Thread: NEW palin corruption scandal

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Ray's just pissed because nothing sticks to Palin. He's going completely nuts, quite funny actually.

Yeah...another Century Thread for the failed PhD candidate, eh?

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Ray's just pissed because nothing sticks to Palin.

The "Teflon Mom"

He's going completely nuts, quite funny actually.

We're going to need a new pathology to describe this radical aversion to real people.

Five Reasons Why The Smears Won't Work:

1. Sympathy. They started off with a vile rumor that Palin faked the pregnancy of her fifth child, then turned it into an attack on her 17-year-old pregnant daughter. The fake pregnancy rumor was false. Not only were they shockingly nasty and vicious, they were also wrong. They lost their credibility and created sympathy for Palin in the process. Palin has shown she doesn't want or need anyone's sympathy, but she got it just the same, thanks to those who sought to destroy her.


2. Sarah Palin has connected with the American people. 37 million people heard her speak, in her own words, without interruption or editing from the Obamedia. It will be harder to make a scandal stick to someone America feels they know. Who ya gonna believe? The witty, down-to-earth straight talker with the beautiful family and the inspiring life story or the slimy rumor mongers who already tried to feed you a pack of lies?


3. People want someone to work to solve their problems. Are they going to be more likely to have a good opinion of a campaign that is addressing the problems they have or the campaign that appears to be obsessed with tearing their opponent apart?


4. The Obamedia has been exposed. Over the past year or more the media have fawned over Barack Obama. Over the past week the media have hit Sarah Palin with dozens of accusations based on little more than nutty leftwing hate site rumors. Recent polls show over 50 percent of the American public believe the media is trying to hurt Sarah Palin.


5. They just don't know how to do subtle. Instead of picking one or two really good scandals, they are throwing scores of them out there willy nilly, without fact checking or even, in some cases, bothering to read them in their entirety. One example is the list of books Palin supposedly banned -- the problem is that many of the books on the list were not even published yet when Palin supposedly banned them. Another accusation was that Palin cut funding for pregnant teens. Those circulating that one evidently were not so good at reading or at math. The document they presented as proof, actually showed an expansion of the program, but that did not keep the accusation from being reported by the Washington Post and the New York Times. Yet another accusation was that Palin cut funding for special needs children. Not true, and easily debunked in a matter of minutes with a Google search, yet it also was widely reported as fact and was even cited by Soledad O'Brien on CNN."


Why the Smears Won't Work (Wizbang)


Heh...must try harder there ray-baby!

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Can't be arsed to look back to see whether the failed PhD candidate has accused Palin in the Bridge to Nowhere deal but here's a bit of interesting information...heh.

"Sen. Biden and Sen. Obama voted for funding the Bridge, even when given a second chance by Sen. Tom Coburn, who proposed shifting earmark funds to Katrina relief."

Chicago Daily Observer | Obama and Biden Voted for Bridge to Nowhere

What, what, what?!!!

^ The best part is that it's from a Chicago newspaper.

I doubt there is much mileage in this 'scandal'. OK, if it is the case that she has inflated her expenses it does erode her credibility as an anti-corruption reformer somewhat, but I doubt many votes hang on this particular issue.

Lets face it, if you've had an expense account, well who hasn't fluffed their expenses a little bit?

The big Issue Sarah is facing is Troopergate. Her credibility as a presumptive VP and potential Pres in waiting is shattered if she did in fact improperly remove an Alaskan government Commissioner- indeed, in these circumstances I fail to see how she could be allowed to continue as VP if the investigation is concluded after the election, and the GOP wins (doubtful imo ). One to watch- and perhaps it explains what seemed to me inordinately good odds in the betting market that she would be withdrawn from the VP nomination.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

ailed PhD candidate

it's amusing how much you want this to be true despite all the evidence to the contrary. and don't think it hasn't gone unnoticed that this sort of thing is yoru default response when you're (quite often) on the ropes.
but hey, keep it up....i enjoy it....kind of like when you were calling me 'red carey'...implying that i was a (gasp!) communist.
it's comical.
and at times, you're unintentionally comical.
but mostly you're just boring.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

The best part is that it's from a Chicago newspaper

actually the 'best part' is that you have no idea what you're talking about (again)...it's a radical conservative blog started last year.....hmmmm....quite the coincidence.

people like jet who are quite ignorant about most things related to american politics are just who they were trying to dupe into thinking it's a chicago based newspaper.

jet....get better informed, and stop being such a rube.

^ Chicago Daily Observer, ray, is a newspaper.

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Originally Posted by raycarey

...all the evidence to the contrary. .

Ah, well, please elucidate us on the progress of your 'thesis' then ray-baby!

Originally Posted by raycarey

ANCHORAGE - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has billed taxpayers for 312 nights spent in her own home during her first 19 months in office, charging a "per diem" allowance intended to cover meals and incidental expenses while traveling on state business.

The governor also has charged the state for travel expenses to take her children on official out-of-town missions. And her husband, Todd, has billed the state for expenses and a daily allowance for trips he makes on official business for his wife.

The governor's daughters and husband charged the state $43,490 to travel and many of the trips were to and from their house in Wasilla and Juneau, the capital city 600 miles away, the documents show.

