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    Bangkok Post reports that Khunying Porntip Rojanasunan, director of the Justice Ministry's Central Institute of Forensic Science, is now a member of the government's Center for the Resolution of Emergency Situation (CRES). According to the Post,
    Khunying Porntip Rojanasunan, director of the Justice Ministry's Central Institute of Forensic Science, has been appointed another member of the Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Situation (CRES), acting government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said on Tuesday.

    Khunying Porntip is a respected forensic expert, who has been assigned to carry out many important assignments including the identification of people killed in the 2004 tsunami and examination of bombings by insurgents in the South.

    Mr Panitan said the appointment of Khunying Porntip to the CRES was approved by the cabinet on Tuesday.
    SR: The article mentions Dr. Portip's "examination of bombings", but this fails to say what really needs to be said: Dr. Porntip is an ardent supporter of the GT200, an internationally discredited bomb "detection" device used by the Thai Army and government agencies (her department is a purchaser of the fraudulent device). The GT200, as most are aware, is a nothing more than a modern "dowsing rod" using a black plastic box and an aluminum car aerial. Tests conducted by international experts and Thailand's Ministry of Science and Technology have confirmed the GT200 is not a legitimate bomb detection device. Despite repeated warnings from international governments the Thai government ramped up purchasing of the device until just recently. Even though purchasing is now on hold, the Army leadership and Dr. Porntip still proclaim faith in the device and continue to use it.
    Siam Report: CRES Bridges Credibility Gap, Appoints Porntip

    But whatever her expertise might or might not be, it's absurd to put any faith at all in an investigation being carried out by the CRES. Aside from the fact that the same organisation has been responsible for censoring anything and everything which hasn't followed the government line, you can't expect any organization anywhere in the world to investigate itself honestly.

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    Firing live ammo into the air is a bloody stupid thing to do in a city. It has to land somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    ^ JoeMoer, #14,

    Your usual level of biased and uninformed rubbish.

    The lady you refer to has more courage, common sense and knowledge than you will ever have.
    At least Joe is aware that empty plastic boxes aren't capable of detecting bombs and drugs.

    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    She is highly respected internationally for ceaselessly refusing political restraints upon her role.
    She, like most Thai "experts", is almost unheard of internationally. Her greatest claim to international fame was a National Geo documentary eulogising her wacky hairstyle. On the plus side, it seems that unlike some other well-known Thai "Scientists" she doesn't pay other people to do her research or write her papers for her.

    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    There is no other forensic scientist in Thailand as internationally qualified as she.
    That, sadly, is true. It, however, should be something to be ashamed of, not boasted about. We are, after all, talking about the woman who, using a GT200, found explosive residue in Rohingya boats, providing the justification to push them out to sea without food or engines. Her ethics and her expertise are highly questionable, or, at least, the propagandising about them is highly questionable. Her qualifications are nothing special, a Thai MD from Mahidol U and one year each of Forensic Anthropology and Forensic Pathology at the Armed Forces Institute in Washington DC.
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    The Japanese are still covering up / revising a lot of what they did from WWII and beyond (Nanjing, etc).
    They are quite accustomed to denial of reality, i imagine.

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    DrBob #28 ^

    Bizarre the lady may be, so are a lot of people in forensics, they at least have a sense of humour!

    Death and dying as a daily companion makes one think differently from the norm.

    She is well known in forensic circles, her work is referred to in university forensic study.

    She is a stickler for all the facts and as Thailand proceeds to adopt international forensic science protocols, has had to overcome a lot of resistance from the police, to the extent that she was camped at an army base using some containers for labs and cooking her own food until recently, simply to do some secure study of sample! No security elsewhere.

    She had an empty(non functioning) title as director of Thailand's forensic institute, address/office, phone number email etc but all attempts to reach that department failed for the last 2-3 years, she joked about it.

    Now she is necessary in attempting to sort out the evidential confusion resulting from police mis-handling of all site examinations after bombs etc.

    Good luck to her, she's having to push past the cops bullshit and the media to find the facts.

    Her work has been suppressed by politically/financially motivated police constantly.

    Her findings may be used questionably by media or government, but if she cannot verify her work, or deliberately falsifies results of analysis, or politically slants her work, she is doomed. So far she is not.

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    ^ Oh, as to the degrees, they only open a few doors.
    The rest comes from practice, a continuous requirement.

