Thread: What kind of religion condones this?

Originally Posted by obsidian

so timing and degree. ok, then.

"caw Caw. Polly want a cracker!"

I am taking the advice of two posters and putting you and your stupidly on ignore!

Sounds like obsidian is trying to justify this barbaric behavior.
I just don't get some people.

I blame god, he should have been happy with the Jews worshipping him just on Saturday, but no, he needed more and made the Christians so that he had something to do on Sunday as well.

This was OK for 500 years or so, then he stopped going to the pub on Friday nights because he had the shits too often on a Saturday.

He was not sure if the shits was caused by bad beer or a bad Kebeb so his new Friday gang.............

Is Mormon got something to do with Monday or am I just being cynical

In South Africa they put a car tire around a person's neck and light it on fire but I don't hear them saying, "Go Jesus! Go Jesus!" It's not state law either. In Iran it's the law to hang girls in order to save men from going to prison for rape.

Originally Posted by chitown

Let's ask these questions to put an end to this.

How many Christians stone people in this day and age and how many Muslims have stoned people in this day and age?

When these questions are answered TRUTHFULLY then the case will be closed

Ok as you wish.

I really can't tell you the exact number but can tell you that there are absurd Muslims who stone people to death (due to lace of education, not religion). Muslims (a fraction of them I would say) stoning someone to death don't represent Islamic law at all. Just keep this in mind please.

Now stoning to death law came from Moses and Abraham's time which Jesus too followed. You won't find a single verse in the Quran directing Muslims to stone someone to death.

Now please answer my question that I asked earlier in post number 38.

Originally Posted by attaboy

In South Africa they put a car tire around a person's neck and light it on fire but I don't hear them saying, "Go Jesus! Go Jesus!" It's not state law either. In Iran it's the law to hang girls in order to save men from going to prison for rape.

What law is that then?

Originally Posted by attaboy

In Iran it's the law to hang girls in order to save men from going to prison for rape.

Any reference to such law?

Muzzies do it, others don't. Those who try to justify it by saying Christians did it 300 years ago are obfuscating. Is slavery acceptable in some places today because it was widespread across the planet 200 years ago?

I would prefer to leave religion out of the argument completely. Whether its condoned by an established religion or not, it's barbaric and the people who do it are bloodthirsty animals. The fact that they all happen to be Muzzies is immaterial.

Originally Posted by Texpat

Muzzies do it, others don't...

I would prefer to leave religion out of the argument completely. Whether its condoned by an established religion or not, it's barbaric and the people who do it are bloodthirsty animals. The fact that they all happen to be Muzzies is immaterial.

That's rather contradictory isn't it? The fact that they're Muslims isn't immaterial, at least not to you apparently.

Originally Posted by machangezi

Originally Posted by chitown

Originally Posted by machangezi

Jews were not Christians and the Old Testament was for the Jews.

Then why did Jesus and his disciples based their teachings on it? Was Jesus a Jew?

According to my understanding, he was the end of the law.

Yes Jesus was a Jew, but he put an end to the law.

He did not say follow the law, he said follow him.

But he himself was following the same laws. A bit of hypocrisy, isn't it?

Jesus did not follow the rituals of the Jewish law. He even told the pharisees to cast the 1st stone if they were without sin.

I am an avid reader and have studied Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and other faiths and I am telling you that it the Muslims that condone stoning, torture, beheading and even the murder of their own daughters and sons through honor killings.

Again, I ask you (and I narrow it down) when in the last 50 years did Christians stone, behead or carry out and honor killing.

Or a step further, when did any Christian or Buddhist condone such atrocities in the last 50 years.

Please answer that.

Originally Posted by machangezi

Since it is about stoning then why are you pointing a finger at Islam? Does Islam condone stoning to death? The answer is a big "NO" as there is no verse in the Quran that says so.

I think we are clear on this one now. Case closed?

So why do they do it then?

I see Muslims in the photo and every photo and story about stoning, honor killings or a beheading are with Muslims committing the act.

I have yet to click on a story or see a photo with Father O'toole in his white collar throwing a stone at someone or sawing someones head off.

Happiness is.......... This message is hidden because obsidian is on your ignore list.

Originally Posted by chitown

I have yet to click on a story or see a photo with Father O'toole in his white collar throwing a stone at someone or sawing someones head off.

nope. the good father o'toole is half up an eight year old boy.

I think Arab might be a better descriptive. Whittled down to a narrower definition.
Indonesia is the most populous Muzzie country, and they don't do it ... much.

Macha will be able to provide the best identifying characteristics of the savages.
How would you describe them Macha, if not Muzzie?
He's well-known for his resistance to casting huge populations into a negative stereotype.

WAIT, HOLD THE PRESSES.

Maybe it's not just Arabs. The fucking AMERICANS are doing it too!

July 7, 2008
Fox News, Atlanta

CLAYTON COUNTY, Ga. – A Clayton County man was behind bars Sunday, accused of killing his own daughter. Police said the father was angry because he felt his daughter was disgracing the family.

Investigators said 54-year-old Chaudhry Rashad was so outraged at his daughter, Sandela Kanwal, and her plans for divorce that he killed her after a heated argument at the family's home. Investigators said Rashad confessed to strangling the 25-year-old woman.



"The family is very upset and stressed," said Shahid Malik of the Pakistani American Community of Atlanta.

Malik met with the family Sunday and said they were all traumatized.

Neighbors said the family was generally quiet, but also hard to miss.

"I would see the young lady outside every once in a while dressed in the traditional Muslim gear," said neighbor Jack Hannah.

"The father, he would pray at certain times of the mornings and evenings," said neighbor Cynthia Smith.

Rashad was taken to the Clayton County jail. Police said they interviewed Rashad and he said he killed his daughter as a matter of honor, because he felt her plans for divorce would have disgraced the family.

"She was under depression too and the father was very stressed and under depression," said Malik.

Police said the victim had been in an arranged marriage and hadn't seen her husband, who lives in Chicago, for months.

Malik said arranged marriages are not uncommon for Pakistanis. He said the marriages are usually accepted and successful, although young people living in American might develop problems with them.

"Their minds are changed when the live here due to this system," said Malik.

Rashad is due to go before a Clayton County magistrate Monday.

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=6922427&version=6&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

" I have not come to change the Laws of Moses but to fulfill them" I think is the quote

Thanks G2B.

I was just on the island of Sumbawa, Indonesia where the majority of the population are muslim and experienced that they were the nicest and friendliest people I have ever met.

Yar the man Walrus. The problem is most of the posters speaking against Islam or Muslims for that matter have never spent reasonable time with them.

Originally Posted by machangezi

Yar the man Walrus. The problem is most of the posters speaking against Islam or Muslims for that matter have never spent reasonable time with them.

That and the habit of using gross generalisations. One probably begets the other.

Originally Posted by walrus

I was just on the island of Sumbawa, Indonesia where the majority of the population are muslim and experienced that they were the nicest and friendliest people I have ever met.

Those are a different breed of Muslim.
As stated by our resident Imam,, "You have never spent time with them", Well the hell ya beller,, I spent close to 10 years all total, In Iraq, Iran, Saudi and Kewait and traveled thru most countrys bordering the Arab Gulf, plus worked with all races from over in the Muslin Belt, and you could be right,, seems that only the Sand Niggers are the ones that cause the hell and the Paki that stink the worst.