Thread: Cutting Prices Won't Save Windows Vista

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Don't forget to create a Restore Point before you load it onto your computer. Restore Points have saved my arse plenty of times.

Pussy!

Real men don't use restore points.

^ LOL

It's still a Realease Candidate, I'll wait for the final version in french.

And I'm still making backup images of both my updated XP and Mandriva OS's. Never know what can happen.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Don't forget to create a Restore Point before you load it onto your computer. Restore Points have saved my arse plenty of times.

Pussy!

Real men don't use restore points.

REAL Smart me do!

Originally Posted by John L

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Sir Burr

Don't forget to create a Restore Point before you load it onto your computer. Restore Points have saved my arse plenty of times.

Pussy!

Real men don't use restore points.

REAL Smart me do!

No need - you do weekly an image of your harddisk (the one with the OS on it) and have a backup that does hourly backups of your .doc. mails and maybe some others like docs and settings.
This is far better and much more secure than the restore point that may - or may not restore when needed.

it's a RC, I wouldn't bother installing a SP for any Windows versions before it's officially announced and then wait another 6 months for any major fuckup,

Why fix it when it works,

MS is hardly on the downward slope, modern capitalism has this great ability to "maintain" inferior products as long as players have enough money in the bank to buyout or bankrupt all their competitors. Think of it as "privatized" communism where dysfunctional mega corporations run inefficient businesses as long as they can afford it by charging clueless and confused consumers.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

MS is hardly on the downward slope

They're hardly going 'great guns' when most new PC buyers still prefer to use the previous OS, are they?

^ it doesn't matter, retail consumers is not their primary target, they make a fortune with corporations, their license contract force them to upgrade to latest Windows version if they want support, or else they are fucked

They are holding their customers at gunpoint, and since their corporate customers are cowards, above all corporate management, they comply and take it in the ass with a big smile

Originally Posted by John L

got any wonderful pictures of those Evil private businesses

Got any of those genetically defect and morally deficient 'Leftists' slaughtering babies?

Originally Posted by John L

Are you the "Official" Fool/Heyoka here at Teak Door?

Relax, Johnny, your application is still being considered.
Someone will visit you to take the measurements for your costume.

Originally Posted by John L

Hey Butterfly, got any wonderful pictures of those Evil private businesses holding their customers at "gunpoint" while they FORCE their will on them? I am dying to see a video of this.

do you actually hold a job ? surely you can't be that detached from the real world ?

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by John L

got any wonderful pictures of those Evil private businesses

Got any of those genetically defect and morally deficient 'Leftists' slaughtering babies?

As a matter of fact there are lots of picture of this coming from the Fascist regime of Japan, before WWII, as soldiers Raped Nanking. Most of the other Leftist monsters, such as the NSDAP, and the Commies of Union of Soviet Socialists and PRC did so without the good graces of allowing photographers. However, there are many eyewitness accounts. I'd provide links to some of the sites, but you would not bother with them anyay, since they violate your "Utopian" view of how the World should Work.

Originally Posted by sTroll

Originally Posted by John L

Are you the "Official" Fool/Heyoka here at Teak Door?

Relax, Johnny, your application is still being considered.
Someone will visit you to take the measurements for your costume.

I already have my 'day job' thank you. But you are cordially invited to try out as a replacement for "Q". He's a natural, so you would have to work hard at it.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by John L

Hey Butterfly, got any wonderful pictures of those Evil private businesses holding their customers at "gunpoint" while they FORCE their will on them? I am dying to see a video of this.

do you actually hold a job ? surely you can't be that detached from the real world ?

Soooooo, in other words, you can't produce any pictures of this happening? I'm still waiting with bated breath. Changing the subject will not gain you any 'brownie' points for a Genius of a bloke, such as yourself.

I thought so. All I wish for you to do is just produce ONE picture, or ONE nice little video showing us just what you are saying. That's all we ask of you, which isn't too much from the intellectually degenerate crowd.

^ John, are you retarded or just trolling again ?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it doesn't matter, retail consumers is not their primary target, they make a fortune with corporations, their license contract force them to upgrade to latest Windows version if they want support, or else they are fucked

This is true. At our place we're moving away from licensed applications and using free stuff like Thunderbird and Open Office, as it's just too expensive to use licensed English language software. Another company I know moved over to Linux for everyone in the office a couple of years ago and is very happy.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ John, are you retarded or just trolling again ?

Here is a Signature I used to use over at Ai-Jane. It fits you oh so well, little boy.

The Functional Idiot is someone, who can read, write, and even fill out an application. He/she has a driver's license, and can program their TIVO. Yet, when it comes to logical thinking, they fall flat on their faces. To them things should be according to a Utopian Ideal, and there is only one entity that can solve Their perceived problems: The Almighty State.

Furthermore, the fact that they hate big business, the highly successful, or anyone who has accomplished more than they, they still Love the largest and most dangerous entity/corporative grouping in the world: Big Government. They even fail to realize that it is the very State that is responsible for giving certain businesses(the ones they deplore) powers they should not posess. What makes them actually believe that they can harness this dangerous beast is what makes them Functional Idiots. They are dangerous to themselves, and others.