    2 or 3 top forensic anthropologists were/are ex-butchers!
    Field study mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    She is a stickler for all the facts
    was ......................

    it's ALL past tense now since she came out to support the GT200 her credibility has plummeted to zero

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    I don't think the GT200 controversy is going to finish her off.

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    Japan urges Thailand to shed light on Japanese cameraman's death
    Saturday 24th July

    HANOI — Foreign Minister Katsuya Okada met his Thai counterpart Kasit Piromya Friday and urged the Thai government to shed light on the shooting death of Japan-based Reuters television cameraman Hiroyuki Muramoto in April amid violent clashes in Bangkok, a Japanese official said.

    Okada told Kasit that Tokyo hopes Bangkok will strive to find out at an early date how Muramoto was killed in the chaos. He also expected the Thai government to help Japanese companies that sustained damage from the violence, the official said.

    The two ministers met on the sidelines of a security meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations and its partners in the Vietnamese capital. Muramoto, 43, died after being shot in the chest while filming violent clashes between security forces and antigovernment protesters in Bangkok on April 10.

    Kasit was quoted as saying the Thai government will probe his death ‘‘in a transparent manner and based on laws’’ and will ‘‘positively deal with’’ the issue of compensating Japanese businesses as it has received a list of damage from the Japanese Embassy in Bangkok.

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    Frustrating when people simply can't tell the truth, does Thailand have less to lose by saying black is white than by simply apologizing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    I don't think the GT200 controversy is going to finish her off.
    It should though, wouldn't you agree?

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    DSI: Probe into deaths of foreign journalists a top priority
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    BANGKOK, 24 July 2010 (NNT) — The Department of Special Investigation (DSI) has affirmed that the probe into the deaths of two foreign journalists during the anti-government riots remains a top priority.

    Though admitting the difficulties of pinpointing specific details and making a prompt conclusion on the killing of the Japanese and Italian reporters during the recent political mayhem, DSI Spokesperson Police Colonel Narat Svestanan insisted that the matter had been placed as a top agenda by the authorities. The progress of the investigation into the death of the Japanese has been clarified to Japanese consular officials on a weekly basis.

    Based on preliminary investigations, the Japanese was shot with a high-speed bullet. However, as many others, including the Italian reporter and Thai nationals, were also killed and injured at the scene, Pol Col Narat explained that the DSI was considering all cases collectively without discrimination.

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    Thai Probe of Journalist Deaths Called Inadequate
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    Thursday, July 29, 2010

    BANGKOK — Thailand's government has failed to properly investigate the shooting deaths of two journalists killed while they covered recent political violence, and the perpetrators of those attacks should be brought to justice, a press freedom group said Thursday.

    The Committee to Protect Journalists concluded in a seven-page report that both the government and protesters during March-May demonstrations "engaged in lethal recklessness that led to the deaths of two journalists" and injured nine other media members.


    Ground staff of Japan Airlines bow towards the body of Japanese journalist Hiroyuki Muramoto, transported within the container with a bouquet of flowers on top, upon his arrival at the Narita International Airport, suburban Tokyo on April 13. Muramoto, shot dead during bloody clashes between soldiers and protesters in Thailand, returned his home country.
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    The New York-based group alleged that initial government investigations and even the autopsies of the two men were "incomplete and opaque" and that investigations by embassies, victims' relatives and news organizations had been obstructed or denied access to information.CPJ called on the government to complete the official autopsies and police investigations into the deaths, fully investigate cases of injured journalists and to open relevant information to independent probes.

    According to the CPJ report, Sek Wannamethee, the second-ranking diplomat at the Thai Embassy in the US, said in a written response that the government regretted the loss of life and was committed to investigating fully and impartially.

    CPJ cited some two dozen journalist witnesses to the violence in alleging government troops several times "fired in a random manner into crowds of apparently unarmed demonstrators, frequently in areas where reporters were present." The witnesses also saw "heavily armed, black-clad protesters who fired gunshots and launched grenades at troops deployed in areas where journalists were positioned."

    Italian freelance photographer Fabio Polenghi, 48, was shot dead May 19 as troops moved to quash the 10-week protests in central Bangkok. The CPJ report said his family was dissatisfied at the government's response, including a failure to provide an official autopsy report despite repeated requests.

