Thread: US Presidential Campaign 2008

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

Originally Posted by durianfan

America is the most PC country in the world.

i find that extremely hard to believe.

The US is PC to the extreme. Sensitivities abound to the point where just about anything can result in a law suit. Not many years ago, I made the mistake of saying during a meeting "And my thanks to all the girls in the International support group for their kind and wonderful support." Next day I was called on the carpet by the VP of HR for having used the term "girls" rather than the PC "associates".

Anyone who is employed in a large corporation or the Government beware.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ No problem, li'l nigga

nice.

this post was in response to a post by norton.....and this is his av....

No offense taken. Sure it was tongue in cheek. Avs don't always reflect ones accepted political correctness.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by Hootad Binky

^ Guilt by association, then? Care to apply that criterea to Republicans?

Sure.
Give us an example or two that compare equally?

Let's start with Nixon

Let's see: wiretapping, lying to Congress, lying to the public, associating with criminals, aiding and abetting acts of breaking and entering, etc. Was impeached, resigned in disgrace: good riddance.


Thanks, Dick!

Next, Ronald Reagan:



Illegally funded Contras (who later shipped cocaine to US) with funds from illegally selling weapons to Iran (Iran!). Meanwhile friends with and weapon supplier to that great humanitarian Saddam:



And around the same time, let's not forget the S&L debacle, which included John McCain and Neil Bush.

The ultimate cost of the crisis is estimated to have totaled around USD $160.1 billion, about $124.6 billion of which was directly paid for by the U.S. government -- that is, the U.S. taxpayer, either directly or through charges on their savings and loan accounts-- [2], which contributed to the large budget deficits of the early 1990s.

Lincoln Savings and Loan

The Lincoln Savings led to the Keating Five political scandal, in which five U.S. senators were implicated in an influence-peddling scheme. It was named for Charles Keating, who headed Lincoln saving and made $300,000 as political contributions to them in the 1980s. Three of those senators - Alan Cranston, Don Riegle, and Dennis DeConcini - found their political careers cut short as a result. Two others - John Glenn and John McCain - were rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for exercising "poor judgment" for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating. John McCain is a Republican candidate in the 2008 U.S. presidential election.

Silverado Savings and Loan

Silverado Savings and Loan collapsed in 1988, costing taxpayers $1.6 billion. Neil Bush, son of then Vice President of the United States George H. W. Bush, was Director of Silverado at the time. Neil was accused of giving himself a loan from Silverado, but he denied all wrongdoing.


The US Office of Thrift Supervision investigated Silverado's failure and determined that Bush had engaged in numerous "breaches of his fiduciary duties involving multiple conflicts of interest." Although Bush was not indicted on criminal charges, a civil action was brought against him and the other Silverado directors by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation; it was eventually settled out of court, with Bush paying $50,000 as part of the settlement, as reported in the Washington Post.

That must be nice; giving yourself huge, non-secured loans backed by the American taxpayer, in return for a small fine I call that fraud and theft.


Next up, old Bush family friend Kenneth L. Lay, CEO and Chairman of Enron! This guy brought bilking the innocent to a whole new level when he fraudulently squandered billion$$ in pension funds and life saving of his thousands of employees.


Most definitely a criminal...

In happier days with his close pals:




Crimes of Passion


Mark Foley: unfortunate sexual obsession with very underage Congressional pageboys (not legal!)


Larry, it's illegal to solicit sex in reststop toilets (ask George Michael!)


Mugshot of Bob Allen: State representative and McCain staffer also caught illegally soliciting for sex in public toilets, his excuse was the Blackness of the undercover police officer frightened him into offering him $20 to perform oral sex on him. "I didn't want to become a statistic" he said

And here's a Republican Congressman who's been indicted for:

January 16, 2008

Islamic Charity Charged with Terrorist Financing; Former U.S. Congressman Indicted for Money Laundering

Here's a pdf of the indictment itself, and here's the DOJ press release on the Siljander indictment

KANSAS CITY -- A federal grand jury in the Western District of Missouri has returned a superseding indictment that charges the Islamic American Relief Agency (IARA) and several of its former officers with eight new counts of engaging in prohibited financial transactions for the benefit of U.S.-designated terrorist Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. The indictment also charges former U.S. Congressman Mark Deli Siljander with money laundering, conspiracy and obstruction of justice in the case.

