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    Thailand : Weng - Reds must back Puea Thai

    Weng: Reds must back Puea Thai
    5/05/2010

    The mission of the United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) has not yet completed as it has to support Puea Thai Party to win the next election, UDD co-leader Weng Tochirakarn said.

    “The government will dissolve House of Representatives as called for by red-shirts, but that’s not a real success. We will still have to continue joining force to support the opposition Puea Thai Party to gain a landslide win at the upcoming polls”, Mr Weng said on Wednesday.

    The UDD core leader said red-shirts must back the opposition camp to win at least 300 seats of constituency MP and more than 70 party list MPs to enable it to form a one-party government, he added.

    But the red-shirts must also make sure that Puea Thai Party will include a plan to reinstate the 1997 constitution in its policy, he stated.

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    Ooh, what a brush-over!

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    Yep, the real motivations are being displayed for all to see. Jatuporn will resume his role in parliament no doubt, enjoying his immunity to prosecution...and then Natthuwat and Veera will no doubt stand in the elections in safe PT seats.....

    And if PT wins, as it likely will, what do you think their first act will be??????

    Clue; he's got a square head....
    "Slavery is the daughter of darkness; an ignorant people is the blind instrument of its own destruction; ambition and intrigue take advantage of the credulity and inexperience of men who have no political, economic or civil knowledge. They mistake pure illusion for reality, license for freedom, treason for patriotism, vengeance for justice."-Simón Bolívar

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    And if PT wins, as it likely will, what do you think their first act will be??????

    A public hanging of Suthep

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    Yep, the real motivations are being displayed for all to see. Jatuporn will resume his role in parliament no doubt, enjoying his immunity to prosecution...and then Natthuwat and Veera will no doubt stand in the elections in safe PT seats.....

    And if PT wins, as it likely will, what do you think their first act will be??????

    Clue; he's got a square head....
    I don't agree that Pt will win the next election.
    the current members of the government have a large influence in the North/Northeast.
    They have the money and pull to turn the voters off PT.

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    Around 30 to 40% of eligible voters dont bother to turn out on the day as a general rule. Virtually always in every country, the vast bulk of those apathetic non-voters are the poor who have no real interest in politics as they are too busy trying to make a living and feed the family. Things are going to be a lot different in this next election however, as the redshirt protest has awoken a belief in the peasant class that they can indeed change the way they are treated by government through the collective power of their vote.

    Even a 10% increase in voter turnout favouring the PTP would make a huge difference in the final count in many electorates, as the vast majority of all voters are indeed peasant class.

    Its pretty much a given that PTP will win a large majority in the next elections.
    And the sooner elections are held, while this peasant class sentiment is still hot, the greater the majority the PTP will win by. Such is one of the reasons Abhisit is so determined to push the election date as far as possible into the future. The longer Abhisit can stave off elections, the more the emotive hostility and resentment from the majority peasant class will cool. And with some pre-election sweeteners, he may even be able to turn some of them around.

    Thats just politics. Same same everywhere.

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    Indeed, the PT should win, as it stands now, unless Abhisit can produce some miracles in the coming months...

    But what will we have then?

    A return to Thaksin's Thailand, with "the untouchables" (such as Chalerm) back in power.

    Yes, that will be real progress.

    Maybe they'll even start closing the bars at midnight again too.

    Ohhh, can't wait for that.

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    I dont think possible bar closing times will be much of an issue in the next election.

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    It's just lucky for them I can't vote then!!!

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    I don’t think PT is a shoe-in to win a majority. With the defection of Newin’s faction and a couple of other smaller ones, they now have less then 200 seats and I do not see them winning much more in November. In the January 2009 by-election they did very poorly, only keeping the seats in the areas controlled by the hard-core factions.

    In the coming months, I would not be surprised to see some other small factions defecting and either joining Newin’s BJT, the Puea Pandin, or forming their own parties in order to be able to join which ever side forms the government. Who knows, maybe even Sanoh will join the Democrats.

    Here is a link to a graphic showing the results of the 2007 election and the 2009 by-election. You can clearly see the areas where the PT lost seats. If you understand how upcountry MP elections take place, there is not much reason to think they will get them back.

    One other interesting fact is the proportional voting in 2007. This is where the voter chooses a single party, not a person. The PPP and Democrats were virtually tied, with the Democrats actually slightly ahead. To me, this shows the Democrats are well thought of, and when not pressured to vote a slate chosen by the local faction, people vote for the Democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog View Post
    And if PT wins, as it likely will, what do you think their first act will be??????
    Shut down Thaivisa.com

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    Rather than argue the toss, I prefer to argue the fact that after ten long years the Thai people will vote in an election which, I hope, will finally be respected. If not there will be Hell to pay.

    Let all parties state their case before the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    Rather than argue the toss, I prefer to argue the fact that after ten long years the Thai people will vote in an election which, I hope, will finally be respected. If not there will be Hell to pay.

    Let all parties state their case before the people.
    Not sure any election in Thai history as been respected by all participants, but I whole heartily agree with your sentiments. I do fear that this will be another faction driven election with all the usual shenanigans that are the hallmark of Thai politics.
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    Weng pushing to repeal coup immunity
    October 9, 2013

    Some 116 government MPs have already agreed to sponsor a bill for repealing the immunity for coup leaders and their appointees, Pheu Thai MP Weng Tojirakarn said on Wednesday.

    The draft is designed to cancel the immunity granted under Article 309 of the Constitution.

    The ruling party is expected next week to debate the draft before deciding whether to push for parliamentary deliberation.

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