Thailand : Protester arrested for lese majeste

**friscofrankie** · 25-07-2008, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by paulsmithson

Wow so many farangs here with a totally bad attitude to Thailand and its people.
I would suggest to you that corruption is certainly endemic in the Uk and possibley also throughout the western world.

The king here is the one unifying factor for most of the people and having seen many of the outstanding efforts he has made to improve the lives of the Thai people their love for him is well deserved.

I pity this wonderful man who really cares for his people and must be hurting very badly and seriously worried about the future of his country.

For anyone to talk as badly about him as I am told this woman did is beyond belief for me---she should be locked away for a long time.

Your protestations of admiration, and pity(?), for the Monarch notwithstanding, I have to say, Bullshit. To be "locked away for a long time" for criticizing a public figure? The Lese Majeste laws are proof this country has yet to lose that Feudal mentality. For what it's worth, you could construe the use of this law as a violation in, and of, itself; with the Royal attitude towards the law and his own call for repeal.

I find it sad that this discussion has degraded into a few morons making it a "Thailand, love it or leave it" type debate. Simple fact his THE PM is using lese majeste to silence opposing viewpoints and the power structure within any opposition he or his party faces.

So. We not only have the top politico in the country using lese majeste law against the monarch's own wishes (lese majeste violation in spirit is it not?) But using it to silence political opposition.

The Issue at hand should not be what was said by the accused, rather the blatant effort to silence the opposition and why he deems calling up this draconian law to do so necessary. Sadly, the majority of the population's interest will end up much the same place as this discussion; where the "terrible things" said are more important than the motivations and underhanded behavior of ol' Frog Face himself.

**Bubba** · 25-07-2008, 01:57 AM

The more I hear from the PAD and the more I see lese majeste being used in Thailand, the more my once considerable respect for the Thai monarchy crumbles.

God knows I have no love for Thaksin and his kleptocractic ways, or the bunch of gangsters and thieves who make up the Samak government, but they were elected, with a comfortable majority, because Thaksin was the only Prime Minister who ever showed any consideration to the rural voters whatsoever. The democrats, the people who make up the PAD and Bangkok just want the rural people of Thailand to shut up, behave themselves and keep sending a steady supply of cheap rice and workers to serve the wealthier Bangkokians.

Originally Posted by FF

Simple fact his THE PM is using lese majeste to silence opposing viewpoints

I'm not sure this is quite true, though I'm sure both sides of the current political clusterfuck have had fun throwing LM charges at one another. The ones that have gained most media attention, though, are Jonathan Head of the BBC, and (can't remember his name) Jakarapop (?) and the speech he made at the foreign correspondents club. The PAD seized this issue to beat Samak over the head with, as Jakrapop was a member of his cabinet. The PAD have written into their proto-facist recommendation for changes in Thai poltical system that a military coup ('intervention') would be justified if the government fails to act on lese majeste.

This new arrest is Samak covering his arse so that he won't be faced with a similar situation.

**Agent_Smith** · 25-07-2008, 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by friscofrankie

For what it's worth, you could construe the use of this law as a violation in, and of, itself; with the Royal attitude towards the law and his own call for repeal.

Good point FF. Basically, His Highness has stated that he would like the lese majeste law repealed. So, anyone who tries to enforce the law is, well, committing lese majeste now aren't they? They are insulting the monarchy by not abiding by its wishes.

**EmperorTud** · 25-07-2008, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

Good point FF. Basically, His Highness has stated that he would like the lese majeste law repealed. So, anyone who tries to enforce the law is, well, committing lese majeste now aren't they? They are insulting the monarchy by not abiding by its wishes.

If he really wanted the law gone it would be gone tomorrow.

Fact is it is another great tool for the Palace propaganda machine.

pepino · 25-07-2008, 09:16 AM

I guess my post was deleted or something.

Didn't think that sort of thing happened here but I guess it does...

**Whiteshiva** · 25-07-2008, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by KunJackpot

So that We humble ignorant fools might be enlightened!

In your case that is probably asking for too much. I personally think you should settle for shutting up and staying ignorant.

pepino · 25-07-2008, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by KunJackpot

RE : PEPINO Your earlier offensive remark to "THE BIG GUY" of this fair nation
Was removed Thankfully to the Mediators.

