Thread: Another coup by the peavelovers

Originally Posted by who

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by keda

No doubt the usual convoluted reasoning will kick in to justify it as retaliation for some contrived American interference and or action or inaction...nothing to do with a hijacked religion.

Don't be such a prick. Do you enjoy this kind of thing because it gives you an excuse to trot out your twisted reasoning? Don't you have any understanding at all about world affairs or world politics? Not everything has to do with America, or religion, you know, get over yourself. Must be very comforting to view the world in such simplistic terms. Sometimes, when I'm drunk and only for a microsecond or two, I envy your simplicity.

No understanding at all. It has nothing to do with the scourge, or any part of the islamic religion for that matter.

Btw, should we regurgitate the same ground we've been plodding through with no concensus for as long as I care to recall, so that your version of 'world affairs' and 'world politics' are clearly muddled each time allah's Finest score a victory in his/her/its name?

I suggest you get drunk more often.

Don't take offense, he didn't understand your post.

And who said you could speak for me, you halfwit?

Originally Posted by keda

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Bollox, get over yourself. It's never fun and games when innocent people are killed. It doesn't matter if they're an Afghan wedding party, bankers in New York, or hotel guests in Pakistan. Wherever they were and whoever killed them it's still evil, it's still wrong. You want to make some political point, to me that makes you as inhuman as the bombers, real people died - maybe their last thoughts were something as banal as wanting a sandwich or needing a piss and then they were blown apart or died in flames. I don't give a fuck about the rights and wrongs or the politics, if you think this proves a point about America or about Islam then you're as fucked in the head as the killers. This, as with all the other atrocities we've heard about over the last few years is purely and simply evil, what kind of a human being hears about an atrocity likes this and then says the people who died deserved it? How are you different than the cnuts who danced in the streets when they heard about 9/11? How can you even think about even one person dying like this and cold-bloodedly factor it into being a lesson for the pakis or anybody else? Repulsive!

Sorry doc, I may have read it wrong but it sure seems that you think once an atrocity such as this is posted there's little to nothing worth discussing. This isn't a newsroom!

Yes you are right that many innocent people have died and will continue to die in the name of allah, and whether or not that's palatable to me, you, or anyone else. And you are also right that these terrible things do not just happen by chance, each is both cause and effect, influencing and influenced by world events and world politics. That does not alter the fact that they're happening.

As to the pathological haters that persistently claim 911 and other victims of islamic terror 'deserve' it, especially if they're American or Jewish...sorry again, but that sort of thing has been an ongoing event on TD for as long as I've been here. While such things are repugnant to reason, I do not need to mention who the prime movers are because I suspect every poster with more than half a brain already knows who they are. Do these people 'deserve' at least a passing reprimand, or should they be tolerated because decent people not just on TD but around the world are already conditioned to expect no less from savages?

I believe there was a recent thread specifically asking if the US had it coming, and I do not recall much that could be rated as outrage from any of the usual suspects at such an inflammatory proposal. If you are aware of the thread in question, why do you think that is?

"...expect no less from savages?"

We westerners are held to a higher standard, which is as it should be.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Texpat

Half this board cheers when some American soldier gets his head blown off.

Link?

...The sooner you wimps grasp this concept...

According to that study posted on here the other day it's you that's the wimp/scaredy-cat, tough-guy.

There's a study on wimp/scaredy-cats ? I wonder what the title is.

Originally Posted by keda

May be a religious civil war, though some may argue in a muslim country religion and politics are too close to call.


We'll soon be given the alleged reason for this particular atrocity, and no doubt the cheerleaders will be backslapping each other for zealously agreeing that the US are ultimately to blame, conveniently falling for the misconception that atrocities committed in the name of allah, claimed as retaliation for an event or policy, have anything to do with the touted reasons.

hijacked religion

Originally Posted by Norton

My sympathy goes out to the families of those killed and best wishes for a speedy recovery to those injured. For our fellow TD members who have family in Pakistan this must be a particularly troubling event. Hang in there Machangezi. I hope all is well with your family.

Originally Posted by keda

May be a religious civil war, though some may argue in a muslim country religion and politics are too close to call.

Originally Posted by sabang

Most of these atrocities seem to originate from the northern tribal region of Baluchistan.

So far no organization has claimed responsibility for the attack. Assuming it originated from AQ in the tribal areas is likely and predictable.

The tribal areas have always and continue to the present to be a lawless region. During British rule the region was the same as it is now. A lawless uncontrollable area which the British did little or nothing to change. Since it's independence, the central government in Pakistan has taken the same approach as the British. That is, the governance and enforcement of rule of law in the tribal regions is left to the tribal chiefs.

Integrating the tribal regions into a nation ruled by "national" law means the removal of the tribal chieftains and their influence. A difficult and risky undertaking but one that must finally be addressed. If not resolved, the tribal region will remain as it has for nearly 200 years a breeding ground of discontent and a threat to the national security of Pakistan.

The central gov't of Pakistan should just declare the Northwestern Frontier Provence independant, much as the Romans did to England.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by machangezi

This inhumane act has CIA written all over it.

At first I thought the TeleTubbies are behind this


Ahhhhhh, the old muslim sorrow song. And Macha showing his true face again. Macha, I think you are also ready for such an terrible act. I don't trust you as far as I can throw my 2 door Samsung refrigerator.

Macha, a true muslim always ready for self-criticism.

Use the 4 click solution.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Ahh, forever the victim. And so angry too. But now you're victimization is palpable.

How many more Marriott's before you see who the bad guys are?

Twenty?

Thirty?

