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    Now which would have been less expensive, holding elections or rebuilding Thailand's infrastructure

    Every voter should ask themself this question.


    Very good question.


    Hear hear.

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    RT [at]tulsathit: Sansern: snipers blocking efforts to put out CTW fire.



    So the military are trying to stop them putting out the fire. WTF would the do that?

    I think now we know who was shooting at SD, journalists etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKKBoet
    So the military are trying to stop them putting out the fire. WTF would the do that?
    It's either snipers on the same side as the people who started the fire or just a load of twitter bollox.

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    I'd go with Twitter bollocks after what i have seen / heard the last few days....

    At least when TFP posts i know it's 100% shite.......

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    Hey!! I've only had 2 drinks!

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    Just found this for anyone still up..

    WARNING SOME IMAGES ARE QUITE DISTURBING IF YOU DON'T LIKE SEEING DEAD PEOPLE!!!

    Crackdown in Bangkok - The Big Picture - Boston.com

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    I saw a vid on MSNBC about an hour ago, couldn't believe my eyes, soldiers firing M-16s at young Thai running across a street. Can't find the same vid I saw.




    Bangkok burns after Thai protest leaders arrested


    By DENIS D. GRAY
    Associated Press Writer
    updated 1 hour, 19 minutes ago

    BANGKOK - Downtown Bangkok became a flaming battleground Wednesday as an army assault forced anti-government protest leaders to surrender, enraging followers who shot grenades and set fire to landmark buildings, cloaking the skyline in black smoke.

    Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva tried Wednesday night to reassure the country that the government would restore calm but fires spread through the capital. His government declared a nighttime curfew, and he said in his televised address troops had been given the go-ahead to shoot at suspected arsonists.

    The troops had moved earlier in the day against thousands of so-called Red Shirt protesters, mostly rural poor, who had camped behind barricades in the capital's premier shopping and residential district for weeks, demanding Abhisit call immediate elections.

    The army used live ammunition to disperse them, drawing fire from militant Red Shirts. Officials confirmed five protesters and an Italian news photographer were confirmed killed and about 60 wounded.

    Witnesses said that six to eight additional dead lay in the temple where hundreds of protesters, including women and children, had sought sanctuary. Mark MacKinnon, a journalist for Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper who was with the refuge seekers, said the situation remained dangerous at Wat Pathum Vanaram, next to the abandoned protest site despite a cease-fire that allowed health workers to evacuate several injured, including a British journalist.

    After Red Shirt leaders gave themselves up to police on Wednesday afternoon, rioters set fires at the Stock Exchange, several banks, the headquarters of the Metropolitan Electricity Authority, Central World — one of Asia's biggest shopping malls — and a cinema that burned to ground. There were reports of looting.

    Firefighters retreated after protesters shot at them, and thick smoke drifted across the sky of this city of 10 million people.

    Sporadic clashes between troops and protesters continued in the night.

    The chaos in Bangkok after the two-month protest will deepen the impact on the economy and tourism industry of Thailand, a key U.S. ally and long considered one of the more stable countries in Southeast Asia.

    A 10-hour curfew came into force in Bangkok and 23 other provinces at 8 p.m., and the government said army operations would continue through the night in the Thai capital.

    It is the first time that Bangkok has been put under curfew since 1992, when the army killed dozens of pro-democracy demonstrators seeking the ouster of a military-backed government.

    "Tonight is going to be another worrisome night," government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said.

    The government also imposed a partial media blackout on local TV stations, saying all of them will have to air government-prepared bulletins.

    "They might be able to show their regular news programs. But we are concerned about their live broadcasts from the scenes," Panitan said.

    Protesters had already turned their rage on the local media, which they have accused of pro-government coverage. They attacked the offices of state-run Channel 3, setting fire to cars outside and puncturing water pipes that flooded the building.

    "At Channel 3 need urgent help from police, soldiers!!!" tweeted news anchor Patcharasri Benjamasa. "News cars were smashed and they are about to invade the building."

