65 kg german shepherd that watches the lock thing

[dirtydog]

Lets have a look round Mr Thai mans Glass shop.

[dirtydog]

I suppose we might aswell include the exciting subject of Mosquito screens in this thread, okay for wood and aluminum framed windows aluminum mossie screens are used, for upv upv is used.

Wooden window frames a swing mossie screen is generally fitted, these are held on by hinges and the rod will just pull out for taking the screen down for cleaning, well after you take the tiny little bit of rubber tubing off of the bottom of the rod.

Alloy window frames generally have sliding mossie screens, generally you can lift these out by lifting them upwards and then out towards yourself, if not you got to raise the wheels using a posi screw driver and then lift them out.

For aluminum mossie screens at the moment I think they only come in silver and bronze, although I should think soon black and white will be available.

The screens are put together using little 90 degree bends that go into the framework, these are then drilled and a rivet chucked in, the mesh is just held into place by strips of rubber, this picture has strips of rubber already cut underneath the aluminum frame.



Here we have a damaged door sliding one, probably cost 300 baht to replace the bottom piece of aluminum and the mesh netting, reckon on paying 150baht per square meter for your mossie screens made to measure and fitted and you wont be far wrong.

[dirtydog]

Thailands UPVC window frames and double glazing

HEVTA uPVC (Vinyl) Window and Door Systems

Bangkok, Phuket, Pattaya, Chiangmai, Udorn Thailand
HEVTA Factory: 35/183 Moo2, Bang NamJud, Miang, Samutsakorn 74000, Thailand
Tel (66)034-823-378, 034-823-379, 034-824-729, 034-824730 Call Center (66)05-0707-990, 05-0707-991 Fax (66)034-823-371

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HEVTA uPVC (Vinyl) Window and Door Systems


Bangkok vinyl profiles Co., ltd

33 Soi Pradipat 17, Samsennai, Phayathai, Bangkok - Thailand
Tel: 02-615-7591-3, Fax: 02-615-7594
Showroom - Pattaya Branch 245/ 78 Chalermprakiet Road, Pattaya Klang (Road # 3) Chonburi, Thailand 20150 Tel: (038) 489-286, (038) 489-287 Fax038) 489-287
Factory:& Office
5/4 Moo 5, Tambol Baanmai, Amphur Bangyai, Nonthaburi - Thailand
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Bangkok vinyl profiles Co., ltd


Duro Products Co., Ltd.

266 Lat Krabang Industrial Estate, Lamplatiew, Lat Krabang, Bangkok 10520, Thailand
Tel: +66 2 326 0732 Fax: +66 2 326 0734
Our distributor in Chiang Mai covers sales and installations for the north of Thailand and north Isaan.
Duro Products North Co., Ltd.
267/2 Chang Klang Road, Amphoe Muang, Chiang Mai 50000
Tel: 053 282522-3 Fax: 053 282522
Our distributor in Phuket covers sales and installations for south Thailand.
Project Supplies Direct Co., Ltd
111/370 Moo 8, T Paklok, A Thalang, Phuket 83110
Tel: 076 379 729
Contact: Mr Nathan Brown 087 061 7631
Durability – designed to last for your property’s lifetime. Duro products never need painting and will look as good as new for decades.
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Europvc Windows & Doors

157/4 Moo 8, Prattanakan Road, Off Soi 87 Sukhumvit, Nongprue, Banglamung,Chonburi, 20150
Telephone : 038 378302
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The profile is then fabricated here in Thailand to Internationally approved standards. Our break-out and installation techniques are adopted from The UK to ensure the highest standards and ultimately your peace of mind.

Europvc Windows & Doors


PIK-ASS International Ltd., Part.


c/o Michael Pina Chaiyaboot
42/2 Moo 2 (Khor Klang Road), T. Nonghoi, A. Muang, Chiang Mai 50000, Thailand
Mobile: 08-1796-0622
Tel.: 0-5381-6912 Fax.: 0-5381-7416

PIK-ASS International Ltd., Part.


