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Old 23-07-2008, 04:35 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Some points that I've witnessed below. Latent, but they exist. People look around at their peers, often people they don't know, eyeing what they "have," and then judging themselves in relation. Buying stuff....or, borrowing to "buy" stuff gives the impressions that one is "keep up with the Jones's. My generation where I am from at least, rejects this notion as a whole." In other parts of the US, I'm not so sure.

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The Culture of Debt

By DAVID BROOKS


July 22, 2008

On the front page of Sunday’s Times, Gretchen Morgenson described Diane McLeod’s spiral into indebtedness, and now a debate has erupted over who is to blame.
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This third position begins with the notion that people are driven by the desire to earn the respect of their fellows. Individuals don’t build their lives from scratch. They absorb the patterns and norms of the world around them.

Decision-making — whether it’s taking out a loan or deciding whom to marry — isn’t a coldly rational, self-conscious act. Instead, decision-making is a long chain of processes, most of which happen beneath the level of awareness. We absorb a way of perceiving the world from parents and neighbors. We mimic the behavior around us. Only at the end of the process is there self-conscious oversight.
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According to this view, what happened to McLeod, and the nation’s financial system, is part of a larger social story. America once had a culture of thrift. But over the past decades, that unspoken code has been silently eroded.

Some of the toxins were economic. Rising house prices gave people the impression that they could take on more risk. Some were cultural. We entered a period of mass luxury, in which people down the income scale expect to own designer goods. Some were moral. Schools and other institutions used to talk the language of sin and temptation to alert people to the seductions that could ruin their lives. They no longer do.

Norms changed and people began making jokes to make illicit things seem normal. Instead of condemning hyper-consumerism, they made quips about “retail therapy,” or repeated the line that Morgenson noted in her article: When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping.
Link: Op-Ed Columnist - The Culture of Debt - Op-Ed - NYTimes.com
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