Teachers making over 100k?

**barbaro** · 20-07-2008, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Milkman

If your not financially secure, and you are not investing, consider teaching for no more than 5 years.

erm, expert are we?

I make my income from teaching, that has enabled me to invest and diversify in other areas, I have been here longer than 5 years.

You are exactly what I am talking about.

You are investing and diversifying (into another business?) and it's working for you.

My comment (read my post again) was for people who are not investing and have been in EFL for more than 5 years.

Learn how to read.

**Boon Mee** · 20-07-2008, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by SomchaiDriver

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by SomchaiDriver

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Originally Posted by SomchaiDriver

Unless that foreigner is the head master the figure seems absurd and more than likely bullshit.

What's so absurd about it?

The amount even if a top school like Prem.

Well as it happens it is Prem. Still fail to see what's so absurd about it though; that's what, 32K pounds gross per annum? Hardly an unrealistic or over-the-top figure is it, particularly when you consider the fees at that place.

At Prem a figure like that could be possible if the person was working in some sort managerial capacity.

Otherwise it is bollocks.

That's right!
I wanna see this boy's paystub before I believe that figure!

**Thormaturge** · 20-07-2008, 06:19 AM

There is no shortage of teachers in Thailand earning over ThB 100,000 per month. Some international schools pay around thB 80,000 or so but many pay in excess of ThB 100,000. Some well in excess of that figure.

It is true they recruit primarily from overseas, but a teacher with just a TEFL certificate and good references plus a few years' experience can make it into this league.

I have encountered three schools that pay figures close to the UK/US pay scale and gear the Thai salary to the overseas figure. This protects the teacher from the ravages of currency fluctuations.

**Reaper** · 20-07-2008, 07:47 AM

Ant and myself might just be talking about the same guy in CM. I know he makes about 180-200k a month. That is the EXCEPTION however. Take a look at the websites of all the school listed as members of the "international schools association of Thailand" International Schools Association of Thailand and look at their salaries online. Not very high - actually downright low.

**kingwilly** · 20-07-2008, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Milkman

You are exactly what I am talking about. You are investing and diversifying (into another business?) and it's working for you. My comment (read my post again) was for people who are not investing and have been in EFL for more than 5 years. Learn how to read.

erm, read again.

My only source of income when i arrived in thailand was from teaching. Anything that I have now is based upon teaching. I have saved and invested money that I earned from teaching in Thailand.

I did not arrive with a million dollar investment portfolio living off the interest while I played around teaching some classes. My primary source of income is still a teaching salary.

*this is not TEFL*

**El Gibbon** · 20-07-2008, 08:21 AM

There are two teachers living in our condo group that I'm quite familiar with.

One an American has a engineering degree and teaches science at St Joseph's or whatever it is, supposed to be one of the better schools in Bkk. He gets 60K a month gross. He teaches the 11 - 15 year olds, at the all girls school.

One is an Englishman with a degree in literature and teaches at a relatively small school (Intl) at the same level. He gets 40K per month gross.

I've also met a fellow with a "teaching degree" in Eglish that teaches in the Rangsit area that earns over 200K month.

EDIT: All of the above have real sheepskins from Universities that you would recognize as bonifide.
Guess it all depends on the individual, the quals and the luck in landing the job.

**barbaro** · 20-07-2008, 08:31 AM

^ OK. But I was referring to people who didn't save/invest for a full 5 year period, teaching, or TEFL, or doing anything.

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**NickA** · 20-07-2008, 10:08 AM

Willy, as MM says learn to read. He's not talking about you!

**SomchaiDriver** · 20-07-2008, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by El Gibbon

I've also met a fellow with a "teaching degree" in Eglish that teaches in the Rangsit area that earns over 200K month.

That is a very impressive figure for teaching in Thailand.

Bastard almost earns as much as me

**kingwilly** · 20-07-2008, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by NickA

Willy, as MM says learn to read. He's not talking about you!

I did read it, he said teaching in thailand without another income source is a waste of time. I think he needs to differentiate between the different types of teachers.

Anyone with experience in teaching and an appropriate educational qualification can easily land a decent job teaching in Thailand. And by decent I mean a salary of at least 100K + package, + reasonable working conditions etc.

