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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    I've been repeating over and over that Americans aren't the only targets.
    No just countries that support America. Your time is coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Breaking news of a truck bombing of the Islamabad Marriott, described by a senator as the Paki 911.

    Looks like excellent timing, Saturday evening during Ramadan.

    Another nice soft target falls to allah.


    I found the bomb attack on a mosque 10 days ago killing 20 people a much better donation towards allah. The plight to paradise, to all those virgins, should be a straight ticket with no delays. Since a mosque is your departing airport.


    1200 deaths the last 12 months makes Pakistan a potential winner for Martyr Price. I think Israel is loosing this one.

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    What is happening in Pakistan seems to me a low grade civil war that nobody wants to declare as such. Looks like it's about to get worse too.

    Not much more to say until we find out who did it, and for what alleged reason. Most of these atrocities seem to originate from the northern tribal region of Baluchistan. It may be significant that the target is a Marriott owned hotel, but the overwhelming majority of the victims are Pakistani, as the bombers would have well known- probably more significant that it is in the political capital.

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    May be a religious civil war, though some may argue in a muslim country religion and politics are too close to call.


    We'll soon be given the alleged reason for this particular atrocity, and no doubt the cheerleaders will be backslapping each other for zealously agreeing that the US are ultimately to blame, conveniently falling for the misconception that atrocities committed in the name of allah, claimed as retaliation for an event or policy, have anything to do with the touted reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda View Post
    Sorry doc, I may have read it wrong but it sure seems that you think once an atrocity such as this is posted there's little to nothing worth discussing. This isn't a newsroom
    There was nothing much to discuss from your OP, you have not provided enough info before going off on your usual "Peacelovers" and "the left will blame America" dance. LOL

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    My sympathy goes out to the families of those killed and best wishes for a speedy recovery to those injured. For our fellow TD members who have family in Pakistan this must be a particularly troubling event. Hang in there Machangezi. I hope all is well with your family.

    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    May be a religious civil war, though some may argue in a muslim country religion and politics are too close to call.
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    Most of these atrocities seem to originate from the northern tribal region of Baluchistan.

    So far no organization has claimed responsibility for the attack. Assuming it originated from AQ in the tribal areas is likely and predictable.

    The tribal areas have always and continue to the present to be a lawless region. During British rule the region was the same as it is now. A lawless uncontrollable area which the British did little or nothing to change. Since it's independence, the central government in Pakistan has taken the same approach as the British. That is, the governance and enforcement of rule of law in the tribal regions is left to the tribal chiefs.

    Integrating the tribal regions into a nation ruled by "national" law means the removal of the tribal chieftains and their influence. A difficult and risky undertaking but one that must finally be addressed. If not resolved, the tribal region will remain as it has for nearly 200 years a breeding ground of discontent and a threat to the national security of Pakistan.
    "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect,"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Integrating the tribal regions into a nation ruled by "national" law means the remov'al of the tribal chieftains and their influence. A difficult and risky undertaking but one that must finally be addressed. If not resolved, the tribal region will remain as it has for nearly 200 years a breeding ground of discontent and a threat to the national security of Pakistan.
    Ahem, when was Pakistan founded?

    The "discontent" in the tribal regions is a direct consequence of them falling under the sovereignity of Pakistan since the post-colonial border shuffle.

    Seems to me the problems have become aggravated since Pakistan got involved in the 'game' about Afghanistan, first in supporting the Mujaheddin (with US backing), then targeted itself as an US ally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiff
    Ahem, when was Pakistan founded?
    1947.

    Under British rule the current "tribal region" was known as the "northwest frontier" and definitely a part of the "empire". Under British rule, several uprisings occurred in the region. The British response was for the most part a hands off policy leaving the area in a state of lawlessness.



    Quote Originally Posted by spiff
    The "discontent" in the tribal regions is a direct consequence of them falling under the sovereignity of Pakistan since the post-colonial border shuffle.
    When Pakistan gained it's independence from British rule the tribal regions were deemed independent and the task fell to Pakistan to negotiate with the tribal leaders to become part of Pakistan. A peaceful agreement was reached within a year which made the tribal regions part of Pakistan. Nawt to do with "post colonial" border shuffles.


    Quote Originally Posted by spiff
    Seems to me the problems have become aggravated since Pakistan got involved in the 'game' about Afghanistan, first in supporting the Mujaheddin (with US backing), then targeted itself as an US ally.
    Agree. Up until the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 the tribal regions were "relatively" quiet under Pakistan's administration. The tribal region became the staging ground for resistance to the Soviets and the consequences were devastating to the regions economy. Not surprising they have now become a safe haven for AQ and the Taliban. History repeats itself.

    However, the fact remains, the Pakistani government is the only viable authority that can bring the rule of law to the region.

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    Ambassador among hotel bomb victims

    The Czech Republic's ambassador to Pakistan was among dozens killed in Saturday's suicide truck bombing at Islamabad's Marriott Hotel, police confirmed Sunday.

    Ivo Zdarek was one of at least 57 people known to have died in the blast, police superintendent Sheikh Zubair told CNN. Two Americans and a Lithuanian were also among the casualties, he said. Information on the other three foreigners was not available Sunday but a U.S. Embassy spokesman confirmed that all its diplomats were safe.