Those of us who saw it would surely know:
NOW THAT readers is What We WOULD Call Lese Majeste! And if this one were'nt
cowering behind anonimity he would Definitely be Begging for THE King's Gracious Pardon from the BKK Monkey House!
You ARE NOT Brave just Ignorant! And Hateful and Bitter! If You Can't stand the fire, Piss of back to the Pond!
I Thai take offense to Your Criminal Languge! I hope the administrators would cut You off NOW! And Should the DECENT people Here Be Aware that this SITE was shut down because of YOU PEPINO.That they would seek YOU out in Samui and STOMP Your Ass!Know WE cannot talk bad about one thing in My Land But are Free to Speak of ANYTHING ELSE! You ARE A COWARD AND SHIT STAIN on HUMANITY!
You Should have Been an ABORTION!
ALL Intelligent Travellers and Expats know:" When in ROME......"
But thankfully I believe in "Instant Karma"!

No violence please

**Ivor Biggun** · 25-07-2008, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

Good point FF. Basically, His Highness has stated that he would like the lese majeste law repealed. So, anyone who tries to enforce the law is, well, committing lese majeste now aren't they? They are insulting the monarchy by not abiding by its wishes.

You could say the same thing about the police. They are The Royal......... Force. So when taking back handers they are acting on behalf of the ..........

**KunJackpot** · 25-07-2008, 11:19 PM

Sorry, I don't recall directing ANY thought or contact in your direction.
Or perhaps You are a Vulcan.Attempting some sort of "Mind Warp"Engagement?
Too Much Star Trek!You sound like a pubescent 15 year old trapped in a fossils body!
And Uh, "I'll Sleep when I'm Dead"!

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

probably asking for too much. I personally think you should settle for shutting up and staying ignorant.

**killerbees** · 26-07-2008, 12:28 AM

This dude is the unabashed king of non-sequitors, seriously. I mean, I'm trying to figure out just what in the hell he/she's talking about here but it's lost on me. Vulcan? Scientologist? That don't make me no nevermind, as my grandfather used to say.

**dirtydog** · 26-07-2008, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by KunJackpot

I Thai take offense to Your Criminal Languge! I hope the administrators would cut You off NOW! And Should the DECENT people Here Be Aware that this SITE was shut down because of YOU PEPINO.

You are full of shite and stoopid to add to that, this is an expat forum for foriegners living in Thailand, not for idiot Thais that thinking blocking Thailand from viewing an American site in Thailand is a good thing, nobody gives a fok about Thailand, it is a tiny little non entity of a country that quite a few farangs live in, that is it, Thailand hasn't invented shite all, it has done nothing to international markets, it is just some tiny little country that expats live in for a while, get over yourself you fool, hey did youtube give a shite when Thailand banned it? of course they didn't, get over it, Thailand is a nothing country when it comes down to the big stuff.

**KunJackpot** · 26-07-2008, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Originally Posted by KunJackpot

I Thai take offense to Your Criminal Languge! I hope the administrators would cut You off NOW! And Should the DECENT people Here Be Aware that this SITE was shut down because of YOU PEPINO.

You are full of shite and stoopid to add to that, this is an expat forum for foriegners living in Thailand, not for idiot Thais that thinking blocking Thailand from viewing an American site in Thailand is a good thing, nobody gives a fok about Thailand, it is a tiny little non entity of a country that quite a few farangs live in, that is it, Thailand hasn't invented shite all, it has done nothing to international markets, it is just some tiny little country that expats live in for a while, get over yourself you fool, hey did youtube give a shite when Thailand banned it? of course they didn't, get over it, Thailand is a nothing country when it comes down to the big stuff.

Now That's some well needed "Peace and Understanding"!
You have a prison mentality(Been in too long and think you own your cell!)
Without "Thailand" No Forum!No Place for Fossilized Gays to find Young pretty lady boys!
I truly hope YOUR depraved Thinking is not representive of ALL or most farang
living in Thailand. A "Forum" is free for all to join!Or?
Thailand does'nt need to "invent" stuff.It IS an ancient Culture.Existing LONG before Monkey brained Morons floated across a "Lake" Murdered another ancient Culture they did'nt understand and named it after a Man called Vespuci.