A.R.C Engineering Company

Pfefferl & Bertsch Co., Ltd.
389/114 Moo 6, Sukhumvit Road, Naklua, Banglamung, Chonburi, Thailand 20150
Tel: 038 716 868, Fax: 038 716 869
ARC Window and Door Systems offer customers individual profiles for the fanciest of shapes and country-specific-designs. They offer the ideal solution with regard to function, stability and ease of care, long life and environmental protection. Be it as a window or entrance door, for a new building or for renovation purposes - a ARC profile system feels at home anywhere.

A.R.C Engineering Company


Wintek Windows & Doors Co., Ltd.

42/4 Moo 10 Bangna-Trad Rd., Km.4,
Bangna, Bangkok Thailand 10260
Tel: 662 361 3782-3 Fax: 662 361 3781
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[dirtydog]

These are generally fitted into wooden frames, although this one is an aluminum frame for some unknown reason.



The glass for louvre windows is 5mm thick and 10cms deep, length is up to you but the longer you go the easier it is to accidently break.



The winders are like 60baht a set and last a year or 2 at most, and start at about 80 cms and go up in 10cms increments.



The glass is a real pain to clean so most Thais don't bother doing that, I sorted that problem out with the back of my place by taking all the poxy glass out and just sticking mossie nets and security grills up, looks crap but then again so do dirty windows, couple of times per year we do have problems with the rain blowing in but I can put up with that as it is only hall ways and staircases.



I think the glass is like 20baht per piece, probably less than that so it's a real cheap way to put windows in your house.

[Dougal]

Originally Posted by Spin

A brand called Windsor sell white upvc single glased windows and doors in Thailand. They look quite nice. You had any experience of them dog?

I had uPVC windows and doors fitted by a company here in Hua Hin. They buy the frames from one of the suppliers mentioned in DD's post above, and get the glass cut to size by a local company.

You can either have the door sills flush with the floor or raised. They cut out a lot of noise and of course don't warp or swell when it rains.

At the moment the only colour that is guaranteed uv resistant is white. I am told that there is insufficient demand at the moment for the manufacturer to put the necessary effort into R&D for other colours.

[WhiteLotusLane]

Sorry to bring this one back alive.

Question: As already mentioned, alloy sliding windows typically have sliding mosquito screens in front of them. I have wooden windows that open outward, with hinged mosquito screens that open inward. This is VERY inconvenient to open or close a window, however I DO like the wooden windows because the complete window space opens, unlike sliding windows where one side slides in front or behind the other, so only 50% opens.

Now, is there a way to use sliding mosquito screens with wooden windows that open? (and have the entire window area covered, needless to say?) You'd probably end up with a bit of rail on either side of the window then I suppose.. Or the two halves of screen would slide in front/behind each other just like sliding windows do; that would give you enough access to open the window and secure it in open position with those metal hooks. I'm also open to radically different ideas.. Like roll down like a projector screen or something.

[buad hai]

^There are companies that offer a device that lets you open the swinging wooden windows without opening the screen. Basically it's a hinged rod that goes through the screen frame and attaches to the wooden window frame. You use the rod to push the window open and pull it closed without having to open the screen....

I think I saw a brochure for this at Home Pro, but I'm not positive.

[Marmite the Dog]

Originally Posted by WhiteLotusLane

Now, is there a way to use sliding mosquito screens with wooden windows that open? (and have the entire window area covered, needless to say?) You'd probably end up with a bit of rail on either side of the window then I suppose.. Or the two halves of screen would slide in front/behind each other just like sliding windows do; that would give you enough access to open the window and secure it in open position with those metal hooks. I'm also open to radically different ideas.. Like roll down like a projector screen or something.

Yes. Oceannewline

[WhiteLotusLane]

Thanks!!! There is hope, I shall investigate.