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03-02-2011, 07:53 AM

I have not made my mind up as yet but the indicators seem to be pointing to Arsehole town.

I have read and looked at all the crap you come across on the internet about the great John Lennon.

When growing up I thought John was the cool Beatle compared to Paul.
But after reading his Ex wife's and Julians account of things Im starting to think
that if you are blessed with a certain genius then you are hampered by a lack of social common sense.

Morrissey

Michael Jackson

Johnny Cash

Jim Morrison

Bob Marley

Im an athiest,But If there was a God, I think he had one hell of a sense of humour !

03-02-2011, 07:59 AM

davearn · 03-02-2011, 08:49 AM

I have never heard that he was one although he had one, well two if you couint Yoko.

sabang · 03-02-2011, 09:00 AM

Yeh he could be a bit of an arsehole. But he was an interesting arsehole, and a damn good musical talent.

bobo746 · 03-02-2011, 09:08 AM

he's a decomposing arsehole now.

03-02-2011, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabang

Yeh he could be a bit of an arsehole. But he was an interesting arsehole, and a damn good musical talent.

That seems to be the general pattern,If you have something to give to the musical world you lack the publicity side of things ,Like it wasnt intended to be able boast about these things.

TizMe · 03-02-2011, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KOBRIEN

But after reading his Ex wife's and Julians account of things

ex-wives tend to not give the most endearing account of a person.

Davis Knowlton · 03-02-2011, 11:32 AM

Anyone with that much money who ends up with super slag Yoko has to be an asshole of the first order. And I also thought his music sucked.

03-02-2011, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TizMe

ex-wives tend to not give the most endearing account of a person

I have read her book aswell as load of other shit this week about J.Lennon.
So bored of the guy.
But he does come across as a wanker if you look deeper !

kmart · 05-02-2011, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Anyone with that much money who ends up with super slag Yoko has to be an asshole of the first order. And I also thought his music sucked.

Lennon took 6 bullets full in the chest. Yoko was standing right next to him, and not one round hit her..?

Chapman should have got another 3 life sentences just for that alone.

Loy Toy · 05-02-2011, 10:19 AM

He was a genuine musical genius, an everyday lad from Liverpool that had godlike adulation thrust upon him when he was still but a kid.

Of course this type of public scrutiny will change a blokes life and yes the kids of that time time did think more of the Beatles then they did of Jesus Christ or any other religion.

An arsehole?........I didn't know him personally so cannot judge but I know his music and his musical genius I will enjoy for the rest of my life.

Mid · 05-02-2011, 10:37 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8b7OUZhK7s

youtube.com

Bettyboo · 05-02-2011, 11:08 AM

Kobrien is not cool...

Loy Toy · 05-02-2011, 11:11 AM

One of my favourite Lennon songs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqP3wT5lpa4

Bettyboo · 05-02-2011, 11:13 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb2YSAVHmIE

Loy Toy · 05-02-2011, 11:18 AM

Most of us play Mind Games in real life and on this forum.

Great lyrics from Lennon here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dHUf...eature=related

The Muffinman · 05-02-2011, 12:06 PM

From what I've read and the doco's I've seen on John Lennon it does appear that there was a wankerish side to him. Wasn't much of a husband to Cynthia and even less of a father to Julian. I think most of it was caused by Lennons mother abondoning him when he was a kid and his father dumping him at his aunts.
Later on in life he did try to make up for his early mistakes by being a good father to Sean, think he took a few years off music to raise him. Perhaps maturing helped him see the errors of his ways
I can't help but wonder how any of us would have turned out if we had the kind of adulation that Lennon got from an early age. Would have been enough to turn most of us into unbearable twats.

taxexile · 05-02-2011, 12:06 PM

his finest hour as a songwriter.

Dailymotion - John Lennon - Working Class Hero.mpg - a Music video

kmart · 05-02-2011, 01:28 PM

I dunno. He died in the prime of his life and career. If he was still around today, he might be busy pissing all over his legend and musical legacy with crap records and money-grubbing concerts. Or appearing on reality tv shows / Toyota adverts.

Let him be.

Loy Toy · 05-02-2011, 01:37 PM

He had earlier in the day stopped and given Mark Chapman his autograph and had a friendly chat.

That person took Lennon and his words too seriously, just like that other maniac Charles Manson and the bastard killed off one of the true legends of music just when he was starting to contribute again.

taxexile · 05-02-2011, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Let him be.

i thought paul wrote that one ??

isanmick · 05-02-2011, 06:34 PM

Can't be too much of an asshole, He give me and many million others
eternal happiness with his music.
I remember the first time I met my thai brother-in- law, we were having a few beers
and he put on a John Lennon CD and from day on we both have enjoyed each others
music.

