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    Unhappy Damn. Guess my November 6th trip is off.

    Based on everything seen and read here and on the various news sources, and on advice from friends in-country, it looks like my first-visit to Thailand on November 6th needs to be postponed. The entire place is under water it seems and sounds like it's to get worse before it gets better.

    No way I'm flying 3,000 miles to get in the middle of that. It's supposed to be a vacation after all. Pushing it back is the wisest move by all accounts.

    Very disappointing. Just when I finally want to go after 10 years of merely "talking" about it.

    So I made an initial phone inquiry to Delta Airlines yesterday about moving my flight dates to mid-January only to learn that they want $250 per ticket in "change fees". I informed the person on the phone about the flooding situation there and she said she had not heard anything "official" about it yet. I told her to check out CNN or Yahoo.

    She insisted that until they hear something official, I would still need to pay the change fees. Gotta love corporate greed.

    But now I'm hearing that the domestic airport Don Muang is closed - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15441663

    Wondering how much worse it will get and for how long. Is there a possibility of the main Int'l airport being affected at all?

    I intend to call Delta back and speak to someone a little bit higher on the food chain to complain about the change fees. $500 really sucks for something totally out of your control. Not like I'm just changing my mind.

    I don't expect to have any success, but I'm going to let them know I'm mad about it, haha.

    I read a quote somewhere saying they expect waters won't recede for another 4 to 6 weeks. That right?

    I'm assuming things should be back to normal by mid-January which is why I am looking at those dates for the new schedule. Am I assuming too much?

    After all, I assumed that when I finally planned my first trip to Thailand, there would not be a once-a-century type flooding crisis going on at the same point in time either.

    The wife is very agitated and disappointed about the delay and don't think I can push it much past January. You married guys out there know that the weather is also your fault too


    This concludes my meaningless whoa-is-me rant.

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    Where in toyland were you gunna stay?

    It's not everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore View Post
    Where in toyland were you gunna stay?

    It's not everywhere.

    Yes, it is. Thailand is everywhere in Thailand, that's why it's called Thailand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fareastcoastmover
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    Whats the matter? Can't you swim? Bangkok is a bit bigger than hicksville in Rednecksville.

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    The catastrophic flooding is in the lower Chao Praya basin.
    There is no flooding in Phuket, Pattaya and Ko Samui, neither should there be because rainy season is pretty much over.
    Unless your Thai holiday was to be basically a Bangkok holiday, I see no reason to call it off.
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    It's the lousy American carriers. My friend was coming on the 1st and United charged a $400 change fee! She mentioned the disaster situation and was told they they will only wave the fee if it is declared a disaster on the actual day of the flight. She may be able to request a refund if a disaster is in fact declared on the 1st. Her travel agent also charged her a fee.

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    I think the jury is still out on whether Swampy airport will remain operational over the coming weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can123 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore View Post
    Where in toyland were you gunna stay?

    It's not everywhere.

    Yes, it is. Thailand is everywhere in Thailand, that's why it's called Thailand.
    No toyland is not everywhere!

    Just in special parts of Thailand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smug Farang Bore View Post
    Where in toyland were you gunna stay?

    It's not everywhere.
    Was gonna stay in BKK for 4 days, then Krabi for 4, then BKK for 3.
    (Yes, I know there's no flooding in Krabi.)

    It's just a matter of......do we want to fly 3,000 miles to potentially have a less-than-ideal vacation experience? Or shall we simply wait a few months 'til it drys out? That's that question we're dealing with.

    In BKK, we were going to stay on Sukhumvit at the WoraBuri Hotel for the first leg, then DS67 Suites for the second leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fareastcoastmover
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    Whats the matter? Can't you swim? Bangkok is a bit bigger than hicksville in Rednecksville.
    It's ALOT bigger than Hicksville, but only about 463 sq. miles larger than where I live now.

    And actually smaller than where I lived for 7 years before this.