    Hours later its building was on fire. Its executives were evacuated by helicopter and police rescued other staff. The English-language Bangkok Post newspaper evacuated its staff after threats from the Red Shirts. A large office building down the street from the Post was set afire.

    Thailand's stock exchange would be closed for the rest of the week after rioters set the building's ground floor on fire, its president, Patareeya Benjapolchai, told The Associated Press.

    The exchange, where about $600 million of shares change hands each day, may reopen on Monday, she said. The central bank, meanwhile, said all financial institutions in Bangkok including commercial banks would be shut Thursday and Friday.

    Unrest also spread to the rural northeast and north of the country, where Red Shirts, who claim Abhisit's government is elitist and oblivious to their plight, retain strong support.

    Local media reported protesters set fire to government offices in the city of Udon Thani and vandalized a city hall in Khon Kaen. Udon Thani's governor asked the military to intervene. TV images showed troops retreating after being attacked by mobs in Ubon Ratchathani. There were also reports of fires and unrest in the northern city of Chiang Mai, Thailand's third largest.

    Cabinet minister Satit Vongnongteay described the chaos as anticipated "aftershocks."

    "There are violence-prone protesters who remain angry," Satit told a news conference.

    At least 80 people have been reported killed and nearly 1,800 injured since the Red Shirts descended on Bangkok in mid-March to press their demands. In response, Abhisit offered to hold elections in November, a year earlier than required. Despite initial hopes that could end the standoff, Red Shirt leaders issued new demands and the protesters stayed put.

    Many are supporters of populist former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who was ousted in a 2006 military coup. Thaksin lives in exile after being sentenced in absentia to two years prison for corruption. The government accuses him of having bankrolled the protests.

    The army cranked up pressure last Thursday, trying to blockade the protesters who had camped in the 1-square-mile (3-square-kilometer) Rajprasong district. That military pressure sparked violent clashes. Some 51 of the reported fatalities in the unrest have occurred since then.

    The final crackdown began soon after dawn Wednesday, as hundreds of troops armed with M-16s converged on Rajprasong, where high-end malls and hotels have been shuttered for weeks.

    Armored vehicles crashed through barricades of piled tires and bamboo stakes, then soldiers gradually moved toward the protesters' hub, opening fire and drawing return fire from militant Red Shirts, Associated Press journalists saw.

    Bullets flew overhead and several grenades exploded near the soldiers, forcing them to pull back and take cover briefly before pushing forward. A Canadian freelance reporter was injured by grenade shrapnel. Two other journalists were wounded earlier, one Dutch man and an American documentary filmmaker.

    With no hope of resisting the military's advance, seven top Red Shirt leaders turned themselves in on Wednesday afternoon, saying they cannot see their supporters being killed.

    "Brothers and sisters, I'm sorry I cannot see you off the way I welcomed you all when you arrived here. But please be assured that our hearts will always be with you," Nattawut Saikua, a key leader, said as he was being arrested.

    "Please return home," he said.

    By mid-afternoon, the army announced it had gained control of the protest zone and the operations had ended — nine hours after troops launched the pre-dawn assault, although sporadic clashes with rioters continued into the night.


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37221267/ns/world_news

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    Quote Originally Posted by waah
    Just found this for anyone still up.. WARNING SOME IMAGES ARE QUITE DISTURBING IF YOU DON'T LIKE SEEING DEAD PEOPLE!!! Crackdown in Bangkok - The Big Picture - Boston.com
    Here are some more pics

    http://tnews.teenee.com/politic/50814.html

    WARNING: Some of these are a bit hardcore too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib View Post
    The tipping point has past... Social & political incursions will not stop as the remnants of the reds are infuriated and hell-bent on 'justice' in their minds, whatever that may be... Appears that burning down elitist establishments is at the top of the list today...
    How is Central World elitist? It is just a normal shopping mall or better was.