Thailand has Produced world class crafts (The Best Copys as well!) And has to it's credit exported "Hospitality,service and Cuisine".
Learn something instead of being so primitive.Thailand DID NOT Block any web sites.The Army (Coup de Ta) did.Thai Industry has long Been Making YOUR cheap Clothing.(Your probably wearing some Copy "Polo" or Levis" daily!)The Wealthiest of Thailand DO Rank in some of the top 100 on Your Forbes listings.ShinCorp,Thai Beverages ect.
Many Farang live in Thailand For Ever!Happily! So quit whining about Thailand and her People! If You don't like It or Us,Go and be Happier in your Homeland!

Thai's Like to chat in English and we are curious about our liknesses and differences.It is easy for You it seems to hide and talk Bad Mouth about the Land and People YOU CHOSE to live in (For a "bit").But You Do nothing to Bring people closer together in the world.The Opposite!You Cause a growing apart or even anger.Not Good!
You Cook(Probably have a restarant making money illegally.To cheap to get a work visa),You Live in Pattaya,Your Farang(White),Your Beligerant,have a Rotwieler dog.and Illiterate(More than this "Idot"Thai!)And You call Thais Stupid Idots?

**gjbkk** · 26-07-2008, 09:39 AM

Khun KunJackpot Thailand is not a bad little country but its people are not well educated for a reason.

Can you name me any great Thai inventions?

Thailand DID NOT Block any web sites.The Army (Coup de Ta) did.

The Thais have been and are deliberately been kept ignorant; the internet is a threat to the old powers and this is why they fear it so much.

The truth is a threat!

list of website censorship in 2008
2Bangkok.com - Website censorship in Thailand

**good2bhappy** · 26-07-2008, 09:44 AM

is Khun Jackpot for real?
Thailand is an ancient culture?
How ancient?
It was ruled by the Khmer upto the 13th century or so!

**panama hat** · 27-07-2008, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Whiteshiva

Originally Posted by KunJackpot

So that We humble ignorant fools might be enlightened!

In your case that is probably asking for too much. I personally think you should settle for shutting up and staying ignorant.

Hang on, Whiteshiva . . . he's admitting to being an ignorant fool . . .

**Texpat** · 27-07-2008, 08:46 PM

Where did all these loonies suddenly come from?

It's like someone turned the light on in a cockroach-infested kitchen. They're everywhere.

**panama hat** · 27-07-2008, 10:01 PM

Calling Blackgang a loony is a bit harsh . . . plus he's been here a while

**Norton** · 27-07-2008, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Texpat

Where did all these loonies suddenly come from?

The nearest bar. Check some of the post times.

**killerbees** · 27-07-2008, 10:40 PM

[quote=KunJackpot;702848][quote=dirtydog;702767]

Originally Posted by KunJackpot

Without "Thailand" No Forum!No Place for Fossilized Gays to find Young pretty lady boys!

Anybody here ever visit Fat Chicks in Party Hats?

I have a feeling (indeed, I hope) that this is all an elaborate wind-up. Reminds me of the Kim Jong Il character from "Team America."

"Fuck you, Hans Blix!"

**Scooter** · 28-07-2008, 02:23 AM

Its all good stuff ,keep it coming please

**panama hat** · 28-07-2008, 04:05 PM

I know i shouldn't bother . . . but . . .