    I can swim well enough. Just prefer not to do it in water-borne disease infested sewage, thank you very much.

    And certainly not pay money for the experience.
    Last edited by fareastcoastmover; 26-10-2011 at 01:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    The catastrophic flooding is in the lower Chao Praya basin.
    There is no flooding in Phuket, Pattaya and Ko Samui, neither should there be because rainy season is pretty much over.
    Unless your Thai holiday was to be basically a Bangkok holiday, I see no reason to call it off.
    Sabang,

    It was, somewhat. Except for the 4 days in Krabi in the middle part of it. A large part of the trip's purpose was to check out the city, visit the school we might be going to next year and look at potential living areas.

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    Personally, I'd wait and see what happens over the next 2-3 weeks before deciding. It's more like 8000 miles if you're on the US east coast too.

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    Why would you spend 7 days in BKK and only 4 in Krabi ? I would do exactly the opposite. Relax a week in Krabi and visit BKK for 3 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Ho View Post
    It's the lousy American carriers. My friend was coming on the 1st and United charged a $400 change fee! She mentioned the disaster situation and was told they they will only wave the fee if it is declared a disaster on the actual day of the flight. She may be able to request a refund if a disaster is in fact declared on the 1st. Her travel agent also charged her a fee.
    Don Ho,

    Sounds similar to what the person at Delta told me. Doesn't mean I'm not going to bitch and moan at them for it before inevitably forking over the money if I still want to go.

    Greed, I tell ya. Sheer greed. Maybe I should go up to Wall Street and sleep/shit on the sidewalk in protest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lostandfound View Post
    Personally, I'd wait and see what happens over the next 2-3 weeks before deciding. It's more like 8000 miles if you're on the US east coast too.
    You are right. I never was much of a mathematician. Had the round-trip mileage from Seoul-to-Manila stuck in my head after 7 years in Korea.

    8,000 miles. Long way to go for a swim.

    I am going to wait another few days before the final call, but November 6th is only 11 days away from now, so going to need to make the decision and flight changes soon. Also, hotel booking changes. Our BKK hotels were all already booked and paid for. At least we hadn't yet bought the mother-in-law's tickets from Manila yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallalai View Post
    Why would you spend 7 days in BKK and only 4 in Krabi ? I would do exactly the opposite. Relax a week in Krabi and visit BKK for 3 days.
    Good question. As I mentioned earlier, we are tentatively planning to move there next year and go to school in Bangkok, so we wanted to get a "feel" for the city during this trip.

    ...just didn't want such a "wet 'n slippery" feel.

    Well, unless it's coming from under the table at one of BKK's fine drinking establishments

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    Quote Originally Posted by fareastcoastmover View Post
    Good question. As I mentioned earlier, we are tentatively planning to move there next year and go to school in Bangkok, so we wanted to get a "feel" for the city during this trip.

    ...just didn't want such a "wet 'n slippery" feel.

    Well, unless it's coming from under the table at one of BKK's fine drinking establishments
    Sorry I saw your post to late. But you'll regret not to spend more than 4 days in Krabi. It's nice there. At least from what I remember 20 years ago.

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    im coming back november 30th, couldnt care less if i have to get a boat to ramkamhaeng, from the airport

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    Quote Originally Posted by fareastcoastmover
    It's just a matter of......do we want to fly 3,000 miles to potentially have a less-than-ideal vacation experience? Or shall we simply wait a few months 'til it drys out? That's that question we're dealing with.
    You should go on the planned date.

    If you truly want to live there it's best to see the place when it is 'stressed' so to speak, because if it's not one thing there (a coup) it's another (natural disaster, civil unrest, saber rattling with Cambodia, Song kran, etc).

    This current fubar situation will be a good introduction to life there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent_Smith View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fareastcoastmover
    It's just a matter of......do we want to fly 3,000 miles to potentially have a less-than-ideal vacation experience? Or shall we simply wait a few months 'til it drys out? That's that question we're dealing with.
    You should go on the planned date.