    Between 150 to 230 others were wounded in the attack.

    Zdarek, 47, had moved to Pakistan from Vietnam a month ago and was staying at the hotel, the Czech News Agency said. It attributed its information to officials at the Czech foreign ministry.....

    Most of the fatalities appeared to be drivers who were waiting with their cars outside the Marriott, and hotel staff -- most of them security guards, Geo TV's Mir said.

    Full Article- Ambassador among hotel bomb victims - CNN.com

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    This inhumane act has CIA written all over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon View Post
    ^ Also agree with DrBob.

    Benazir Bhutto's widow, Asif Zardari, fairly fresh outta the clink for corruption, is the new leader. Perhaps the bombings relate to him?
    He'll sell the country for the right amount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    They had it coming.
    Yeah, yeah. Same for the 9/11. Merikans had it coming big time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keda
    Looks like excellent timing, Saturday evening during Ramadan.

    Another nice soft target falls to allah.
    Would you like your daughter to be among the victims at this excellent timing? Tell me what the fuck do you mean by saying, "excellent timing" you cheap muppet?

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    CIA ...

    You had 'em in your back pocket and they bit you in the ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat
    I hope these stupid Pakis learn to realize the destruction they wreak is because they're too lame to stand up to the savages. If it takes a few hundred more suicide bombings around Karachi and Islamabad, so be it.
    If it takes ten more 9/11s to teach the Merikans a lesson then be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    CIA ...

    You had 'em in your back pocket and they bit you in the ass.
    What one can expect. They're Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Half this board cheers when some American soldier gets his head blown off.
    Link?

    ...The sooner you wimps grasp this concept...
    According to that study posted on here the other day it's you that's the wimp/scaredy-cat, tough-guy.

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    So Pakistan now wakes up to the fact they are harboring terrorists despite years of empty promises and wishful thinking. Ten billion American bucks squandered on new jets and fancy rockets -- none of which will help round up the terrorists, but allows them some semblance of parity with their Indian friends.

    And now they are hit themselves.

    Those AQ boys sure are some ungracious guests, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermanthegerman
    If you got intellectual muslim people like Macha blaming everything on the U.S. and Israel for their grievance, what the hell do you expect from those poor sobs that can't even read the Koran.
    Blaming everything on the US and Israel? You must be out of your fucking mind. Show me where I said that America and Israel are responsible for every mess in the world.
    There is NO hope for that region. Let's get out and don't let them in.
    Please. That's what they want. Get the fuck out of there. ......... What about the fucking oil?

    Speaking of blaming the US .... Operation Ajax, desert fox etc etc. Does it ring a bell, fuckwit?

    I thought Yids were the smartest of all. Oh well .... you must be the lowest of them.

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    Desert Fox? You remember that one? Me too. Ten years ago this December.
    The US, Britain and France were charged by UN mandate of enforcing the no-fly zones over Iraq. Iraqi Air Force and ground stations continually made offensive, threatening gestures (painting coalition jets w/ radar, threatening aerial moves, launching ordnance). They also brick-walled and hampered UNSCOM inspectors on the ground. After months of warnings, the coalition took out those air- and ground- based assets in a four-day operation. Pretty clean, swift, efficient operation. Very few subsequent infractions. Incidentally it ended on the first day of Ramadan. Seems DoD respects Islam more than AQ.

    What does that have to do with the CIA? Or Pakistan? Or AQ?
    Last edited by Texpat; 21-09-2008 at 06:32 PM.

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    So, Texpat you wan't the Americans to take charge of tribal areas? You want Americans to liberate Pakis from this evil cult called Taliban?

    You want Americans do liberate the Pakis like this ....



    Liberate eh? My fucking arse .... can't even steal wood in their own fucking country just because the big thieves are there with tanks and f22s.

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    nice clip macha.

    says it all about this mob really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    So, Texpat you wan't the Americans to take charge of tribal areas? You want Americans to liberate Pakis from this evil cult called Taliban?
    No, the world wants Pakistan to do it. Like they've been telling the world they would for so many years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by machangezi View Post
    So, Texpat you wan't the Americans to take charge of tribal areas? You want Americans to liberate Pakis from this evil cult called Taliban?
    No, the world wants Pakistan to do it. Like they've been telling the world they would for so many years.
    You mean butcher them like Americans butchered the native Indians? Sorry, we can't/wont' do it.

    If the world wants Pakistan to do it then the world need to tell America to fuck off. Stop installing puppets/dictators as leaders to protect their fucking interests. The American halfwits backed Musharraf (a dictator - I am guilty of supporting him) but when he failed to live up their expectations, the Mericunts switched sides. Now the Merikans are supporting a thug.

    Don't fucking expect them to stem out the terrorists from the tribal areas bordering Afghanistan because all the money will go to their personal bank accounts.

    You Americans need to grow some brains. You fuckwits don't even who's is the right person to be backed. You don't even know who your friend is. You fuckwits voted for the big fuckwit Bush twice.

    What should we expect from you retards?

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    Ahh, forever the victim. And so angry too. But now you're victimization is palpable.

    How many more Marriott's before you see who the bad guys are?

    Twenty?

    Thirty?

    (Oh, that's right, it was the CIA )

    PS: Most of the butchery of American Indians was done before America was a nation: hence Brits, Spainards, Frogs

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