    The report said a similar lack of clarity attended the April 10 death of Hiro Muramoto, 43, a Japanese cameraman for Reuters. Muramoto was among about two dozen people who died in the first armed clashes between troops and the protesters. In all, nearly 90 people died, most of them protesters.

    The report said that an investigation by Reuters found that Muramoto "was shot almost certainly by a high velocity bullet fired at street level while standing in a street between Thai troops and red shirt protesters," contradicting an earlier government suggestion that a rooftop sniper on the protesters' side was responsible.

    CPJ also cited an unnamed Bangkok-based diplomat as saying the government refused to release closed-circuit television footage surveillance of the April 10 violence that might shed light on Muramoto's death.

    The report also called for the government to lift censorship of the media that was imposed under a state of emergency declared during the protests.

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    Sister wants justice for reporter shot in Thailand
    Saturday July 31, 2010

    BANGKOK (AP) - The sister of an Italian photographer killed as troops forcibly suppressed an anti-government protest in Bangkok has asked the government to work harder to clear up the circumstances of his death.

    Isabella Polenghi said she especially would like to recover the camera carried by her brother, Fabio Polenghi, which disappeared sometime after he was shot on May 19. It's not known who killed him: Both government soldiers and a small number of protesters were armed. His mobile phone also disappeared.

    "I want to know what he saw that day (before he was killed)," Isabella Polenghi told a news conference Friday. "We want to get to the truth, to the bottom of things."

    Two journalists were killed and nine others wounded in clashes between troops and protesters who occupied central Bangkok for two months as they sought the dissolution of the government. Hiro Muramoto, a Japanese cameraman for Reuters, was killed April 10 in one of those battles.

    In a report released this week, the New York-based Committee to Protect Journalists called the investigations and autopsies conducted by Thai authorities "incomplete and opaque."

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    Japan's Foreign Minister Katsuya Okada lays flowers at site where Japanese cameraman was shot dead in April during clashes between troops and anti-government in BKK: AFP

    Japan's Foreign Minister lays flowers at site where Japanese cameraman was shot dead in BKK

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    Japanese journalist possibly killed by Thai state security
    Wednesday 17th November

    BANGKOK — Thai government investigators have preliminary evidence that state personnel may have been involved in the shooting death of a Japanese television cameraman during the political unrest in Bangkok in April, the head of the Department of Special Investigation said Tuesday.

    Hiroyuki Muramoto, a Japanese television cameraman for Reuters news agency, died from bullet wounds during a violent antigovernment demonstration in central Bangkok on April 10.

    DSI Director General Tarit Pengdith told a news conference that Thai law requires further investigation by forensic experts, police, local municipality officials and public prosecutors to determine if the death was caused by state personnel in the line of duty.

    The authorities will have no longer than 90 days to complete their investigation. Under Thai law, a magistrate will also hold hearings to determine the cause of death, Tarit said.

    ‘‘We haven’t been able to conclude who the perpetrators are but some evidence indicated possible involvement of state authorities. Therefore, we need to have an extra round of forensic work,’’ Tarit said.

    At the Tuesday press conference, the DSI released investigation findings that 12 people—seven soldiers, two police officers and three citizens—were killed by antigovernment ‘‘Red Shirt’’ protesters of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) or militia linked to the opposition group.

    The DSI investigation concluded that Red Shirt protesters or UDD militia killed five soldiers, including a colonel, on April 10 near the Democracy Monument, where Muramoto was shot in the chest.

    The DSI said Red Shirt protesters or UDD militia were responsible for a grenade attack on an elevated train station in the Silom area that killed one woman and wounded 75 others, an arson at a posh shopping mall and a bomb attack in front of a hypermarket in the city center.

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    Japanese embassy official meets police chief over death of Japanese cameraman
    วันพุธ ที่ 15 ธ.ค. 2553



    BANGKOK, Dec 15 -- A senior Japanese embassy official on Wednesday met National Police Chief Pol Gen Wichean Potephosree to ask the Thai authorities to speed up their investigation into the death of a Japanese cameraman killed during Red Shirt protest.

    Cameraman Hiroyuki Muramoto of the Reuters news agency was shot dead while filming the confrontation between the government security forces and the anti-government 'Red Shirt' United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) in April.