Needless to say, they should not be allowed to vote.

Now be a good little bloke and play with yourself in the corner, where you will not be so obvious to right thinking people.

Remember, Children are meant to be seen, but not heard.

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it doesn't matter, retail consumers is not their primary target, they make a fortune with corporations, their license contract force them to upgrade to latest Windows version if they want support, or else they are fucked

This is true. At our place we're moving away from licensed applications and using free stuff like Thunderbird and Open Office, as it's just too expensive to use licensed English language software. Another company I know moved over to Linux for everyone in the office a couple of years ago and is very happy.

I don't agree that they are actually "forced" to conform, but there are certainly pressures, just as there are with just about everything else in the world, where humans interact.

However, getting away from Microsoft, I view as a good thing, in many respects. Without good solid competition, there is no real incintive for Redmond Wa. to put their noses to the grindstone and come up with a good product that the public can tet better service.

I currently use Linux as well as Microsoft,a nd find it to be almost within reach of being a viable alternative to Windows. I figure a couple more upgrades, and they will finally have arrived. And to my thinking, this could not come at a sooner time.

Linux has really come a long way in the last few years, thank heavens!

Originally Posted by John L

I just use one OS for each drive. All I have to do is just turn off the computer, remove the current OS, and insert another one, and turn the computer back on. That way I don't have to make a choice between which OS I want to use every time I reboot my compter. I absolutely hate to have to keep hitting keys every time I restart or reboot the computer. It's a total waste of time.

How can having to remove and reinsert hard drives to change the OS be more efficient than a few keystrokes?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ John, are you retarded or just trolling again ?

Both, by the looks of it.

Now he claims Japan was a "Leftist regime" during WW2.

Originally Posted by Plan B

Originally Posted by John L

I just use one OS for each drive. All I have to do is just turn off the computer, remove the current OS, and insert another one, and turn the computer back on. That way I don't have to make a choice between which OS I want to use every time I reboot my compter. I absolutely hate to have to keep hitting keys every time I restart or reboot the computer. It's a total waste of time.

How can having to remove and reinsert hard drives to change the OS be more efficient than a few keystrokes?

It's far better because if something goes wrong with the HD, you have two screwed up OSs. And since storage is so cheap, it is better to have the OSs seperate from each other.

Also, if you turn off your system when not in use, you are better off, than leaving it on all the time. Parts wear out. And every time you reboot, you have to be around to hit the keyboard to decide what you want. If you have seperate HDs, you just turn on the computer, go out and fix your coffee, and when you return, you are ready to 'rock'.

It's just always good policy to seperate OSs, just as it is always good policy to use an exterior HD to back up your files and folders you value.

I love my 'removable tray' setup. Serious! It is so easy, cheap, and I never have to worry about one OS getting mixed up with the other.

Originally Posted by stroller

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ John, are you retarded or just trolling again ?

Both, by the looks of it.

Now he claims Japan was a "Leftist regime" during WW2.

I love you too Stroll.

Originally Posted by Plan B

How can having to remove and reinsert hard drives to change the OS be more efficient than a few keystrokes?

Right, actually with the GRUB bootloader installed in the MBR just a push on tje "down arrow" key boots XP, doing nothing boots Linux. And some genius want to convince us that removing and inserting a harddisk is simplier.

Maybe John L could explain why it's simplier than pushing a key ? In both cases you have to reboot the machine.

Originally Posted by John L

Also, if you turn off your system when not in use, you are better off, than leaving it on all the time.

In the middle age maybe, but it's no more the case. What about the web servers who run 24/7 for years ?

Originally Posted by Wallalai

Originally Posted by Plan B

How can having to remove and reinsert hard drives to change the OS be more efficient than a few keystrokes?

Right, actually with the GRUB bootloader installed in the MBR just a push on tje "down arrow" key boots XP, doing nothing boots Linux. And some genius want to convince us that removing and inserting a harddisk is simplier.

Maybe John L could explain why it's simplier than pushing a key ? In both cases you have to reboot the machine.

That's fine, if you want to load up your hard drive with more than one OS, that's your business. To me it's simplier to use one most of the time, which is XP, and ocassionally go to one of two or three brands of Linux, when I wish, by reinserting that OS.

If I reboot, I just click on the "Reboot" or "Turn off" button, and forget about having to go back to the computer. I almost always turn off my computer at night, because of the wear and tear on moving parts, such as fans, and hard drive discs. I used to keep my computer on all the time, until the cooling fan to my Athalon went out and I burned it up.

If I reboot, just that one button needs be pushed and I can come back to a fully loaded desktop.

If you like it the other way, feel free. It's your computer.

^ actually JohnL, turning off and on the HD is what destroy them, you would be better off leaving them on all the time and use GRUB as a boot loader

You seem to be very much misinformed on that topic, one more among many others I might add

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