Thread: Obama's priorities...let's take a look

Originally Posted by stroller

I do not wish to spend much of my time refuting the 'factual' basis and false conclusions quoted from a blog, when the author is not present to communicate with, specially if the copy/pasting poster hasn't done his homework to assess what is quoted for its validity and relevance. When this debating 'style' becomes the preferred modus, instead of presenting one's own reasoning - the effort is one-sided and becomes a waste of time.

exactly. but he probably won't take notice because he didn't read it on a blog.

Pa. voters divided over Obama remarks

SHENANDOAH, Pa. - Yes, some Democrats in Pennsylvania's Rust Belt communities were upset by Barack Obama's suggestion that voters there "cling to guns or religion" because of bitterness about their economic lot. But many more seem to think it was no big deal — and if there's a problem it's with the political slapfest that has followed.

Dennis Yezulinas, another Clinton supporter in Shenandoah, said he is more offended by the rhetorical fight that followed Obama's comment than by the remark itself.
"Not just for the good of the Democratic Party, but for the good of the country, they need to make it less contentious," said Yezulinas, a former state prison guard who has been laid off from a plant that manufactures doors in a neighboring town.

Pa. voters divided over Obama remarks - Yahoo! News

I keep saying it. This negative shit-slinging by both candidates will continue to destroy both Clinton and Obama. This seems especially evident with the Bill Clinton supporters - a large portion have said they'll back McCain. The Democrats will self destruct by the convention and McCain will cruise to victory if it doesn't stop.

all this hand wringing over the dem nomination process is only revealing a surprising level of naiveté by some board members....in others it just further displays their woeful ignorance on american politics.

it's april.

try to keep that in mind.

Well, Ray, here's how your precious pussy ass Democrats are treating their best candidate:

Where are Dem "Leaders" While Barack Twists and Hillary Burns the Party Down?

For four days now Barack Obama has stood all but alone, valiantly defending himself against charges of elitism from multi-millionaires Bill and Hillary Clinton and dozens of their surrogates, untold numbers of Republicans, and the bulk of the media.

Where has the leadership of the Democratic Party been during these relentless attempts to slander and destroy the electability of their likely Presidential nominee? About the only Democrat to publicly step forward to defend Obama is Bob Casey. Where is Nancy Pelosi? Where is John Edwards? Where is Al Gore? Where is Ted Kennedy? Where is Howard Dean, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson, John Kerry, Rahm Emanuel, Jim Webb, Chuck Schumer, Wesley Clark, and untold others.

It's not a matter of whether a Democratic leader has endorsed Obama, Clinton, or is still officially neutral. The son of an absent father and a single mother--a man who, despite massive student loans, graduated from one Ivy League college to take a job for $8,000 a year helping unemployed steelworkers in Chicago; who chose to go from Harvard Law Review, not to a Wall Street law firm where he could soon earn millions advising corporation on how to offshore jobs and avoid taxes, but to a small civil rights firm in Chicago; who has devoted his entire adult life to helping the underdog--stands accused by the wealthy and powerful of elitism while leading Democrats stand silently by.

Miles Mogulescu: Where are Dem "Leaders" While Barack Twists and Hillary Burns the Party Down? - Politics on The Huffington Post

if clinton does not blow out obama (20 points +) in each of the following three contests, i think party 'elders' will make "behind the scenes" contact with the clintons and ask her to step aside. if she rebuffs them, they may very well go public....and once that happens, she's officially toast because her only remaining chance at the nomination is having the superdelegates override the voters.

Yeh, Politicians are spineless.

Obama does have his work cut out in Pennsylvania though- this was always going to be the the case, although the much hyped comments he made in SF haven't helped.

^ Ignoring 'dem Polls as usual booner?

Originally Posted by sabang

^ Ignoring 'dem Polls as usual booner?

Not really although it's a bit too early to take credence w/poll numbers.
After the conventions we'll get a better idea...

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Not really although it's a bit too early to take credence w/poll numbers.

how many polls have you cited in the last few weeks?

and what's worse is that they were usually daily tracking polls done by foxnews' resident poller rasmussen.

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Not really although it's a bit too early to take credence w/poll numbers.

how many polls have you cited in the last few weeks?

and what's worse is that they were usually daily tracking polls done by foxnews' resident poller rasmussen.

Gotta keep your eye on the ball, eh?

so which is then? these polls are relevant or aren't they?

go check what the blogs say and get back to us.

They are relevant when suitable for bashing Clinton or Obama, and will be more so at times when MCCain figures look good.

Originally Posted by stroller

They are relevant when suitable for bashing Clinton or Obama, and will be more so at times when MCCain figures look good.

Actually, Vegas odds are probably the most revelant - gotta check them later in the 'season'...

this thread is about obama's priorities, right? well, here's one...

Obama said that as president he would indeed ask his new Attorney General and his deputies to "immediately review the information that's already there" and determine if an inquiry is warranted -- but he also tread carefully on the issue, in line with his reputation for seeking to bridge the partisan divide. He worried that such a probe could be spun as "a partisan witch hunt." However, he said that equation changes if there was willful criminality, because "nobody is above the law."

Obama would ask his AG to "immediately review" potential of crimes in Bush White House | Philadelphia Daily News | 04/14/2008

Ya gotta love it!
It's now being called: Cracker-quiddick

Michelle Malkin » Cracker-quiddick Fallout Continues To Haunt SnObama

What Pennsylvanians really are bitter about.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I see OB is wearing a flag pin now.

Fascinating, I wonder how this will impact the polls in the next few days?

^ $10 he starts placing his hand over his heart for the pledge, too.

The image on the video is not so clear, do you reckon it is something like this one: , or something more fancy: ?