Rural Surin · 05-02-2011, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabang

Yeh he could be a bit of an arsehole. But he was an interesting arsehole, and a damn good musical talent.

Historically, eccentricity and unorthodoxy are grounds for damnation.....especially artists.

Eliminator · 05-02-2011, 09:00 PM

He had to be one of the first real PC nutters to hit the planet. Get over it, he's dead and can't complain about an EX writing about him.

blue · 05-02-2011, 10:00 PM

not many famous people stand up too well under the microscope

03-02-2011, 07:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
KOBRIEN Guest Posts: n/a	*Was John Lennon an AREHOLE** I have not made my mind up as yet but the indicators seem to be pointing to Arsehole town. I have read and looked at all the crap you come across on the internet about the great John Lennon. When growing up I thought John was the cool Beatle compared to Paul. But after reading his Ex wife's and Julians account of things Im starting to think that if you are blessed with a certain genius then you are hampered by a lack of social common sense. Morrissey Michael Jackson Johnny Cash Jim Morrison Bob Marley Im an athiest,But If there was a God, I think he had one hell of a sense of humour ! Last edited by KOBRIEN : 03-02-2011 at 09:11 AM.

05-02-2011, 12:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
The Muffinman Thailand Expat Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Klongsan Posts: 1,517	From what I've read and the doco's I've seen on John Lennon it does appear that there was a wankerish side to him. Wasn't much of a husband to Cynthia and even less of a father to Julian. I think most of it was caused by Lennons mother abondoning him when he was a kid and his father dumping him at his aunts. Later on in life he did try to make up for his early mistakes by being a good father to Sean, think he took a few years off music to raise him. Perhaps maturing helped him see the errors of his ways I can't help but wonder how any of us would have turned out if we had the kind of adulation that Lennon got from an early age. Would have been enough to turn most of us into unbearable twats. Last edited by The Muffinman : 05-02-2011 at 12:23 PM.

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isanmick Member Last Online: 15-02-2013 04:47 PM Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: sydney, nong han udon thani Posts: 294	Can't be too much of an asshole, He give me and many million others eternal happiness with his music. I remember the first time I met my thai brother-in- law, we were having a few beers and he put on a John Lennon CD and from day on we both have enjoyed each others music. __________________ อีสานมิก ขุนชัาง

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davearn Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 08:30 AM Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,592	I have never heard that he was one although he had one, well two if you couint Yoko.

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sabang Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 04:43 AM Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: There Posts: 23,672	Yeh he could be a bit of an arsehole. But he was an interesting arsehole, and a damn good musical talent.

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bobo746 My Job Here Is Done Last Online: 07-06-2013 07:01 PM Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Pak Thong Chai Posts: 8,102	he's a decomposing arsehole now.

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Davis Knowlton Philippine Expat Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Philippines Posts: 7,443	Anyone with that much money who ends up with super slag Yoko has to be an asshole of the first order. And I also thought his music sucked.

05-02-2011, 10:19 AM	#11 (permalink)
Loy Toy On a walkabout Last Online: Yesterday 11:23 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 21,148	He was a genuine musical genius, an everyday lad from Liverpool that had godlike adulation thrust upon him when he was still but a kid. Of course this type of public scrutiny will change a blokes life and yes the kids of that time time did think more of the Beatles then they did of Jesus Christ or any other religion. An arsehole?........I didn't know him personally so cannot judge but I know his music and his musical genius I will enjoy for the rest of my life.

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Bettyboo Member Last Online: 06-06-2013 01:25 PM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Bangkok Posts: 12,211	Kobrien is not cool...

05-02-2011, 12:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
taxexile Thailand Expat Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5,536	his finest hour as a songwriter. Dailymotion - John Lennon - Working Class Hero.mpg - a Music video

05-02-2011, 01:28 PM	#19 (permalink)
kmart Thailand Expat Last Online: Yesterday 04:41 PM Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Rayong. Posts: 4,477	I dunno. He died in the prime of his life and career. If he was still around today, he might be busy pissing all over his legend and musical legacy with crap records and money-grubbing concerts. Or appearing on reality tv shows / Toyota adverts. Let him be.

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Loy Toy On a walkabout Last Online: Yesterday 11:23 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 21,148	He had earlier in the day stopped and given Mark Chapman his autograph and had a friendly chat. That person took Lennon and his words too seriously, just like that other maniac Charles Manson and the bastard killed off one of the true legends of music just when he was starting to contribute again.

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Eliminator Thailand Expat Last Online: Today 08:29 AM Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,637	He had to be one of the first real PC nutters to hit the planet. Get over it, he's dead and can't complain about an EX writing about him.

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blue Molecular Mixup Last Online: Today 04:18 AM Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 54°N Posts: 6,635	not many famous people stand up too well under the microscope

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