Thread: Obama's priorities...let's take a look

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Uh...don't think this is the guy we want in the WH

uh...is this supposed to be some sort of a newsflash? you've made your position clear ad nauseam.

and regarding your equally repeated claim that this position is not based on his race, "methinks the lady doth protest too much."

At least it's an interesting article, quite a step up from your last linked blog booner.
It's from The American Conservative magazine, basically a book review but fairly informative about Obama's life. Dunno why you change the title of the links.

a cowardly manifestation of intellectual dishonesty?

Originally Posted by sabang

At least it's an interesting article, quite a step up from your last linked blog booner.
It's from The American Conservative magazine, basically a book review but fairly informative about Obama's life. Dunno why you change the title of the links.

Yes, I read that too. Quite interesting. All candidates for the highest office in the US and most powerful position in the world will be guilty of crafting their image carefully in their ambition to be something great. If the that summary of Obama's book is correct, it does appear that he clearly chose to be black, but also clearly had the advantages of an upper class white upbringing. The author suggests that Obama harbors deep resentment toward his white mother and his white side, and in fact does not like whites. It further suggests that he uses his charisma and good looks and ethnicity to attract white women to his views. The issue of race is not going away in this election.

Originally Posted by chinthee

The issue of race is not going away in this election.

some (ahem) just won't let it.

Originally Posted by chinthee

If the that summary of Obama's book is correct, it does appear that he clearly chose to be black, but also clearly had the advantages of an upper class white upbringing....The issue of race is not going away in this election.

I wouldn't say upper class upbringing. Mom had to dump him at Granma's in Hawaii for awhile. (Mom seemed like the typical white chicks that love to have a black/ethnic lover/husband to feel special.) I read both of Bambi's books early last year -- Dreams from My Father and The Audacity of Hope. Through most of the first book, I thought he was an honest man, filled with integrity and the aim to do good for America. Then, he starts blabbing about the race card and puffing up his image as a do-gooder.
Yep, as Boon Mee noted with his "nose plugs", I think Republicans and many Dems will suck it up and vote for McCain. I also find it amusing that you've been bashed for wrong nominee picks Booners. I picked McCain right from the start and not one of these pansies has pointed that out. Guess they only beat ya if they think you are down. (Emphasis on think, although that can be an alien concept for some of them.)

Well, Well, Well

GOD DAMN BARACK OBAMA Plagiarized from the web Tuesday, 18 March 2008
That didn't take long, did it? That's the way it is with frenzies, whether they're dotcom bubbles or phony messiahs. A few moments of "the madness of crowds," then it's down the rabbit hole of history.

So there goes another Great Black Hope, the Great Liberal Dream of absolution from America's racist sins dashed yet again. Better luck in 2012 or 2112, O ye liberal sinners, because it's over in 2008. Obama is toast.

You know he's toast when Chris Matthews, who poses as a tough-guy bully but is really just a liberal pussy wallowing in white guilt, goes apoplectically over the top proclaiming Obama's speech in Philly today to be "one of the great speeches in American history," surpassing Martin Luther King's I Have A Dream and "worthy of Abraham Lincoln."

To see the total absurdity of this, try imagining Martin Luther King's reaction to a Jeremiah Wright sermon. You can be quite confident he would publicly denounce it as the most vile racism and walk out of the church. Obambi and his not-proud-of-her-country wife stayed for 20 years.

This smooth-talking charismatic con man is lying through his teeth when he said he wasn't really aware of his pastor sermonizing "God Damn America." God Damn America? No, God Damn Barack Obama.

Damn him because he pretends to be a "healer" of America's "racial wounds," yet belongs to a church of hatred for America. Damn him for his being such a profoundly false messiah, for saying exactly what should not be said:

"Race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now."

That's a quote from his Philly speech, and his main argument. Yet "race" is exactly what our country should ignore, and the whole victimist guilt-mongering grievance-politics scam that goes with it.

If there is anybody positioned to argue this, it should be this half-white/half African-black guy, a guy who is not a member of any one race, a guy who is not African-American at all but outside any racial category.

Obama is not African-American in any way whatever. He has no ancestor who was brought over here in chains from Africa to be a slave. He has nothing in common with Americans who did have such ancestors.

But his wife does. She's one of them. And tragically for The Obamarama, she chose to hate America for it. (There's a fascinating discussion of how she does by the pseudonymous Spengler in the Hong Kong publication Asia Times.)

If Obama had married a normal woman and went to a normal church and if if if if, he would argue that race is unimportant, that it does not matter what racial tribe you belong to. What matters is who you are as an individual human being.

What matters is that you, no matter what your racial ancestry, have had the incredible good fortune to be an American. What matters is that you live in a country that enables you, more than any country that has ever existed in history or exists right now, to achieve a life worth living.

That is what matters, not race, and that is why America is a morally beautiful country, a morally noble nation. That is why Americans can so proudly sing God Bless America and cannot sing it without tears in their eyes.

And that is why a follower of a preacher of racist hate who shouts hatred of whites and Jews and America in his sermons no longer has any chance to reside in the White House.

Because this still is a country with a majority of patriots, and because of YouTube.

Thanks to YouTube, videos of "Reverend Wright" preaching God Damn America have now been seen by scores of millions. There's no way to take it back, no way to ignore it, no way to excuse it.

