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    Hilarious...he calls for peace a couple o days before and then "suggests" that the war will spread throughout Thailand yesterday.

    What a lying c*nt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by britmaveric
    I'd wager nowt happens to Khun T and he continues his free travel without impediment.
    This.

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    The lying [at][at][at][at] just wants a Putin style arrangement where he can install a puppet and still run/rob the country.

    The best thing anyone could do is double tap the [at][at][at][at].

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon View Post
    Short memory wefearourdespot?
    Yes, he sure does seem to have a memory problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by maraudingscot View Post
    Think Thaskin may be trying to salvage a way back into Thailand. I fear that may be to late as the present government now has the upper hand!
    I await the spin from the likes of TD Red Supporters, insisting how Abhisit has lost this conflict, and that he'll be gone before long.



    Quote Originally Posted by maraudingscot View Post
    The red shirts wanted a new election! so that the populice can decide (mmmm think its called democracy)
    The Red Shirts were offered a new election, but rejected it.

    All they have now are a dead military traitor, plenty of dead supporters, and absolutely NOTHING while they are hoping for a hand out.

    I'm sure deals with the former Red Leaders, for cooperating with the authorities, are already in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    that's right, Thaksin, you just gave money and likely the tactical support to them.
    Yep, all that's needed for a terrorism charge....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    3. Government falsely accused the UDD and protesters of being terrorists and that I am the mastermind of the terrorists. I denied that accusation entirely. I never approve nor agree to any use of violence. I believe in peace. I love my country as much as any member of this government. I believe in peaceful and non-violent means to end conflict and reject any use of force. If there is any act of terrorism, it is the duty of this government to find the wrongdoer and prosecute them in the court of law.
    So that's why you're steering clear then...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    I demand the government to stop all defamation and false accusation. The government should be mindful that these protesters are Thai citizens. Please do not harm them. Please order the cease fire and begin the negotiation with the UDD leaders so there will be no more loss of life.
    Unless by my hands....which are permanently stained from the past yrs...

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    and being a general dickhead
    Not sure whether that's a criminal charge but what the hell I agree with you.

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    Unless I am killing my enemies, which I do with great zeal.
    Touche.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wtf View Post
    A BBC interviewer asked the Thai Ambassador to the US if he thought Thaksin was behind the trouble. He replied "If you asked 100 Thai people that question, 200 would say yes!"

    I assume he was aiming for emphasis.

    I watched an interview of Korn (finance minister) by BBC Asia Today host (don’t know her name) last night. She certainly had an agenda that Korn did an excellent job of deflecting. Her third to last question is do you blame Thaksin for this and Korn responded “absolutely”. She asked why and Korn said because he has made many phone calls where he asked for people demonstrate until he can return, etc, etc. She then asked, “Do you have evidence of these phone calls” in a way that came across as she had Korn trapped with making unsubstantiated charges.

    Korn actually laughed, and said “every Thai knows about them”, leaving her puzzled as obviously her background briefing did not mention the nightly phone-in broadcast on giant screens at the site and on red TV.

    The other interview to watch is the Al-Jazzera interview of Thaksin's new PR lawyer, that interviewer was very prepared and truly nailed him. There is a link on here somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick View Post
    I suspect the UDD leaders may be offered a 'deal' to reveal all they know about the man and his involvement in funding the protests.
    Do they get to keep the money that Thaksin has paid them? Or does that go into army coffers.

    Perhaps Thaksin has thought this through, and won't pay them if they tell tales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thaihome
    The other interview to watch is the Al-Jazzera interview of Thaksin's new PR lawyer, that interviewer was very prepared and truly nailed him. There is a link on here somewhere. TH
    Here you go;


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    ^ Why was Thaksin's lawyer meeting with the Red Shirt leaders several days before this interview? All the while Thaksin claims he was not supporting them at all?

    Yet, his lawyer never categorically denies Thaksin funds the Red Shirts, and tries to weasel out of having to give a straight answer. The blonde reporter is doing an awesome job nailing this guy.

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    Quite the piece of work:

    Robert Amsterdam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    He has fraudulently claimed to be a member of the New York Bar Association. Source: (Borba Online - Who Really Is Robert Amsterdam?) (Q-magazine)
    ... worries on Amsterdam's "radical line of defense" based on the systematic denunciation of the political aspects of the Khodorkovsky's trial, forgetting at some points to respond formally to the charges he is indicted for.
    2Bangkok.com - Thaksin's new lobbyist Robert Amsterdam