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    ^ It was a metaphorical statement... To a rice farmer from Issan, Central World is the epitome of the things they want but feel they have been cheated out of... However incorrect that may be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabian
    How is Central World elitist? It is just a normal shopping mall or better was.
    Quote Originally Posted by Muadib
    ^ It was a metaphorical statement... To a rice farmer from Issan, Central World is the epitome of the things they want but feel they have been cheated out of... However incorrect that may be...
    I don't think it was burned because it was perceived as 'elitist' more likley that that it was just the only thing in throwing distance when the petrol bomb was lit. And I don't think your average farmer would be interested in they are selling.

    It's a great shame anyway, the website that my my wife has been reading all night, (if it is to be belived) says that the 18,000 workers in CW who were only on leave until now are permanently out of work.

    I argued that the ones who work for franchises will be relocated to other branches but she insists that they are out of work. It's probably an early panic reaction to the situation.

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    From the U K Telegraph

    Bangkok in flames as protesters refuse to back down
    Bangkok is in flames as the government admits it lost control when protesters set fire to key buildings in the city following a day of running battles with troops which left 12 dead and 60 injured.

    Damien McElroy and Ian MacKinnon in Bangkok
    Rioters set fires at the stock exchange, electricity headquarters, banks and government offices. Siam Theatre, a much loved city institution, collapsed in flames. Hundreds of people had to be rescued from the burning headquarters of Channel 3 television. The death toll since fresh outbreaks of violence on Thursday now stands at 51.
    The government issued "shoot on site" orders for a dawn raid as troops tried to disperse 2,000 Red Shirts who had been camped in Rajprasong, the capital's premier shopping and office district, for more than six weeks.

    Seven of the Red Shirt leaders surrendered to police but militant gangs waged an arson and looting spree. The vast Central World shopping centre was torched as government troops shot to kill in a last ditch effort to defend it.
    When the army finally marched cautiously into the protesters' former stronghold they discovered that the 2,000 strong crowd had dwindled to one woman.
    Kuesadee Narukan, an elderly nurse, stood holding a red flag in the deserted arena. The sound system remained on and rice was cooking on the boilers. "I am not afraid. I am ready for my punishment," she said. "I am a fighter for democracy.
    A few lame stragglers on the makeshift beds were arrested. The others had left for a sports stadium to be loaded on to buses for home.
    A Red Shirt commander yesterday said that the violence would continue. "All this area will burn and wherever I go I am okay because the army is fighting ghosts far behind me," the self-styled Commander Toei said. "They are attacking the Red Shirt stage but all of Bangkok is supporting our effort."
    An offer of early elections from Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, a 45-year old Old Etonian, has failed to defuse the impasse. In a televised address last night Mr Abhisit said that he would "get through" the crisis and "return peace" to the country.
    "I would like people to feel confident that my government, all officials and I strongly intend to get through this and we will return peace to the country and recover", he said.
    A curfew from 8pm to 6am was in place last night to stop the violence but there were doubts it would hold. With the police acting as bystanders, the army is the only force that can impose order street-by-street during the first curfew in 18 years.
    In a mark of how widespread trouble had become the curfew was later extended to 23 province.
    The protesters wants the dissolution of parliament and rehabilitation of Thaksin Shinawatra, a former prime minister deposed in 2006.
    Thaksin Shinawatra, the exiled prime minister who commands the loyalty of the Red Shirts, was however officially branded a terrorist last night.
    Mr Thaksin yesterday denied he had control of the Red Shirts and said: "A military crackdown can spread resentment and these resentful people will become guerrillas."
    International concern over the violence in Thailand has grown more acute. Japan became the latest nation to call for a negotiated solution. Bangkok in flames as protesters refuse to back down - Telegraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

    The Police Hospital said 18 people were wounded, including two foreign journalists.

    "I got shot from behind through the shoulder. It's just a flesh wound," a reporter with Dutch national TV, Michel Maas, told Agence France-Presse (AFP) at the hospital.