Originally Posted by KunJackpot

Now That's some well needed "Peace and Understanding"!
You have a prison mentality(Been in too long and think you own your cell!)
Without "Thailand" No Forum!No Place for Fossilized Gays to find Young pretty lady boys!
Interesting observations for someone you know nothing about . . . and No Thailand, the world would be minus millions of Thai women selling their bodies because their country allows it and doesn't offer any alternatives I truly hope YOUR depraved Thinking is not representive of ALL or most farang
living in Thailand.
Of course it is not, but many things are similar for many, many foreigners living in Thailand. Sadly very many people here are greedy, self-centred, lazy and happy to live off someone else - anyone; foreigner, wife, parents . . . A "Forum" is free for all to join!Or?
Yes and no. It is privately owned and therefore NOT free for all and sundry Thailand does'nt need to "invent" stuff.
Lucky then . . . because it hasn't - simply not interested in development, rather copy and steal It IS an ancient Culture.
Please tell us what 'ancient' means.
Existing LONG before Monkey brained Morons floated across a "Lake" Murdered another ancient Culture they did'nt understand and named it after a Man called Vespuci.
Thais floated across a lake????
Thailand has Produced world class crafts
Sex does not count, nor do t-shirts and cd and dvds - which are shocking quality (The Best Copys as well!) And has to it's credit exported "Hospitality,service and Cuisine".
Exported many women in prostitution - is that what you eman by hospitality and service?
Cuisine - well, I prefer Japanese, Vietnamese etc . . . but yes, many people do like Thai cuisine Learn something instead of being so primitive.Thailand DID NOT Block any web sites.The Army (Coup de Ta) did.
Oh dear - you are seriously mistaken, but typical Thai - no clue as to what goes in in your own country and not wanting to know the truth. Thai Industry has long Been Making YOUR cheap Clothing.(Your probably wearing some Copy "Polo" or Levis" daily!)
One word: China!
The Wealthiest of Thailand DO Rank in some of the top 100 on Your Forbes listings.ShinCorp,Thai Beverages ect.
Yes, amazing what keeping a population dumb and uneducated does for one's bank accounts
Many Farang live in Thailand For Ever!Happily!
Statistics or just typical Thai lies to make you feel better? Thai's Like to chat in English
Thais can't speak English to save their lives and we are curious about our liknesses and differences.
Thais cannot handle the truth, therefore filter out any negatives said about their country, like the fact that it was overlorded several time sin its history - colonialised.
You Cook(Probably have a restarant making money illegally.
Hahahaha, a Thai complaining about foreigners working illegally - luckily there are not millions of Thais trying to escape the country to get a better life elsewhere . . .working illegally in many cases.
cheap to get a work visa),You Live in Pattaya,Your Farang(White),Your Beligerant,have a Rotwieler dog.and Illiterate(More than this "Idot"Thai!)And You call Thais Stupid Idots?
At least you know yourself well enough to call yourself an idiot - well done, it is refreshing to hear such honesty from a Thai

**BugginOut** · 28-07-2008, 04:39 PM

Thanks, Panama. Now I don't have to say anything, except if he doesn't like it...GO BACK TO YOUR OLD FORUM!

Oh, and Japan trounced on you pansies.

**Ivor Biggun** · 28-07-2008, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by killerbees

Anybody here ever visit Fat Chicks in Party Hats?

Yes and I wish I hadn't.

**KunJackpot** · 29-07-2008, 10:43 AM

First: I changed avatar!I understand "penis/pushy" is more of intrest here then
"politic/culture"!
(PanamaSplat, i must agree with 50% of what You say.but should we all just axcept it or work on change? "Culture" is over 2000 years old here. And has nothing to do with polotics or civi;l rule. It comes from King Asoke,Srilanka and India/hindus)

Yor obviusly a majoraty of semi to hard core bigotts here.Sad VietNam era rejects.
who, in old age got enough insurance money to live a good "sex tourist" life here.
Pretending your a rich "Eagles" superstar on a HarlyDavison copy(Phantom).
Not so unlike the "Thais" You all speak of: Living off You fellow countrimen.Bumping girls/little boys in Thailand while you country peoples insurance pais for it!Garbage!

At least your countries are get "Rid" of You.Pattaya! The toilet of the world.Were
west countries "Flush all their SHIT".

And Lastly your Respect for Humans:You make a buch of rules around this"Forums"(joking?"Broken brain losers Circle jerk?")And Can not follow them yourselfs. Sad! Flaming abusing and foul speach on people who just want to be a part of a "Forum" and talk about ideas and other stuff.

This a quoted message from the sickest brain i see writings dirtydog(nuts):

Dear KunJackpot,
dirtydog has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled

---Quote (Originally by KunJackpot)---
You Cook(Probably have a restarant making money illegally.To cheap to get a work visa),
---End Quote---

Shut your foking trap you foking moronic foking fool, you dumb Thais are a blight on the foking world, learn the facts then open your gob you foking fokwitt.

Is theis the lost sperm of Adolf Hitler? I understand wy farang cuntries give these broken brained types "Siko monies".So they will go away to the "World Toilet"!
Life in any contrys is happier without psyko people in it!

So do go on "pretending" You are Don Henly!And You are Good People! But WE know most of You are Just like Most of us! Greedy,Sick,frustrated morons.Looking for a free ride and a cheap thrill.
"HIV AIDS is: never having to say Your Sorry!" Die a slo and inhumane death! When in Rome........

**good2bhappy** · 29-07-2008, 12:56 PM

^ whose alternative nik?

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