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    Quote Originally Posted by maraudingscot
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    The Red Shirts were offered a new election, but rejected it.
    Nope, the gov attempted to trick them into leaving the stronghold with a false promise, but they were smart enough to smell the rat and rejected it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon
    Short memory wefearourdespot? I'm not gonna go through all the ins and outs of why Taksin was disposed, but I think the army had a good enough reason to stage a coup and let the square face dude run off with his billions of tax free baht that he aquired from the sale of a certain ShinCorp company to the Singaporeans.
    My memory is far from short, and even more importantly, is not defective like yours.
    The military did not let square face run off , but staged the coup while he was off country. Thaksin did not run off with his billions, as the military successfully froze 73 billion baht in various Thai bank accounts. Also all Shinawatra Corp shareholders (Crown Boureau included) enjoyed a tax free capital gain when the company was sold at a terrific price to Temasek, yet according to the Thai Revenue Office Thaksin was the only one who should have paid taxes over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon
    The Money he made off that would have fed, clothed, housed, educated and provided a few farmers with a million cattle to the Issan crew that he loves so much.
    just imagine what could have been done with an amount 18 times bigger than that (hint for retards: 2 billion $ multiplied 18 = 36 billion $)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick View Post
    I suspect the UDD leaders may be offered a 'deal' to reveal all they know about the man and his involvement in funding the protests.
    The Ghost of the Moog-

    Do they get to keep the money that Thaksin has paid them? Or does that go into army coffers.

    Perhaps Thaksin has thought this through, and won't pay them if they tell tales.[/quote]


    Interesting question, the leaders allegedly have bought houses and cars already with the cash Thaksin forwarded, which may have been destined for other uses, such as weapons (not everyones cup of tea, so maybe the leaders decided on a less violent encounter) Hopefully we will all learn a wee bit more in the next few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    the leaders allegedly have bought houses and cars already with the cash Thaksin forwarded,
    and just where does this gem come from ?

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    Thaksin: Thailand Must Observe Rights of Arrested Protest Leaders


    The following is the most recent official statement issued by Thaksin.

    Statement by Former Prime Minister of Thailand Thaksin Shinawatra
    May 20, 2010

    Today the Kingdom of Thailand is in mourning. I join all Thai patriots in their immediate call for calm, order, and non-violence, and fully condemn the actions of those who acted with opportunism and impunity to cause reckless damage in Bangkok, which is completely alien to the cause of the protest movement.

    It is a dark day for Thailand's battered democracy. More than 67 Thai citizens, including some soldiers and foreign journalists, have lost their lives since April 10 as a result of state violence and human rights abuses, and this is an appalling and unacceptable reality for the government to face before international law.

    There are immediate concerns for our communities to address following the May 19, 2010 violence in Bangkok. We must get past the anger and outrage to begin a new political dialogue that is fair and equal before the law for all Thai citizens.

    There are questions about my relationship with the Red Shirt movement, and many untrue accusations. I will continue to morally support the heroic effort of the UDD and their leaders to seek democracy and justice for Thailand.

    Thai citizens must defend the independence of our judiciary, and ensure that due process and rule of law are strictly observed in the government's treatment of arrested UDD leaders. There should be no more show trials, and no more political prisoners. The fact that the government has attempted to use the term "terrorism" against those who disagree with its policies raises significant concerns of political persecution.

    I resolutely reject all allegations with regard to any illegal or violent activities in the Kingdom of Thailand, and underscore the fact that this heroic and inspiring grassroots movement is completely autonomous and independent from myself. Let me state this clearly: the struggle of the red shirts is a struggle for the democratic rights of the citizens.

    I am fully responsible for only one aspect of the crisis: years ago I led these excluded people to believe that they could exercise their constitutional rights of citizens, that their votes mattered, and that they were equal to Bangkok elites to participate in our blessed democracy. Right now this assumption that all Thais can vote and that all Thais can be represented is under assault, and I must sincerely apologize to everyone who made this leap of faith.

    I ask all those participating on all sides to take a step back, consider the possibility of political solutions, and not to fall victim to the provocations from those who benefit from Thailand falling into lawlessness.

    I am optimistic for the future of Thailand. We are a good people, proud, successful, tolerant, and deserving of a respected status in the region. But the damage caused to our reputation by our current leadership will take some time to repair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post


    It is a dark day for Thailand's battered democracy. More than 67 Thai citizens, including some soldiers and foreign journalists, have lost their lives since April 10 as a result of state violence and human rights abuses, and this is an appalling and unacceptable reality for the government to face before international law.
    Again, to place some context. On October 25, 2004, 85 deaths resulted in a single day under his premiership (at Tak Bai).