    Nobuaki Ito, Minister of Political Affairs at the Japanese embassy in Bangkok, met Gen Wichean at the National Police Bureau headquarters today for more than an hour.

    Gen Wichean said after the meeting that Mr Ito came to hand over the document received from Puea Thai Party list MP and UDD leader Jatuporn Prompan to him.

    He said Mr Ito told him that initially the Japanese government believed that the document was real even though the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) said the document did not tally with the findings of the Thai authorities.

    The Japanese envoy has asked Thailand to speed up its investigation with discretion and fairness, the national police chief said.

    Gen Wichean said he has told Mr Ito about the procedure and that high ranking police officers were appointed to supervise the case.

    Mr Ito seemed satisfied with the process although no details indicated who actually killed the Japanese cameraman, said Gen Wichean.

    Mr Jatuporn claimed to have received a leaked secret DSI report which indicated that troops were probably responsible for some deaths of people killed in Bangkok during the Red Shirt rallies.

    Among these were Mr Hiroyuki who was shot on April 10 at Khok Wua intersection and three people found dead after May 19 at Wat Pathum Wanaram.

    DSI Director General Tharit Pengdit, speaking in his capacity as chief of the investigation of the cases of terrorism and unrest, said earlier that the probe of the deaths during the discord are still underway and no conclusion has been reached, while also urging the Red Shirt leader not to raise the issue of the incomplete investigation to influence the public.

    Eighty-nine persons, both security personnel and protesters, were killed and more than 1,900 were wounded in a number of clashes between troops and demonstrators of the UDD during their ten-week long rallies against the Democrat-led coalition government.

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    I'm sure I read somewhere a Thai polly asserting that the Japanese officials had a correct understanding .............

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    Japanese diplomat meets Thai minister over death of Japanese cameraman
    วันจันทร์ ที่ 27 ธ.ค. 2553



    BANGKOK, Dec 27 -- A senior Japanese embassy official on Monday met Thai Minister attached to the Prime Minister's Office Ongart Klampaiboon urging the Thai investigators to speed up their probe into the death of a Japanese cameraman killed in April during the Red Shirt protests.

    Cameraman Hiroyuki Muramoto of the Reuters news agency was shot dead while filming the confrontation in the capital between the government security forces and the anti-government 'Red Shirt' United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD).

    Nobuaki Ito, Minister of Political Affairs at the Japanese embassy, met Mr Ongart at Government House for more than an hour.

    Mr Ongart told reporters after the meeting that Mr Ito came to discuss the case as the Japanese government wants to see the case concluded as soon as possible.

    The Thai minister however said Mr Ito did not intend to put pressure on the Thai authorities nor interfere in Thailand's legal process. He said that the Japanese government did not set any deadline for concluding the case.

    Mr Ongart said he has told the Japanese diplomat that the case was being handled by the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) and the government could neither influence nor delay the case.

    The minister said he believed the Japanese government would understand and cast no doubt on Thai procedures to find truth during the violent protest earlier this year.

    The investigation should carried out cautiously to avoid any adverse impact on any particular party, Mr Ongart said, saying that the slow progress of the case would not have an impact on bilateral ties.

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    วันพฤหัสบดี ที่ 20 ม.ค. 2554

    the case of the Japanese photojournalist could not yet be concluded as the department is awaiting a police autopsy report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    Japanese authorities have reportedly said they would conduct an autopsy to find out if the death was a criminal matter and would seek help from the Thai police and foreign ministry.
    http://teakdoor.com/battle-for-bangk...ml#post1399836 (Thai army rejects Japanese journalist death probe)

    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    Dr. Phorntip Rojanasunand was appointed to CRES this week, her status as an executive on CRES being backdated to !0th April 2010.

    As director of Thailand's Forensic Institute she initiated autopsy procedure immediately deaths were reported at the morgues that weekend 11th April.

    Autopsies have been completed and forensic examination is now ongoing.

    CRES is probably going to be the final arbiter as to when and to whom and how the forensic findings will be released.

    That information then belongs with the legal investigators appointed by the judiciary,.....

    ...in a perfect world.

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    DSI changes ruling on cameraman's death

    NEW REPORT ABSOLVES MILITARY OF BLAME
    27/02/2011

    The army is breathing a sigh of relief after a Department of Special Investigation (DSI) report concluded troops were not responsible for the death of a Japanese cameraman during last year's red shirt protests.