She wrote some form of "Lodging -- own residence" or "Lodging -- Wasilla residence" more than 30 times at the same time she took a per diem, according to the reports. In two dozen undated amendments to the reports, the governor deleted the reference to staying in her home but still charged the per diem.

Palin charged the state a per diem for working on Nov. 22, 2007 -- Thanksgiving Day. The reason given, according to the expense report, was the Great Alaska Shootout, an annual NCAA college basketball tournament held in Anchorage.

not only does this woman fire the guy who wouldn't fire her ex-brother in law, but it seems she's also dipping into public funds.

christ almighty, she took a per diem for dinner (IN HER OWN HOME) on 312 out ~570 days in office.....and she calls herself some sort of reformer?

and then the citizens of alaska are paying to fly her kids all over the country? i wonder if that 17 year old got knocked up while joining the mile high club on the taxpayer's dime?

too bad for mccain that he didn't take the time to vet her.

Palin's expense reports under scrutiny - Washington Post - MSNBC.com

Gov't per diem is payed when an employee is away from their place of work over night and not on vacation.

^Ray wouldn't want to let Facts get in the way of a good smear though, would he?

Well since she works in state capital, and her home is in Wasilla I dare say thats why she was paid per diem.

Originally Posted by who

Gov't per diem is payed when an employee is away from their place of work over night and not on vacation.

Her home is her place of work? I didn't know that.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Ray wouldn't want to let Facts get in the way of a good smear though, would he?

The facts are she charged the state of Alaska per diem 312 days when she was in her home.

Originally Posted by britmaveric

Well since she works in state capital, and her home is in Wasilla I dare say thats why she was paid per diem.

Eh????

This makes me a bit curious. A nice Mansion is provided rent free for the Governor by the State of Alaska. It is located in Juneau, the capital of Alaska- conveniently close to her place of employment.



Per diem payments or not, why is Gov. Palin spending most of her working year away from the Capital- where she has the additional benefit of a nice house provided for her and her family- and instead charging the people of Alaska extra for working from home, 600 miles away?

As Governor, isn't her main place of employment the state capital, or is it considered a part time job?

Why work in town when you can stay home with your kids, get paid and claim extra travel expenses? - putting the country first. LOL

Originally Posted by spiff

Why work in town when you can stay home with your kids, get paid and claim extra travel expenses? - putting the country first. LOL

Actually I think this is a big reason the blue team have not been making much noise about this – mom choosing to stay home with the kids. I have not heard Obama or Biden comment (they might have but I have not sen anything). Attempting to jump here on this might not go down to well with the working mothers. She has the chance to sleep at home with her kids and is doing so. Why uproot the kids from school?

I think you’ll find that a number of governors spend a considerable amount of time at their family home as opposed to the governors mansion – if they have kids that are still school age.

Note, while she does get travel expenses to travel to/from Juneau/Wasilla, the per diem that I think most people have an eye on is related to food and lodging.

"Arnold Schwarzenegger and his family currently live in their 11,000-square-foot home in Brentwood, Ca. He does not have a home in Sacramento. However, whenever he is in the state capitol, he lives in the Hyatt Regency hotel suite. The suite costs about $65,000 a year." wiki

I think you'll find many senators, governors and congressmen have fuzzy living arrangements.

Originally Posted by Bugs

Note, while she does get travel expenses to travel to/from Juneau/Wasilla, the per diem that I think most people have an eye on is related to food and lodging

That's right. Food and lodging for playing with her children at home? Many a single mom would be grateful for the privilege.

per diem is a fixed amount, you can do what you want with it.

Originally Posted by Texpat

"Arnold Schwarzenegger and his family currently live in their 11,000-square-foot home in Brentwood, Ca. He does not have a home in Sacramento. However, whenever he is in the state capitol, he lives in the Hyatt Regency hotel suite. The suite costs about $65,000 a year." wiki

I think you'll find many senators, governors and congressmen have fuzzy living arrangements.

The states all have different rules and per diem amounts, but then again they have different situations. Some are indeed fuzzy and some incumbents game the system.

Originally Posted by Bugs

As governor her offical duty station is Juneau, but her family home is in Wasilla. Therefore any time she stays at her home she is actually concidered traveling by the state, and thus allowed to charge per diem. .

Dunno on that one. Thats normally called "going home afer work" - and transportation costs for going home and meals while there are covered in that other payment - you know the one - its called a salary.

Originally Posted by Texpat

"Arnold Schwarzenegger and his family currently live in their 11,000-square-foot home in Brentwood, Ca. He does not have a home in Sacramento. However, whenever he is in the state capitol, he lives in the Hyatt Regency hotel suite. The suite costs about $65,000 a year." wiki

I think you'll find many senators, governors and congressmen have fuzzy living arrangements.

Right, Tex, but don't try to explain that to these folks on a 'Mission' to dig up any pathetic scrap of seemingly innocuous material with which to damage this gal. Best of luck to 'em as they are just making themselves look even stupider. Case in point: raycarey's screeds

Because many have "fuzzy living arrangments", it is ok to claim travel related expenses while one stays at home?