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    If anyone bothered to read the WHOLE story, there were very conflicting accounts of the incident.

    For the lefties here, anything the US states is all lies and anything Ali, cousin to the local Taliban leader, tells a left wing reporter is gospel truth.

    Anyone with any sense knows the US Army does not target civilians and tries to avoid civilian deaths, also anyone with any sense knows that fighting where good guys and bad guys are not all wearing easily identifiable uniforms will lead to different interpretations of who has actually been killed in an exchange.

    I wasn’t there, and media reports are conflicting, so it is difficult for me to be assured of what happened.

    But not the lefties. If someone somewhere said Americans did a bad thing, it must be true, so goes the thinking of the die hard lefties found here.

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    ^ True, AA. What would the lefties do if Bambam became prez? Who would they turn their hateful beady eyes on then? Japan? Russia? The thing is, they've enjoyed bashing America for so long, they'd likely have to go into therapy to treat their withdrawal symptoms.
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    If there were any gay minorities among the terrorists, the libby-left might be moved toward supporting them like RC and Aunty.
    But there are many, Tex. What do those guys do before they get their arranged marriages, other than playing around with sheep, of course?

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    I fail to see why folks even respond to blatant troll thread like these (never mind my post I am drunk). No one wants innocent children or adults to die in war time or peace time – no one (well maybe a few nut cases). But in war it happens. No excuses – it happens.

    Yes, it is a shame. No we don’t want to see more of it happen. Some folks think the end to all war is the answer – they will no doubt still be waiting for the end of all wars right around until the end of human kind. Does that make their plight any less valid? No. But does it make their plight any more realistic? No.
    "Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion" - Steven Weinberg

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    Mods, can this topic be moved to the Middle East forum?

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    Please don't tell me another goat grazing range argument resulted in an Afghani calling in a US air strike on his neighbor one village over. Get the US to do it and blame them. The US can be on the receiving end of a 1000 year vendetta celebrated monthly lest anyone forget.

    Quote Originally Posted by Texpat View Post
    The reason they pre-emptively attacked the US was (wasn't so secretive -- Embassies, Cole, Khobar Towers) Clinton was just in denial).

    because the west had a presence in their holy land, S.A. Mecca was under siege. Some nutter attained cult status convincing a bunch of dirt farmers their way of life might be threatened by worldwide connectivity, human rights, woman's protectionism, fair trade, respect for law ...

    Yeah, they didn't much like that idea.
    You're absolutely right tex. None of those things are useful to a society based on brute force and gang violence.


    None of the leftoes here chose to believe the Taliban and those they have intimidated with death and torture would ever use the media to engage in propaganda warfare. It's all true from them and all lies from us. Us being the camp the leftoes comfortably and safely sleep in at night and criticize during the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attaboy View Post
    None of the leftoes here chose to believe the Taliban and those they have intimidated with death and torture would ever use the media to engage in propaganda warfare. It's all true from them and all lies from us. Us being the camp the leftoes comfortably and safely sleep in at night and criticize during the day.
    The same Taliban that the US supported you mean. Just like they supported Saddam or any one of the other dictators they helped prop up because it suited them at the time. Just how many democratically elected governments has the US had a hand in toppling now anyways?

    You're absolutely right tex. None of those things are useful to a society based on brute force and gang violence.
    You're absolutely right atta.

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    Ok Ant... tell us how the USA supported the Taliban. Include the links.... Here's my link.

    Birth of the Taliban
    Afghan refugees did not rush to return to their homeland from Pakistan after the Soviet troops have been withdrawn. The Taliban has been born exactly there, among the mujahed veterans, many of whom have been studying in theological schools at the time. The name itself means “students”. When the international community has almost completely forgotten Afghanistan, the talibs thought they could be the only force that could still bring peace to their home. After prolonged discussions, they have created a program with clear goals and yet unclear means. They were going to restore peace, disarm the population, and realign the social life with the Islamic customs. Muhammed Omar has been elected as the leader of the movement. He was 35 at the time.

    They got lucky with the means, however. Pakistani authorities had their own reasons to support the Taliban. Trade with Central Asia was seriously disrupted by the impossibility to send goods overland through Afghanistan. Hikmetyar controlled the border crossings in Southwestern Afghanistan and forced the goods being reloaded from Pakistani trucks to the Afghan ones. And gangsters would then hijack the trucks along the route. The Pakistanis were ready to support any force that could guarantee safe passage of the shipments.
    http://www.zharov.com/afghan/taliban.html

    So the USA supported the mujahadeen. The Taliban didn't exist yet.

    How many of those democratically elected governments had an honest election? And how many of them were communist? Let's separate those out. I'll be damned if we should have let communism spread. We've seen the Soviet and Chinese models and they would have been the benefactors of the nascent communist satellites. It was a game of chess and the correct side won. Whine about it, write a book about it and theorize the evil of it. It doesn't sell in the real world where really bad people seek to dominate and brutalize others.

    Tell us how the ugly USA aborted the maturation of the Soviet Union. Tell me how the Soviet Union never had a chance to blossom from a country subjected to a leadership of paranoid murdering criminals. Tell me how long the rest of the world and its peoples should have suffered while the Soviet criminals got their act together and dropped the knives the leadership had at each others backs. The fking Dance of the Rats; all of them circling with their knives at the next man's back, paranoid out of their minds, murdering before being murdered. How long does it take humans to settle down in that kind of environment?

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