    However, the relief may be short-lived, amid claims that the army chief of staff paid the DSI head a visit to complain about an initial department finding which claimed the opposite _ that soldiers should in fact be blamed for Japanese cameraman Hiroyuki Muramoto's death during the rally at Khok Wua intersection on April 10 last year.

    The DSI is likely to face questions about why it changed its stance, though DSI director-general Tharit Pengdit yesterday stood by the latest report, saying it was based on scientific and forensic findings. He also denied meeting the army chief of staff.

    The weapons report, which he did not release, found that the Reuters News Agency cameraman was shot dead with an AK-47 rifle while covering the clashes.

    In that case, troops could not be blamed for the death, said the report, because they carried different weapons.

    Mr Tharit said Muramoto's body was found with AK-47 bullet wound patterns. Soldiers had not used the weapon, he said.

    The DSI had invited the Japanese embassy to send its staff to inspect the report.

    "We investigated the cause of Mr Muramoto's death based on facts and principles of forensic science," said Mr Tharit.

    The army has backed the finding, saying troops deployed to disperse the red shirt rally that day were not armed with AK- 47 rifles, only with US-made M16 and Israel-made Tavor rifles.

    "The soldiers did not use AK-47 rifles that day," said spokesman Col Sansern Kaewkamnerd.

    The new findings contradict an earlier finding by the DSI which indicated that troops were probably responsible for Muramoto's death.

    Mr Tharit yesterday declined to comment on the discrepancy other than to say the earlier report did not say categorically that the army was to blame for the cameraman's death.

    An army source said the military was not satisfied with the first conclusion and assigned army chief of staff Dapong Rattanasuwan to meet the DSI chief Tharit about two weeks ago to clear up the matter.

    The source also said the army had imported about 20,000 AK-47 rifles into the country two decades ago.

    About 19,000 of them had been distributed for use at military camps nationwide, while the rest were kept at the army's weapon storage site.
    Thida Thawornseth, chairwoman of the UDD, is still demanding the army take responsibility for Muramoto's death.

    "The DSI can't deny the facts because many witnesses saw the Japanese man being shot dead from where the authorities were standing," Ms Thida said.

    "A black-clad man was seen pointing a gun at the protesters from the authorities' side.

    "The Japanese man was standing among the protesters.

    "If the cameraman was not shot dead by authorities, who was that black-clad man?"

    Meanwhile, about 4,000-5,000 red shirt supporters are expected to gather at Wat Pathum Wanaram today to make merit for those killed during the protests between March 12 and May 19 last year.

    Pol Maj Gen Prawuth Thawornsiri, spokesman of the Centre for the Administration of Peace and Order (Capo), said security will be tightened around the temple.

    Seven UDD leaders were released on bail recently on charges stemming from the protest.

    The seven, led by Natthawut Saikua will chair the merit-making ceremony. Mr Natthawut said he would push to have other red shirts still held in jail to be granted bail.

    He will also help fugitive red shirt leaders wanted on terrorism charges to return to the country to fight their cases in court.

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    The above is a picture of Hiroyuki Muramoto RIP ,

    who was responsible for this picture


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    of Kenji Nagai RIP .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid


    The DSI is likely to face questions about why it changed its stance, though DSI director-general Tharit Pengdit yesterday stood by the latest report, saying it was based on scientific and forensic findings.

    He also denied meeting the army chief of staff. The weapons report, which he did not release, found that the Reuters News Agency cameraman was shot dead with an AK-47 rifle while covering the clashes.

    In that case, troops could not be blamed for the death, said the report, because they carried different weapons. Mr Tharit said Muramoto's body was found with AK-47 bullet wound patterns. Soldiers had not used the weapon, he said.

    A source close to the panel looking into the death of a Japanese cameraman killed during anti-government protests in April last year says there is no certainty about the finding that he was shot with an AK-47 rifle.


    In a preview on Saturday of the report's release, DSI chief Tharit Pengdit said Muramoto's body was found with AK-47 bullet wound patterns and soldiers involved in the April 10 clashes did not use that type of weapon. He cited a report by an unnamed weapons expert.

    The panel did not reach a conclusion about the exact type of weapons used in the killing of Muramoto and the other people because no bullets were found in any of the examined bodies, the source said.

    Bangkok Post : No firm view on AK-47 role in deaths

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