Thread: Euro Muslims seek to restore virginity

Originally Posted by kingwilly

However, much of the female circumcision in Indonesia (Aceh may be an exception to this however) is actually just a ceremonial thing where the blade is placed very close but little or no cutting is actually done at all.

Oh, that's OK, then.

Another charming trick, still practised in some communities, is to sew them up when they are young and let the husband have the pleasure of breaking the stitches on the wedding night.

Originally Posted by Sakeopete

The scary thing is once these Muslim parents get wind that the surgery is common they may start forcing female circumcision (mutilation) as they do in Africa and to a lesser extent Malaysia/Indonesia. TBH I don't mean to be racist but after seeing a video of a Kurdish girl being stoned to death by her father and uncles I have little respect for the Middle East Muslim culture of barbarians.

I once saw a documentary of a band of chimps attacking another band of chimps and eating their babies. Since that day I've despised all mammals.

Originally Posted by Eliminator

maybe all your "colleagues" in arms are muslim.

They are, and as we only have a small number of women to reward them with we 're spending a bloody fortune having to constantly renew their virginity.

So THAT'S where they get the 72 virgins from ...



A slight technicality. Guess those muzzies didn't bother to read the fine print.
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Originally Posted by Morden

Oh, that's OK, then. Another charming trick, still practised in some communities, is to sew them up when they are young and let the husband have the pleasure of breaking the stitches on the wedding night.

Well, I'm trying to instill some reality into this debate rather than hyperbole and the over the top statements being recycled until they become facts.

As a matter of interest, are Moslem men circumsized?

yes...

Male circumcision is actually a good deal more painful than female, with the exception of a particularly barbaric style still practised in the horn of Africa area.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Well, I'm trying to instill some reality into this debate rather than hyperbole and the over the top statements being recycled until they become facts.

I can run with that. Primitive religious practices are quite barbaric enough without hysterical embellishment.

Originally Posted by Morden

Primitive religious practices are quite barbaric enough without hysterical embellishment.

and outside of Africa, how widespread are they?

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Originally Posted by Morden

Primitive religious practices are quite barbaric enough without hysterical embellishment.

and outside of Africa, how widespread are they?

For one example, the sucking off of boys' foreskins by a 57 year old mohel in New York was found to have given genital herpes to several of them. At least two died. Mayor Bloomberg decided not to ban the practice. That was in 2005.

wide·spread Audio Help /ˈwaɪdˈsprɛd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[wahyd-spred] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1.spread over or open, or occupying a wide space. 2.distributed over a wide region, or occurring in many places or among many persons or individuals: widespread poverty.

Originally Posted by Morden

At least two died

from herpes?

Originally Posted by obsidian

Originally Posted by Morden

At least two died

from herpes?

Rabbi probed for circumcised infants' herpes - Kids and parenting - MSNBC.com

one died.

and yes, it was from herpes. according to the link.

anything more recent on this case? interesting.

Originally Posted by obsidian

one died.

and yes, it was from herpes. according to the link.

anything more recent on this case? interesting.

Not sure. I'll check my more recent text reference when I get to it later. I also have to limit my internet research of topics like this mainly to the evenings because of my present location. Evening here is later than in LOS.

Originally Posted by kingwilly

wide·spread Audio Help /ˈwaɪdˈsprɛd/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[wahyd-spred] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1.spread over or open, or occupying a wide space. 2.distributed over a wide region, or occurring in many places or among many persons or individuals: widespread poverty.

Does this fit the definition:

'Worldwide, more than 130 million girls and women are believed to have undergone female genital mutilation. And each year, 2 million girls are estimated to be at risk of undergoing FGM.'

Here's the full piece:

Iraq: Study Says Female Genital Mutilation Widespread In North - RADIO FREE EUROPE / RADIO LIBERTY

^ Did the article also mention how many people are subjected to male genital mutilation?

Originally Posted by Morden

Originally Posted by obsidian

one died.

and yes, it was from herpes. according to the link.

anything more recent on this case? interesting.

Not sure. I'll check my more recent text reference when I get to it later. I also have to limit my internet research of topics like this mainly to the evenings because of my present location. Evening here is later than in LOS.

I've dug out these:

.:: Welcome To The Jewish Ledger ::.

Babie dies after unsanitary ritual circumcision.

UPDATED Circumcision and Sucking on Penis by Rabbis is a Jewish Practice

Another disgusting religious practice. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine (Christopher Hitchens has written a book called 'God Is Not Great')

Not muslim mutilation, granted, but another example of how primitive are these religions.

Originally Posted by sabang

^ Did the article also mention how many people are subjected to male genital mutilation?

See No. 45 for an example.

Religion seems to be the root of the oppression of women generally, and the liberation of women in the west must be related to the declining popularity of the church.

There's certainly a link, but don't you think that religion has been responsible for repressing male and female alike?

Originally Posted by Morden

There's certainly a link, but don't you think that religion has been responsible for repressing male and female alike?

Most certainly! Religion has been a tool used to subjugate the masses to the will of the ruling elite for thousands of years.

So what do you make of MLK's:

Thank God Almighty, I'm free at last!

Bit of an oxymoron isn't it?