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    Thai army rejects Japanese journalist death probe

    Thai army rejects Japanese journalist death probe
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    A journalist passes a portrait of Japanese journalist, Hiroyuki Muramoto, at a wake for the slain reporter
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    BANGKOK (AFP) Thailand's army on Wednesday rejected a newspaper report that a Japanese journalist killed in April 10 protest clashes was shot by the military, saying the investigation was not yet complete.

    "The investigation of the scene and other circumstantial evidence is still underway and there is no conclusion yet," said army spokesman Colonel Sunsern Kaewkumnerd.

    "All evidence must be included in the analysis... the report is not based on information from police forensic experts," Sunsern said.

    Hiro Muramoto, 43, a cameraman for Thomson Reuters news agency, was shot in the chest while covering unrest in Bangkok in which 25 people died and 800 were injured when security forces clashed with anti-government protesters.

    The Thai-language Khao Sod newspaper on Wednesday quoted an unnamed senior police source as saying that police forensic experts had ruled that Muramoto was shot from the military side.

    It said that initially Muramoto was standing behind military lines but that when they retreated in the face of a Red Shirt barrage he was then positioned ahead of the military line.

    The Thai army has said live shots were only fired into the air or by troops providing cover for other soldiers during the clashes, while others used blanks and rubber bullets.

    Japanese authorities have reportedly said they would conduct an autopsy to find out if the death was a criminal matter and would seek help from the Thai police and foreign ministry.

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    If it is the case
    why don't they plead tragic mistake caused by the fog of war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    Japanese authorities have reportedly said they would conduct an autopsy to find out if the death was a criminal matter and would seek help from the Thai police and foreign ministry.
    wonder if they will get any further than they did in Burma ?

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    Japan's influence in Thailand is immense

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    One of the hazards of being in the middle of the shite for media.

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    is immense large enough ?

    time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    why don't they plead tragic mistake caused by the fog of war?
    Because they are Thai

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    well at least do not claim the guy committed suicide, why can't the authorities here ever admit to anything? People would have more respect for them if they just came out and agreed they shot him, tragic mistake, very sorry etc etc. Cowards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    The Thai army has said live shots were only fired into the air
    Must have been jumping up and down then to get shot



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    Load up, with rubber bullets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    Japan's influence in Thailand is immense
    It has huge economic influence but will Japanese businesses support any move by Japanese government to exert the influence over a dead reporter?

    No answer needed.

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    Bet this lady pathologist won't be involved in the investigation. She may not reach the "right" conclusion.



    Dr Pornthip Rojana-sunand

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    ^

    Bangkok Post reports that Khunying Porntip Rojanasunan, director of the Justice Ministry's Central Institute of Forensic Science, is now a member of the government's Center for the Resolution of Emergency Situation (CRES). According to the Post,

    Siam Report: CRES Bridges Credibility Gap, Appoints Porntip

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    That punk has vacuum in her cranial cavity. Useless git.

    Plug an aerial in her ear and you have the thai version of the GT200 scanner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
    well at least do not claim the guy committed suicide, why can't the authorities here ever admit to anything? People would have more respect for them if they just came out and agreed they shot him, tragic mistake, very sorry etc etc. Cowards.
    Its the Thai way to lie when caught out. One of those cultural things westerners dont understand. But the Thais think it quite normal and acceptable, even the smart thing to do and worthy of respect, ---- so no loss of face there by telling the biggest fibs they can come up with to protect their arse. Just standard Thai practice that only raises concern among farangs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    Japan's influence in Thailand is immense
    It has huge economic influence but will Japanese businesses support any move by Japanese government to exert the influence over a dead reporter?

    No answer needed.
    If this thing degenerates into a long term, low grade guerrilla war as I suspect it will, the violence could well spill over to foreign businessmen who support the government. Company executives usually dont think those kinds of things are good for the shareholders or themselves. This international incident could well be just the first of many to come in a tactical guerrilla war. The fact that it was the army who shot this bloke is something of a bonus for the anti-government crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda
    If this thing degenerates into a long term, low grade guerrilla war as I suspect it will, the violence could well spill over to foreign businessmen who support the government. Company executives usually dont think those kinds of things are good for the shareholders or themselves. This international incident could well be just the first of many to come in a tactical guerrilla war. The fact that it was the army who shot this bloke is something of a bonus for the anti-government crowd.
    If it does escalate to this certainly the Japanese gov and a host of other country businesses will flee the scene. Thai business will be hurt the most.

    In spite of all the sword rattling and tough talk, all parties know this and will do whatever it takes to prevent such an occurrence even if it means holding snap elections as the pressure mounts. As long as the red shirts hang in there, there is no other option.
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crazy dog View Post
    well at least do not claim the guy committed suicide, why can't the authorities here ever admit to anything? People would have more respect for them if they just came out and agreed they shot him, tragic mistake, very sorry etc etc. Cowards.
    Its the Thai way to lie when caught out. One of those cultural things westerners dont understand. But the Thais think it quite normal and acceptable, even the smart thing to do and worthy of respect, ---- so no loss of face there by telling the biggest fibs they can come up with to protect their arse. Just standard Thai practice that only raises concern among farangs.
    I agree with Crazy Dog - it's far better just to come out and say 'Oops, sorry' than for a government spokesman to bollock on long after the event, denying even that live rounds were used but there's nothing particularly Thai about it. Every time the Metropolitan Police kill someone they always, always, always, fanny about, usually denying that the police were anywhere near, then that they were near but tried to help, then, after video is shown clearly demonstrating that the poor bastard was shot/beaten to death by coppers, launch an enquiry which reports back two years later that they've forgotten what the question was and can they now go home.

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    Being said he was killed by a rubber bullet

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy
    Being said he was killed by a rubber bullet
    Definitely army then . . . I hope there's enough left of the guy for a Japanese forensics team to get their own answers

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    The death of a news cameraman and the nationalistic pride that follows is one thing, that is soon forgotten with yesterdays news, but companies investing for profit take a longer term view of the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by good2bhappy View Post
    Being said he was killed by a rubber bullet
    Still dead nonetheless...

    I would wager the Army will claim the journo was assassinated by the black balaclava clad terrorists who infiltrated the red ranks... No evidence required...

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    ^ JoeMoer, #14,

    Your usual level of biased and uninformed rubbish.

    The lady you refer to has more courage, common sense and knowledge than you will ever have.

    She is highly respected internationally for ceaselessly refusing political restraints upon her role.

    There is no other forensic scientist in Thailand as internationally qualified as she.

    What's the matter, scared of the forensic evidence?

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    This is the first time a Thai soldier has ever shot a Jap.

    Certainly didn't happen in WW2.....they were too busy surrendering.

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    Dr. Phorntip Rojanasunand was appointed to CRES this week, her status as an executive on CRES being backdated to !0th April 2010.

    As director of Thailand's Forensic Institute she initiated autopsy procedure immediately deaths were reported at the morgues that weekend 11th April.

    Autopsies have been completed and forensic examination is now ongoing.

    CRES is probably going to be the final arbiter as to when and to whom and how the forensic findings will be released.

    That information then belongs with the legal investigators appointed by the judiciary,.....

    ...in a perfect world.

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