(Oh, that's right, it was the CIA )

PS: Most of the butchery of American Indians was done before America was a nation: hence Brits, Spainards, Frogs

...Most of the butchery of American Indians was done before America was a nation.

Now go slowly.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Originally Posted by Ant

how many Pakistanians have gone to 'your places and blown shit up'

You're stuck on that nationality thing, aren't you?

That's why we refer to AQ as AQ and not Yemenis or Algerians or Sudanese or Afghanis.

Responsible nations are intent on ridding the world of these fanatical muslim extremists who want to kill innocent civilians in their jihad, whatever passport they hold. Yes, even a yank or two among their ranks. You know, the ones that killed 40 Pakistanis yesterday ...

No nation, no uniforms, just a Koran and a cause.

Is this to difficult for you, Ant?

No nation, no uniforms, just a Koran Which they don't read or don't understand.

OR

hijacked religion

Originally Posted by Texpat

I'll slow it down for Ant. He's struggling.

And I'll ask you the same question again because as per you're shifting the posts:

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by Texpat

Listen, Achmed, we don't give a fuck about Pakistan. Do what you like. The problem occurs when you breed these AQ boys to come to our places and blow shit up. Yeah, we have a problem with that.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Originally Posted by Ant

how many Pakistanians or Pakistan based AQ operatives have gone to 'your places and blown shit up', Cletus?

You're stuck on that nationality thing, aren't you?

That's why we refer to AQ as AQ and not Yemenis or Algerians or Sudanese or Afghanis.

Responsible nations are intent on ridding the world of these fanatical muslim extremists, whatever passport they hold. Yes, even a yank or two among their ranks. You know, the ones that killed 40 Pakistanis yesterday ...

Is this to difficult for you, Ant?

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by keda

Btw, should we regurgitate the same ground we've been plodding through with no concensus for as long as I care to recall, so that your version of 'world affairs' and 'world politics' are clearly muddled each time allah's Finest score a victory in his/her/its name?

I suggest you get drunk more often.

I suggest that if you want to argue with me you read my posts so that you actually know what I'm saying. I do not support "Allahs Finest" or any other fanatic, I suggest you get your paranoid head out of your muslim-fearing ass and make an attempt to understand what people have written. I don't care about consensus with you or anybody else who can't be bothered making an attempt to see the big picture. I despise murderers, terrorists, and fanatics no matter whose side they're on but I want to know how they work, what they think, and why they do it. Not so they can be appeased or negotiated with but because knowing those things is a vital step on the way to wiping them out.

First off I would rather discuss than argue with you. If you feel argument is more constructive then the problem is yours not mine, though you can pretend it's mine if it makes you feel better.

Also, I never did suggest that you support allah's Finest, but will concede it makes you look good to imply I did because it gives you cause for outrage.

As to my 'muslim fearing ass', yes you are right and I'm very afraid, but more of an appointment with my dentist than anything allah or any of his followers could lob my way. Still, I can see that 'muslim fearing ass' rolls easily off the tongue and makes you sound as though you're making a valid point.

My real fear, if your post was more than bluster, is that our current crop of gutless leaders refuse to accept this phenomenon cannot be dealt with as a political issue, which is what they're best at, and that terrorists are terrorists and should be dealt with as terrorists, rather than enjoy the relative immunity of our criminal codes. Sending over the military to break a few heads may or may not be the best start, only time will tell, but this too is like pissing in a tornado.

Unless and until our leaders are prepared to acknowledge that we're in the early stages of a religious war by a religion that's been hijacked by it's elite, and with a submissive following, there is no hope at all and future generations will rightly revile us for being too fat and complacent to see the obvious. That is my fear.

I don't care about consensus with you or anybody else who can't be bothered making an attempt to see the big picture.

You've obviously made an attempt to see the big picture. What is the big picture as you see it?

Originally Posted by who

"...expect no less from savages?"

We westerners are held to a higher standard, which is as it should be.

True, it's what sets us apart from the savages, but it also leaves us weak and vulnerable.

Originally Posted by spiff

...but you Yids are just to stingy to gamble a single cent if your life depended on it.

That's what I like, a spark of intelligence.

Originally Posted by Who

The central gov't of Pakistan should just declare the Northwestern Frontier Provence independant, much as the Romans did to England.

The "Provence" is in France, seppo.

There are several Pakistani provinces in the North-West border region.

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Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by machangezi;769899 Why the fuck should Pakis kill Pakis just because you retards are paranoid? [/quote

Or else you would'nt be collecting billions of dollars from the west,

One can always play the yanks for a buck or two, but you Yids are just to stingy to gamble a single cent if your life depended on it.

Stroller is back !

Naa, at least it was possible to have a semi literate discussion/debate/shitsling with the troller when he was sober...this one's pathetic.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

Originally Posted by machangezi

Why the fuck should Pakis kill Pakis just because you retards are paranoid?

Or else you would'nt be collecting billions of dollars from the west,

It sounds funny coming from the richest beggars in the world.....

Originally Posted by keda

Naa, at least it was possible to have a semi literate discussion/debate.

You lack the intellectual capacity

Originally Posted by Keda

Unless and until our leaders are prepared to acknowledge that we're in the early stages of a religious war by a religion that's been hijacked by it's elite, and with a submissive following, there is no hope at all and future generations will rightly revile us for being too fat and complacent to see the obvious. That is my fear.

What a drivel of sh!t. A religion that has been hi-jacked by its elite.......but what is your problem with that?? I don't see Muslims invading the west ........it is you and as your leaders invading Muslim countries on false grounds and killing the masses.

BTW, the future generation will only think of you as a person only capable of running his mouth.

Originally Posted by Who

just a Koran Which they don't read or don't understand.

Do you understand or even know what is written in it?