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    There will be no peace in this country 'till there is an election .

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    ^ you might be right but it's hardly the best solution for long term peace and stability, unless the PPP give up their bid to have Thaksin return, which they won't since they are a proxy for Thaksin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin View Post
    Could you consider that perhaps Butters has a fundamental point? {I'm not taking sides here}
    He hasn't. He believes, for some reason, that everybody who's against appointed government, military control, the PAD lunatics, mob violence (any side), unelected politicians, bombs, guns, graft, and criminality must be for Thaksin. He's wrong of course but he's incapable of seeing things in anything other than black and white. Remember that this is is a man who also believes the human race was planted on Earth by aliens. While he's quite good at disrupting threads his opinions are not to be taken seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    He's wrong of course but he's incapable of seeing things in anything other than black and white.
    haha, coming from you that's rich, you advocating the poor are always right, and the rich are always wrong, and thinking that Democracy can be summarized by the one-person, one-vote system. Totally clueless, but you are not a political analyst so it's harmless at the end

    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    While he's quite good at disrupting threads his opinions are not to be taken seriously.
    Typical Thai thinking, ignore logic when it hits you in the face and proceed to disregard any valid argument because in binary thinking terms, either you are always right or always wrong !!! DrB logic indeed

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    ^Even if they were not a proxy it would not matter to the PAD. Any rate til the PAD realize they are done, and the power resides in the North/Northeast this will continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DrB0b
    He's wrong of course but he's incapable of seeing things in anything other than black and white.
    haha, coming from you that's rich, you advocating the poor are always right, and the rich are always wrong, and thinking that Democracy can be summarized by the one-person, one-vote system.
    As I said
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    He's wrong of course but he's incapable of seeing things in anything other than black and white.

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    The Election Commission team looking into the Democrat Party dissolution case yesterday said it still has much work to do, particularly since the report from the Department of Special Investigation contained many holes.

    Probe into Democrat funds incomplete: EC - Nationmultimedia.com

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    Drag feet - check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    There will be no peace in this country 'till there is an election .
    "There will be no peace as long as Kirk lives!!!!'

    You're delusional -- even with, after an election, the divisiveness will continue.

    What it will take is for Thaksin to be dead - cut of the head of the snake, and all that...

    (cue the usual comments how the UDD has nothing to do with Thaksin, how it's all about about justice, democracy, and democracy, and other of the usual platitudes by the blue collar posse....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly
    I am puzzled, why was it OK and all Democratic when Thaksin was rubbing shoulders with those thieves, and then it suddenly becomes unacceptable when it's someone else doing it
    It's called hypocrisy Butters.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaffyDuck
    What it will take is for Thaksin to be dead
    The divides in Thai society run far deeper than Thaksin, although he is exploiting them for his own benefit. The fundamentally flawed Thai society and political model will remain and it will merely be another populist government that will reawaken the masses if Thaksin was dead.

    He's a product of this flawed model remember, he was just better at it than anyone else before him.

    And now his brand of politics have been seen to be successful, even the Democrats are copying them.

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    I think I've heard of the postpone of this case 3 times, each time with new or same excuse, but I can tell that this party cannot be dissolved.

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    The examination of the petition alleging the Democrat Party unlawfully received a donation of 258 million baht from a listed company and misused the 29 million baht political party development fund is likely to be concluded next month, Election Commission chairman Apichart Sukhagghanond said on Monday.

    EC: Donation case decision in March

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    And now his brand of politics have been seen to be successful, even the Democrats are copying them.
    Yes, yes. Of course.

    They do seem to have missed out the heart of the model, though. The "being elected" bit, you know?

    Wonder why they don't just "copy" that.

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    Democrat’s fund misuse case reaches Constitutional Court
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    BANGKOK, 26 April 2010 (NNT) - The Election Commission (EC) has presented the case report on the Democrat Party’s mishandling of a political development fund to the Constitutional Court for deliberation this afternoon.

    After the Election Commissioners voted to disband the ruling Democrat Party on grounds of misusing a political development fund worth 29 million THB allocated by the EC, the case has officially reached the Constitutional Court today. EC officials reportedly submitted an 80,000-page case report with the Constitution Tribunal for review.

    Meanwhile, the Democrat Party has formed a team of lawyers to fight the EC's dissolution suit with Mr Bundit Siriphan as the head.