Jihad Watch: Islamic Charity Charged with Terrorist Financing; Former U.S. Congressman Indicted for Money Laundering

Don't get me wrong! I have a lot of respect for Republicans. If they could just curb:

- lying and association with and instigation of criminal activities
- fleecing the taxpayer
- associating and cooperating with radical Islamist states
- aiding dictators
- robbing banks
- soliciting underage boys for sex
- soliciting for sex in public toilets!

Then maybe, just maybe, we could take them seriously, on their own terms whatever they are...)

Oh! And let's not forget:

Evangelical Leader Admits to Buying Meth, Receiving Massage From Gay Escort

Friday, November 03, 2006


Rev. Ted Haggard, president of the National Association
of Evangelicals, in Sept. 2005 in Colorado Springs, Colo.

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — Embattled national evangelical leader the Rev. Ted Haggard admitted Friday that he bought methamphetamines and received a massage from a gay prostitute, but denies he ever used the drug or had sex with the man.

"I bought it for myself but never used it," Haggard told reporters gathered outside his home. "I was tempted but I never used it."

Haggard, 50, a married father of five, who resigned his post as head of the thirty million member National Association of Evangelicals, said he never had sex with Mike Jones, a 49-year-old gay escort who claims to have had a drug-laced three year tryst with Haggard.

I think we should all thank the good Republican Evangelical Pastor for reminding us of the importance of a good massage and a snort of meth!

A Willie Horton Hit on Obama?

Tuesday, Apr. 22, 2008

An old right-wing attack dog has returned with a new target: Barack Obama.

Starting Tuesday, a group of conservative activists led by Floyd Brown, author of the famous Willie Horton ad used so effectively against Michael Dukakis in 1988, will begin a campaign to tar Obama as weak on crime and terrorism, a strategy that aims to upend Obama's relatively strong reputation among Republican voters.

"The campaign by Hillary Clinton has not been able to raise Obama's negatives," said Brown on Monday. "It is absolutely critical that Obama's negatives go up with Republicans."

Brown says the initial effort, will be aired later this month in North Carolina and e-mailed to between 3 and 7 million conservatives this week, with a plea for more funding to further spread the message. "All of the efforts I have ever done in my life have been significantly funded," Brown claimed, though he declined to describe the size of the purchase. "This is going to be the most Internet-intensive effort for an ad debut ever."

The new ad recounts the deaths of three Chicago residents in 2001 at the hands of criminal gangs. "That same year, a Chicago state senator named Barack Obama voted against expanding the death penalty for gang-related murders," an ominous female narrator intones. "So the question is, can a man so weak in the war on gangs be trusted in the war on terror?"

Brown is funding the initial ad campaign through a political action committee called the National Campaign Fund, which had $14,027 in the bank at the end of March. Brown said he had established several other front groups to fund a long-range effort to erode Obama's support, including a second PAC, called The Legacy Committee, a 527 organization called Citizens for a Safe and Prosperous America and a so-called "social welfare" 501(c)4 nonprofit called the Policy Issues Institute.

Later this week, Brown said he plans to debut a second ad, focusing on Democratic support for giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants, which he says will also be aired in North Carolina. The second ad will be paid for by Citizens for a Safe and Prosperous America, the 527 group, which can accept donations of any amount. "This is a long march to November," Brown said. "Right now it's beginning a process that gives us the information to succeed in August and September."

By airing the ads in North Carolina, the site of an upcoming Democratic primary, Brown appears to be playing for national media attention. The initial spot also consciously mimics the themes from one of the most famous, and controversial, attack ads in modern political history, the Willie Horton ad. That spot, which was also funded outside a campaign, blamed Michael Dukakis, the 1988 Democratic nominee, for the weekend furlough that allowed a convicted felon to commit another rape. At the time, domestic crime was a major national issue, though it has not registered as a significant concern in public opinion polls during this election cycle.

Brown's new ad focuses on a 2001 vote by Obama in the Illinois Senate to oppose a bill that would have expanded the use of the death penalty if the perpetrator of a crime belonged to a gang. The links between Obama's vote on that issue and the deaths of three Chicago resident's are indirect and tenuous, as is the further connection the ad draws between the issue of Obama's position on the death penalty and the issue of international terrorism.

A Willie Horton Hit on Obama? - TIME