    The man is shameless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wefearourdespot
    My memory is far from short, and even more importantly, is not defective like yours. The military did not let square face run off , but staged the coup while he was off country. Thaksin did not run off with his billions, as the military successfully froze 73 billion baht in various Thai bank accounts. Also all Shinawatra Corp shareholders (Crown Boureau included) enjoyed a tax free capital gain when the company was sold at a terrific price to Temasek, yet according to the Thai Revenue Office Thaksin was the only one who should have paid taxes over it.
    1 - Thaksin and his cronies withdrew what they could carry and left the country carrying billions in cash and gold in suitcases.
    2 - The square faced dude changed the law on capital gains just (days) before the sale to Temasek to enrich himself and others.
    3 - What has been frozen is just moderate percenatge of all the other crooked deals he had/has going on with family members (Illegal land ownership, Swampy etc etc).
    4 - Does Ample Rich ring any bells??????

    As I said in my post earlier. We are not gonna agree and can see this turning into a bitch slapping contest.
    For the sake of the thread can you just "red" me, shake hands and agree to disagree?
    Would be a nice debate down the pub with a pint, but not over a keyboard.
    Trying to keep it friendly this end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon
    2 - The square faced dude changed the law on capital gains just (days) before the sale to Temasek to enrich himself and others.
    But who the hell told you such bullshit ? I have been investing on the Thai Stock Exchange since 2003 , and capital gains on quoted stocks were already tax exempt since then (Shin was sold to Temasek in 2005)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon
    4 - Does Ample Rich ring any bells??????
    and does the fact no law was issued afterwards to close that loop ring any bells too ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogon
    1 - Thaksin and his cronies withdrew what they could carry and left the country carrying billions in cash and gold in suitcases.
    How could this happen ? Thaksin was off country when the coup was staged , and did not come back until 2008 , when all his bank accounts were frozen.
    Besides, you can't take out more than 500,000 baht in cash, and scanners can easily detect cash wads in suitcases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post


    It is a dark day for Thailand's battered democracy. More than 67 Thai citizens, including some soldiers and foreign journalists, have lost their lives since April 10 as a result of state violence and human rights abuses, and this is an appalling and unacceptable reality for the government to face before international law.
    Again, to place some context. On October 25, 2004, 85 deaths resulted in a single day under his premiership (at Tak Bai).

    The man is shameless.
    A despicable event for sure, yet I wonder why Thaksin was charged for such an insignificant thing like selling land to his wife instead of something serious like killing 85 people. Might it be because the real responsibility for those deaths lies a lot higher than him ?

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    ^ Think you seem to forget that he was PM until the coup was officially announced.
    I am sure that he could take as much as he could carry to a "friendly" country.
    Anyways fucktard, looks like the gloves are off and by looking at the green handed out, you are misinformed. Where's my red? Run out giving to other posters?????
    Here is the start of the "facts" and I will follow up once this thread is put into the MKP! (because you will not back down and shake hands, have some pride dude and walk away before you make a bigger fool of yourself backing Thaksin 'till the death).
    Why ruin an intersting and informative thread?
    Been playing the Thai markets since 2003??? What you doing? Playing penny shares making 2k (baht) a day?
    Thaksin took billions out of the country. He was still PM when he left and could move about unquestionable amounts of cash. How did he aquire Man City F.C? Did he empty the satangs from his jar next to his bed????
    Thaksin seems to be getting on very well with his ex-wife??? Why did they divorce by the way?
    How could Thaksins daughter be one of the biggest shareholders in Thailand? (think his maid and driver was not far from the top 10 of holders aswell!).
    Any guys wanna google "Thaksin Tamasak sale illegal" and have a laugh at wefearourdespot???
    It's guys like you that make people flounce.
    Read below prick.

    The court decided unanimously that Thaksin and his ex-wife Potjaman na Pombejra were the real owners of 1.4 billion or 48 per cent of the Shin Corp shares that were sold to Temasek Holdings while Thaksin was still prime minister, even though they said they had sold them to their son Panthongtae, eldest daughter Pinthongta and other relatives before Thaksin ran in the 2001 election.
    Political office holders and their spouses are not allowed to hold more than 5 per cent of shares in a company which has a state concession.
    The court also decided by majority vote on the following points that Thaksin had abused his authority while holding the office of prime minister for the benefit of Shin Corp:
    - The conversion of concession fees into excise tax by virtue of an executive decree issued by the Thaksin administration which enabled mobile phone operators to deduct their concession fees from the excise tax to be paid by them was beneficial to Advance Information Service (AIS) and had caused the state to suffer 60 billion baht in lost revenue. The increase of the excise tax to the range of 20-50 per cent made it impossible for the new players to compete with Shin Corp's AIS..
    - The change of the mobile phone contract regarding the prepaid card service between AIS and TOT Corporation under which AIS was obliged to share 20 per cent of revenue earned from prepaid card service to TOT, instead of a progressive rate of sharing from 20 to 30 per cent, benefitted AIS.


    Man, there's a million pages more of this shite covering all sorts of his activities if you want them?


    Why not go out and fill some M150 bottles with your mates and burn something retard.
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