    The other journalist, an American, was nicked in the leg and not seriously wounded.

    Dutch reporter believes he was shot by soldiers
    Fri, 28/09/2012

    On 26 Sept, Michel Maas, a reporter from the Netherlands, testified to the Department of Special Investigation as a witness to the crackdown on red-shirt protesters in May 2010.

    On 19 May 2010, he was shot in the back while he was reporting news over the phone about the crackdown on Ratchadamri Rd near Lumphini Park. He believed that the bullet was fired from the direction where soldiers were deployed at Ratchadamri intersection and he did not see any ‘men in black’ or armed groups in the area.


    Michel Maas at the crime scene on Ratchadamri Rd with DSI officials

    He said that on that day he was standing on the red shirts’ side in front of the Bangkok Cable Company. He used his camera to zoom in the direction of Ratchadamri Rd near Chulalongkorn Hospital to look for ‘men in black’, and saw soldiers, heavily armed, firing toward the protesters, where he stood. He believed that the soldiers were aware that he was a reporter, as he was taller than everybody else and was a foreigner carrying a camera. He saw the protesters carrying only wooden sticks and one small Thai home-made handgun.

    ‘Then everyone, including me, ran away. When I reached the front of 185 Ratchadamri Condominium, I was shot in the back, but still kept running, until somebody saw me and took me on a motorcycle to hospital. In the case of Fabio Polenghi, the Italian journalist who was shot and killed, I do not know who shot him, because I did not see the incident but saw him when he was dead,’ Maas said.


    The M16 bullet which was retrieved from Michel Maas’ body after an operation (photo by Michel Maas)


    He is the only person injured during the April-May 2010 crackdown who has still kept the bullet as evidence. However, he keeps the bullet at his home in Jakarta, Indonesia, and will give it the investigators if necessary, he said.


    He told reporters that he came to Thailand to provide his account of the events to the authorities to help find the culprits and he hoped that his testimony would be helpful to Fabio’s case as well.

    Maas has been reporting for Volkskrant newspaper and NOS radio station in the Netherlands for over 10 years. He has covered news from battlefields including in Kosovo and Burma, but this was the first time he was injured while on duty, he said.

    He told Prachatai that he never thought that he would be shot at that day, because he had expected the soldiers to give some kind of warning, such as loudspeaker announcements, firing rubber bullets or firing in the air, which is normal practice in other countries. And he was surprised that the Thai soldiers fired live ammunition.

    prachatai.com

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    so there goes the rubber bullets LIE .

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    "And he was surprised that the Thai soldiers fired live ammunition."

    Either he's kidding or he didn't do his homework.

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    Former Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva defends his government's role in the 2010 Bangkok protests.
    Jim Middleton
    Tue Oct 2, 2012

    Source: ABC News | Duration: 10min 59sec

    Vid at link : Former Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva defends his government's role in 2010 protests - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    Photoset

    Protests turn deadly in Thailand
    May 17, 2010

    The Red Shirt political protest in Bangkok, Thailand has been active for nearly two months now, and has entered a new, deadly phase in the past week, with at least 36 of the total 60 deaths occurring in just the last few days.

    Anti-government protesters have barricaded themselves against government troops and the Thai army has declared certain protest areas to be "Live Fire Zones".

    A state of emergency is in effect, covering 17 provinces in the country, as protesters have refused orders to leave, and news just emerged that a renegade general who supported the Red Shirts, Khattiya Sawatdithol, died today from a gunshot wound he suffered on May 13th. Collected here are photos of the recent turmoil in central Bangkok.

    (39 photos total)

    boston.com

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    ^ Uh mid?

    >May 17, 2010

    Am I missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nidhogg
    Am I missing something?
    yep . simply part of the history of the tragedy as reflected by this thread .

    and I should add , pic's at link are worth perusal . As reflected by the post heading , to wit , photoset .

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    ^ fair enough.

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