This is not a waste of time, and a teacher can save money doing this.

Still no hope ever of earning Oil and Gas type money, but depends on the persons priorities in life. No teacher ever does it for the money, in the west or asia.

**kingwilly** · 20-07-2008, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by El Gibbon

Guess it all depends on the individual, the quals and the luck in landing the job.

yes, and each of these guys does not have an educational degree.
luck is not so much a part of it.

Originally Posted by El Gibbon

has a engineering degree

Originally Posted by El Gibbon

with a degree in literature

**hillbilly** · 20-07-2008, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Anyone with experience in teaching and an appropriate educational qualification can easily land a decent job teaching in Thailand. And by decent I mean a salary of at least 100K + package, + reasonable working conditions etc.

Have to agree.

The truth is I make a very decent living as a 'true' teacher here in Thailand.

Yet, I have decided to take my 9-year-old daughter to the states for her education.

I wonder why?

**NickA** · 20-07-2008, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by Milkman

If your not financially secure, and you are not investing, consider teaching for no more than 5 years.

Willy, my dear boy, I'll quote it for you to read again and try to understand this time.

He said "if you are not financially secure".

But you say you are, so he is not talking about you.

**kingwilly** · 20-07-2008, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

Willy, my dear boy, I'll quote it for you to read again and try to understand this time. He said "if you are not financially secure". But you say you are, so he is not talking about you.

FFS, I'll type slow then.

I was NOT financially secure before I started teaching in Thailand. I am now, relatively speaking.

**Accidental Ajarn** · 20-07-2008, 09:14 PM

"tefl scum"

Feeling a need to insult others today are we?

**NickA** · 20-07-2008, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

FFS, I'll type slow then. I was NOT financially secure before I started teaching in Thailand. I am now, relatively speaking.

So what exactly has that got to do with what MM said.

He said if you can't save money teaching then don't do it for more than 5 years.

You can save money, so carry on.

Seriously, Willy, it was only one sentence and you are supposed to be a proper techa and all that

**barbaro** · 20-07-2008, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by NickA

Willy, my dear boy, I'll quote it for you to read again and try to understand this time. He said "if you are not financially secure". But you say you are, so he is not talking about you.

FFS, I'll type slow then.

I was NOT financially secure before I started teaching in Thailand. I am now, relatively speaking.

You stated you were investing. So, I was not referring to you.

Why are we so caught up in semantics, today. NickA is correct. Is it OK to move on with this topic?

bkkmadness · 20-07-2008, 11:51 PM

Don't believe them KW, MM was so obviously talking you about you! You tell them mate.

**kingwilly** · 21-07-2008, 05:58 AM

Whatevaaaaaaaaaaa

**NickA** · 21-07-2008, 10:03 AM

^That, dear parents, is what you get if you pay millions of baht for a top international school

Pay peanuts and you get monkeys.

Pay gold and you might still get a monkey

**kingwilly** · 21-07-2008, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

^That, dear parents, is what you get if you pay millions of baht for a top international school

Nope. no kingwilly any schools I know of. much more responsible than an online persona

**NickA** · 21-07-2008, 12:40 PM

^no, a little dicky bird told me you were much worse in real life

**kingwilly** · 21-07-2008, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

^no, a little dicky bird told me you were much worse in real life

I dont know any dickiebiords!

**Skettios** · 21-07-2008, 01:23 PM

Returning to the original thread, I don't think many people are making over 100k teaching in Thailand unless they are working at a top tier international school, like Shrewsbury or ISB.

Second tier schools like Assumption, Trinity, Anglo Singapore, barely pay more than Tefl rates. St. Gabriels doesn't even pay their teachers, they get them for free from Canada in a school exchange. Most of these so called international schools are rip offs for parents and teachers. The money goes to the owner, that's about it.

**Sir Burr** · 21-07-2008, 01:37 PM

Just out of curiousity, do teachers get annual pay rises?
It's just that Thai inflation has averaged about 6% per annum which is pretty high.
Just a couple of years without a pay rise would mean a pretty hefty pay cut in real terms.

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