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    an 80,000-page case report

    good greif

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mid
    good greif
    good brief I say

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    should take a few years to read

    next !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainwashed View Post
    I think I've heard of the postpone of this case 3 times, each time with new or same excuse, but I can tell that this party cannot be dissolved.
    They could. They'd just set up the "New Democrat Party" - trouble is all the executive would be banned for five years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brainwashed View Post
    I think I've heard of the postpone of this case 3 times, each time with new or same excuse, but I can tell that this party cannot be dissolved.
    They could. They'd just set up the "New Democrat Party" - trouble is all the executive would be banned for five years.
    .....hmmm. Sounds familiar.

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    from the blogworld .....................

    The lost verdict of the Constitutional Court
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    Prachatai columnist Bai Tong Hang has searched the website of the Constitutional Court for its official verdict on the Democrat Party dissolution case which the court dismissed in early December last year, but has found nothing.

    Two months and two weeks have elapsed since the court handed down its ruling on 9 December 2010 with a 4-3 vote to dismiss the case lodged by the Attorney-general to dissolve the party for allegedly receiving an illegal donation from TPI Polene Ltd Plc via the Messiah Company.

    In dismissing the case, the court cited technical grounds that Chair of the Election Commission Aphichart Sukhagganond had not made any decision as the Political Party Registrar.

    Of course, this case is finished because the Constitutional Court has given its ruling. The opposition Phue Thai Party and the media have lost interest.

    It now doesn’t matter whether there were any irregularities in the process of selecting court officials, or a court judge appointed his own son as his secretary as alleged at the time, or where the controversial secretary of the President of the Constitutional Court has gone, etc.

    However, the court just cannot leave it like this, because it has to release its official verdict for posterity, Bai Tong Hang says.

    The Constitutional Court is not required by law to come up with its official verdict in a specific period of time after giving its unofficial ruling, but Point 54 of its own regulations states that the court must publish its verdict together with the views of all the judges in the Royal Gazette.

    Bai Tong Hang argues that the 7 judges of the Constitutional Court must have finished their personal written judgments to be read at the court meeting on the morning of 9 Dec, and after the vote, all the judges have to produce the court’s verdict or assign one of them to write it. And it would take a few more days for court officials to check it before sending it to be published on the Royal Gazette.

    He raises as an example the 29-million baht fraud case involving the Political Parties Development Fund, when the Constitutional Court gave its ruling on 29 Nov 2010 and the official verdict and the judges’ personal judgments were published on the court’s website on 8 Dec 2010.

    So how come the verdict in the 258-million baht donation case is still unpublished after 75 days, despite the fact that during this period the court has already published its verdicts on three other cases?

    He hopes that we will not have to wait for this until the general elections, because after the Constitutional Court ruled on the case, the press asked the Chair of the Election Commission how he would show his responsibility, and he said that he wanted to wait to read the official verdict first.

    As a result, he has still got away with it, and is about to organize the next general elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveCM View Post
    Pasit alleges Constitution Court lobbied to spare Democrat

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    Pasit Sakdanarong, former secretary to the Constitution Court president, alleged Sunday that the court had been lobbied to spare the Democrat Party in a party dissolution case.

    Pasit alleged that someone sent a letter and made a phone call to Constitution Court President Chat Chonlaworn, urging him to help the Democrat escape solution.

    Speaking during a red-shirt rally at Rajdamnone to mark the April 10 clash at the Kokwua Intersection, Pasit did not name the person who sent the letter and made the call.

    But red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan tacitly alleged that Privy Council President Prem Tinsulanonda was referred to by Pasit.

    "I would like to ask Prem if he sent the letter and made the phone call to Chat, asking the court president not to dissolve the Democrat. Pasit witnessed all of the events," Jatuporn said.


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    ^
    Would anyone be surprised if the caller was Prem? Nope. Will this revelation (if true) make any differrence (e.g. will the verdict be reconsidered)? Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer View Post
    ^
    Would anyone be surprised if the caller was Prem? Nope. Will this revelation (if true) make any differrence (e.g. will the verdict be reconsidered)? Nope.
    Why would it matter if it was in fact Prem? He doesnt hold any influential position does he? (SMILEY WITHELD).

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    Apparently one feels "strong" when one wears a uniform. Of course what one wears underneath is telling too. I'm sure only the best of the best laceys.

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    Is he a pitcher or catcher?

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