Thread: New Honda Jazz - A fantastic car all round

I give up..Against stupidity even God fights fruit-less....

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

I never said the Vigo was quicker off the mark; it is geared for load pulling primarily. I said it was quicker than a Camry at speed on the motorways because of it's massive torque.

My buell puts out 30% more torque than my TLR but it sure in hell aint ever going to beat it, in anything

Originally Posted by Dalton

I give up..Against stupidity even God fights fruit-less....

The article proves what I was saying all along.

You are the stupid one for not following and comprehending the thread and my argument, instead preferring to try and boast about your Passat TDi.

Clown.

Don't know what rigger is on about, senility setting in no doubt.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Don't know what rigger is on about, senility setting in no doubt.

I probably not much older than you dick head, as for the senililty I think it must be the Heiny tins I am drinking out of.

Originally Posted by Rigger

I probably not much older than you dick head, as for the senililty I think it must be the Heiny tins I am drinking out of.

I'm 34, you?

For some reason I thought you were an elderly retiree.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Originally Posted by Rigger

I probably not much older than you dick head, as for the senililty I think it must be the Heiny tins I am drinking out of.

I'm 34, you?

For some reason I thought you were an elderly retiree.

I'm 37,
For some reason I thought you were a young dick head

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Originally Posted by Dalton

I give up..Against stupidity even God fights fruit-less....

The article proves what I was saying all along.

No, it does not.

Originally Posted by Rigger

I'm 37,
For some reason I thought you were a young dick head

What, you changed your mind?

Originally Posted by Fabian

Originally Posted by Rigger

I'm 37,
For some reason I thought you were a young dick head

What, you changed your mind?

I havent yet me helmet head mate

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Perhaps this article will educate Ant and Travelmate. Hope they bother to read it and actually understand they have been caught completely talking out of their rear ends here.

Did you read the article Tud? Truthfully?
The articles explains all is relative.
What it says at the end, the modern diesel is truly remarkable at the power it can achieve nowadays.
However sorry to say your Pickup will not beat the Camry.
Your diesel has more torque yes, but at a given lesser RPM. Therefore to put it into plain english for you. You have grunt but it runs out of steam fairly quickly.
The Camry is able to carry more steam and due to it more appropiate gearing suited for a highway driving will attain a higher speed than your pickup.
And I would like to point out, I have raced and driven against these pickups and beat them time after time. Actually it not that difficult. Just keep pedal to floor, wait for pickup to run out of steam usually around the 180km/h mark and the Camry continues to accelerate onward and into the distance.
Bye bye Pickup.
Case closed.

WTF is this argument all about, and what does it have to do with the Jazz?

A car's top speed will be based on a combination of its bhp, torque, and aerodynamics. The only way to find out is to compare performance figures alone (not the above three figures as there is no way to know which carries most weight) and actually race them.

Anyway, anyone driven a Honda Jazz lately?

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Higher torque makes a car accelerate faster

That was my point about torque all along.

*sigh*

What's the point in commenting if you haven't bothered following the thread and are only here to start another shitfight?

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

I said, and I'll repeat for the stupid people here, "I said it was quicker than a Camry at speed on the motorways because of it's massive torque".

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

We have established the Camry has a higher top end.

Seem to me, you have managed the art of argueing against yourself. Which is remarkable.
We have been having a debate which is faster at motorway speed. Finally you saw sense and conceded the Camry is indeed the car in front.

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

It's evident a lot of posters don't understand how torque affects driving and the performance of a modern turbo diesel vehicles.

Namely you.

Originally Posted by Smeg

Anyway, anyone driven a Honda Jazz lately?

Yes I bought one for the wife and find it great to drive after driving the pickup for 4 years, It,s a great little car and cant really fault it at the moment, other than the doors feel really cheap, I like the CD player set up with the controls on the steering wheel, I have only used the paddel sift a couple of times but seems to work well. Over all a great little car. I am only getting 15 KLM/Litre around town but I have a heavy foot. I will be intrested what it will be reading after the wife has been driving it

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Finally you saw sense and conceded the Camry is indeed the car in front.

I conceded the Camry had a faster top end in one of my very early posts.

Originally Posted by Travelmate

Namely you.

Nope. I've owned and driven several.

Originally Posted by Rigger

I am only getting 15 KLM/Litre around town

Thats pretty good. I averaged about 9 KM/Litre. (Camry)

Originally Posted by EmperorTud

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Higher torque makes a car accelerate faster

That was my point about torque all along.

*sigh*

What's the point in commenting if you haven't bothered following the thread and are only here to start another shitfight?

Making stupid comments is certainly your speciality Turdy

That was not your point at all, as usual you are twisting the facts by quoting only part of my post

So EmpTurd, you are saying that the torque makes the car quicker! The problem that people are having here is not that they are stupid, but they are having a problem as to exactly what you mean by "quicker"

That is a word that can have several meanings in terms of performance

It was completely your fault in the mis-use of English, and I was trying to clear up what was being said, not start a "shitfight". That seems to be your intent

so fuk off and keep your stupid comments where they belong

^ blah blah blah.

more stupid comments, but hardly an answer

as usual, Turdy blahs out

^ blah blah blah.

Seems like he does not know what to say to that.

Originally Posted by Fabian

Seems like he does not know what to say to that.

I thought blah blah blah was a perfect answer to DrAndy's drivel.