    If you truly want to live there it's best to see the place when it is 'stressed' so to speak, because if it's not one thing there (a coup) it's another (natural disaster, civil unrest, saber rattling with Cambodia, Song kran, etc).

    This current fubar situation will be a good introduction to life there.

    That's an interesting idea Agent S., another friend of mine who has lived there recommended the exact same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fareastcoastmover View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by fareastcoastmover
    It's just a matter of......do we want to fly 3,000 miles to potentially have a less-than-ideal vacation experience? Or shall we simply wait a few months 'til it drys out? That's that question we're dealing with.
    You should go on the planned date.

    If you truly want to live there it's best to see the place when it is 'stressed' so to speak, because if it's not one thing there (a coup) it's another (natural disaster, civil unrest, saber rattling with Cambodia, Song kran, etc).

    This current fubar situation will be a good introduction to life there.

    That's an interesting idea Agent S., another friend of mine who has lived there recommended the exact same thing.

    If you cannot deal with Thailand floods, critical protests, coups, record droughts, SARS or any of the other problems we have had here in Thailand recently it is best you stay where you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liveinlos View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by fareastcoastmover
    It's just a matter of......do we want to fly 3,000 miles to potentially have a less-than-ideal vacation experience? Or shall we simply wait a few months 'til it drys out? That's that question we're dealing with.
    You should go on the planned date.

    If you truly want to live there it's best to see the place when it is 'stressed' so to speak, because if it's not one thing there (a coup) it's another (natural disaster, civil unrest, saber rattling with Cambodia, Song kran, etc).

    This current fubar situation will be a good introduction to life there.

    That's an interesting idea Agent S., another friend of mine who has lived there recommended the exact same thing.

    If you cannot deal with Thailand floods, critical protests, coups, record droughts, SARS or any of the other problems we have had here in Thailand recently it is best you stay where you are.
    No thanks, I like living on the edge. And you're not keeping Thailand all to yourself! Nice try, but I'm on to you!

    How about almost as many violent homicides in my hometown in one year as there are days in the year? How about living in several war-zones for different periods of time where death could rain from above (mortars) or below (IEDs) on any given day?

    And SARS? Ha! I laugh in the face of SARS.

    In fact, I still remember the time I flew from Seoul to Manila back in January 2004---the height of the SARS "scare"---and I was standing in the Asiana check-in line wearing my "If you can read this, you probably now have SARS." (in very small print in the middle) T-shirt, and all the concerned looks I got from those standing in line around me, the check-in agents and those on my plane down to Manila. Fun times, haha.

    No, I think I'll find Thailand to my liking. Keeps you on your toes. That's what living is all about.

    Now, the wife on the other hand...............hahahaha

    I think some of the "old guard" here got the wrong impression about my post.

    It was more a rant about having to change my trip plans. And yes, the flooding situation is something I would like to avoid as a TOURIST on VACATION if possible. Things are a bit different when you live in a place and have a foothold; you can circle the wagons and muddle through it. But would you fly into such a mess on vacation if you didn't have to? And dragging two Filipinas along with you ontop of it? No thanks.

    But I'm still pissed at Delta Airlines for this $500 in change fees!!!!!!

    DOWN WITH DELTA!

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    Down with all the American cheapskate carriers.
    Last time I flew with a US carrier it was NorthWest from Glasgow to Boston, that was eight long years ago and after it I said it would never happen again
    Piss poor service and a piss poor cabin crew attitude as I said never again a US carrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fareastcoastmover
    I can swim well enough. Just prefer not to do it in water-borne disease infested sewage, thank you very much
    Why on earth not?
    And you could cross off 'swimming with crocodiles' from your bucket list at the same time. It's win win dude.

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    No need to cancel - just don't plan to stay in BKK - go straight to Phuket or Samui from the airport. Book a ticket in advance obviously.

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