Thread: Obama's priorities...let's take a look

Once Obama's "spiritual adviser," and "mentor," now a guy he's barely met!

I've been listening to more speculation and revelations on TV. Reportedly, Obama first came to Wright and asked him to help him politically through the large church congregation and contacts in the black community. As a Chicago outsider from Hawaii, he needed some local contacts and champions in his early political career.

Wright seems to think that he was instrumental in Obama getting to where he is today, and this is the reason for his pain of being betrayed. After the snub of not being invited on stage at Obama's announcement, evidently, it went downhill from there.

Originally Posted by raycarey

they are afraid of obama,

Who's 'they'?

Hint :-

Originally Posted by sabang

Hint :-

Actually, I was waiting for RC to answer with some snide comment re racists on this forum or some such...

Afraid of his agenda - that's for sure.
Not to mention taxes raised to drive the US further into Nanny Statehood...

Originally Posted by Norton

No matter who wins we will be paying higher taxes.

There is absolutely no doubt about it. All those baby boomers will be signing up for social security over the next ten years, and that has to be paid for somehow. bush financed his war on credit, and the credit line is maxed out.

and another thing regarding taxes (i don't know if i've posted this before), obama has promised not to raise taxes on capital gains and dividends higher than the rate reagan had them at.

Originally Posted by raycarey

All those baby boomers will be signing up for social security over the next ten years, and that has to be paid for somehow.

Some of us...err them already have.

but i remember reading somewhere that the numbers are really going to balloon in the next few years. i'll go look for a link.

Originally Posted by Norton

Speaking his mind and pushing against the political tide is one of his strengths IMO.

true.

but i wonder if that's a thing of the past. he's recently flip flopped on the evangelical nuts, the bush tax cuts, and campaign finance reform.

Originally Posted by raycarey

but i wonder if that's a thing of the past. he's recently flip flopped on the evangelical nuts, the bush tax cuts, and campaign finance reform.

He's running for the office. Like many in the past what he does when he gets in may be far removed from the campaign rhetoric. Time will tell.

Fat dickwad, Michael Moore, supports Obama. This might be enough for me to withdraw my support. Not really, but here's what he says:

Filmmaker Moore speaks out on Obama, Wright, Clinton

Larry King: When you were last here in February, you said you had opinions on the race, but were not endorsing anybody. What changed?

Michael Moore: Well, I think that the whole movement behind Obama is very impressive. And I think it's a good thing for the country. As far as Obama as a candidate, I think that this is a very decent individual. And I've been just impressed through the various debates as to how he's handled himself, how he has responded to the issues and responded to people.

King: What about how he's handled the Rev. [Jeremiah] Wright thing?

Moore: Jeez, you know, I mean I go to Mass still. I'm a practicing Catholic. I've been that way all my life. But if I had -- if I had gotten up every time I heard a priest from the pulpit in my travels around the country say things like I've heard them say, that birth control is a sin, that women should not be priests, that women should have a different role in church ...

King: You'd be walking out all the time?

Moore: Well, I supported her run for Senate. My wife and I contributed to her campaign. But the huge disappointment was when she was presented with an opportunity for a moment -- a profile in courage moment in October of 2002 -- to not give Bush the authorization to go to war, she voted for war. And she continued to vote for war for the years after that ... and I'm disappointed in that. But when I said [I was] 'disgusted,' that came with the ABC debate. When she threw out [Nation of Islam leader Louis] Farrakhan, when she said the word Farrakhan and Hamas -- to somehow attach that to Sen. Obama -- I just thought that was beneath everything that she used to stand for. And I think at some point, she's going to be disappointed in herself for having done that. Watch Moore discuss his support for Obama »

King: Are you so disappointed that you would consider, if she got the nomination, [voting] for [Sen. John] McCain?

Moore: Absolutely not. No, no, no ... most people I know are just going to stagger into the voting booth in November and look for the big "D" on the ballot. And it really isn't going to matter what the name is on there, whether it's ...

Filmmaker Moore speaks out on Obama, Wright, Clinton - CNN.com

I also think the excitement behind Obama is good for the country. But I don't agree that just because you're unhappy with Bush you should just blindly stumble into the voting booth and vote for any democratic candidate. That's just blind partisanship.

Originally Posted by chinthee

Moore: Jeez, you know, I mean I go to Mass still. I'm a practicing Catholic. I've been that way all my life. But if I had -- if I had gotten up every time I heard a priest from the pulpit in my travels around the country say things like I've heard them say, that birth control is a sin, that women should not be priests, that women should have a different role in church ... King: You'd be walking out all the time?

My point exactly. Since when has the more extreme comments from some bluddy Pastor been meant to be representative of the views of intelligent people within the Congregation?

^Yes, good point. As I see this whole pastor controversy, Obama used Wright as a stepping stone in his political career. He probably overlooked his outrageous views.

Now he's being closely tied to those views. Not fair certainly, as this guy wasn't Obama's father ffs.

Originally Posted by chinthee

Fat dickwad, Michael Moore, supports Obama. This might be enough for me to withdraw my support. Not really, but here's what he says:

Micahel Moore advising on pres candidates? Fek, I wouldn't buy a lettuce leaf that he promoted, not that the obese git ever eats veggies.

Originally Posted by chinthee

^Yes, good point. As I see this whole pastor controversy, Obama used Wright as a stepping stone in his political career. He probably overlooked his outrageous views.
Now he's being closely tied to those views. Not fair certainly, as this guy wasn't Obama's father ffs.

Wright was a stepping stone? Stone to what? Obama's wife still puts a bug in my ear. Oh, Barack is speaking for me on this...what? you ain't running for pres. These kind of comments are one reason why I am against Obama -- his wife wants to dictate.

Maybe Michelle should run for Pres. Family Biz seems to be all the rage in US politics.

Just a thought:

Could it be that Obama's association with Wright has been instrumental in furthering Obama's political career, in the community as well as a door-opener - and Obama associated with him inspite of his controversial opinions, not because of them?

^Yes! Exactly my thoughts.

Meanwhile, experts are praising Obama's gas tax position as economically sound. McCain's and Hilary's positions have been roundly rejected by experts.

Obama wins support on opposition to gas tax holiday

Barack Obama boasts a growing list of experts and newspaper editorial boards backing his opposition to a summer gas tax holiday.

They agree with him that the proposal makes little economic or environmental sense, and they join him in accusing Democratic rival Hillary Clinton and Republican John McCain of political pandering.

But on the politics, not the policy, it's not at all clear that Obama will be the winner - not with gas prices at all-time highs and some predicting $4 a gallon this summer.

Obama wins support on opposition to gas tax holiday - The Boston Globe

^
Boston Globe?

Right...probably even further (if that's possible) left of the NYT...

^Just trying to be 'fair and balanced.'

Chinthee is a commie Lib. He's also quoted Wiki before and supports the most extremist Senator in US history: Obama.

Had you fooled for a while, eh?

Originally Posted by chinthee

Meanwhile, experts are praising Obama's gas tax position as economically sound. McCain's and Hilary's positions have been roundly rejected by experts.

Pure political pandering on Hillary's part. This brilliant suggestion from a lady who has ostracized the "big oil" companies for making too much profit, and based her campaign on developing alternative fuels to reduce dependency on oil.

She now wants to cut gas tax so people can purchase more gas! Typical of status quo, politics as usual coming from someone who claims she can bring "change". Hypocritically to the end.

Funny thing with the gas cos, they don't know what to do with all their money. That's half of why people are balking coz those billions are just sitting on the books.