The frosting on the cake is that Hillary gets the blame. These videos have been on YouTube for some time. Sean Hannity has been complaining about Obama's church for a long time. Only when the story felicitously (for Hillary) explodes on major TV news channels like ABC does it acquire legs.

You can count on blacks blaming Hillary for planting the videos and story with ABC, with destroying Obama's candidacy - Hillary, not conservatives, not Republicans, not John McCain. This is just too, too wonderful.

The Democrat Party is about to implode. Vast masses of Democrats will be rendered catatonic when they realize that Obama is finished yet they have to give him the nomination in order to get the black vote yet they have to give it to Hillary because she's arm-twisted the superdelegates because no one who sings God Bless America will vote for Hussein Obambi in the general.

Obama is history, the Dems are stuck with Hillary, and they will come unglued with panic that McCain will win in a Reaganesque electoral sweep. The blacks will blame Hillary, the white Dems will blame Obama. We're talking Democrat Götterdämerung.

Thanks, Obambi. We really appreciate it - really. You have damned your party and yourself. You may now go to hell.

^ Written by a Dr. Jack Wheeler.

I think we can safely assume he is a card carrying republican, who would love nothing better than to be right. We shall see.

Originally Posted by blackgang

"Race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now."

That's a quote from his Philly speech, and his main argument. Yet "race" is exactly what our country should ignore, and the whole victimist guilt-mongering grievance-politics scam that goes with it.

I totally agree with this man's statement (not Obama's). Race nor gender should be an issue in this campaign. Bambi is bringing about another racial chasm. The whole point should be who is the most able to lead. I saw a black man in his African hat sitting behind Bam at a speech, his head held back in scorn, looking down his nose and just waiting so he can spit on the white man. This is not what is needed. Black, white, Asian, native. I don't care who leads as long as he/she is tolerant and perceptive of everyone's needs and wants. Not someone who will divide the nation.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Guess they only beat ya if they think you are down. (Emphasis on think, although that can be an alien concept for some of them.)

Why would "they" beat you for having guessed the right nominee?
Now let's assess from your answer whether you got a thinking cap to put on.

Originally Posted by blackgang

Plagiarized from the web Tuesday, 18 March 2008

Yes, blackgang, as usual.
"Well well well" is more of an introductory take from your side than one may hope for, well done.

A Brief for Whitey
by Patrick J. Buchanan (more by this author)
Posted 03/21/2008 ET




How would he pull it off? I wondered.

How would Barack explain to his press groupies why he sat silent in a pew for 20 years as the Rev. Jeremiah Wright delivered racist rants against white America for our maligning of Fidel and Gadhafi, and inventing AIDS to infect and kill black people?

How would he justify not walking out as Wright spewed his venom about "the U.S. of K.K.K. America," and howled, "God damn America!"

My hunch was right. Barack would turn the tables.

Yes, Barack agreed, Wright's statements were "controversial," and "divisive," and "racially charged," reflecting a "distorted view of America."

But we must understand the man in full and the black experience out of which the Rev. Wright came: 350 years of slavery and segregation.

Barack then listed black grievances and informed us what white America must do to close the racial divide and heal the country.

The "white community," said Barack, must start "acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination -- and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past -- are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds ... ."

And what deeds must we perform to heal ourselves and our country?

The "white community" must invest more money in black schools and communities, enforce civil rights laws, ensure fairness in the criminal justice system and provide this generation of blacks with "ladders of opportunity" that were "unavailable" to Barack's and the Rev. Wright's generations.

What is wrong with Barack's prognosis and Barack's cure?

Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, "everybody but the rioters themselves."

Was "white racism" really responsible for those black men looting auto dealerships and liquor stories, and burning down their own communities, as Otto Kerner said -- that liberal icon until the feds put him away for bribery.

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Barack talks about new "ladders of opportunity" for blacks.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for "deserving" white kids.

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.


Mr. Buchanan is a nationally syndicated columnist and author of "The Death of the West," "The Great Betrayal," "A Republic, Not an Empire" and "Where the Right Went Wrong."

Originally Posted by sabang

^ Written by a Dr. Jack Wheeler.

I think we can safely assume he is a card carrying republican, who would love nothing better than to be right. We shall see.

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If it's the same Jack Wheeler he developed Reagan's strategy for helping along the breakup of the Soviet Union. Wheeler's right-wing, yes, but he's no dummy.

The "white community," said Barack, must start "acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination -- and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past -- are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds ... ."

And what deeds must we perform to heal ourselves and our country?

The "white community" must invest more money in black schools and communities, enforce civil rights laws, ensure fairness in the criminal justice system and provide this generation of blacks with "ladders of opportunity" that were "unavailable" to Barack's and the Rev. Wright's generations.

What is wrong with Barack's prognosis and Barack's cure?

Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, "everybody but the rioters themselves."

Was "white racism" really responsible for those black men looting auto dealerships and liquor stories, and burning down their own communities, as Otto Kerner said -- that liberal icon until the feds put him away for bribery.
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What a load of twaddle.
"shakedown", "con", "black hustlers"...
Obama is not Kerner, nor do his words relate to or blame anyone for race-riots.

The reason why I've tuned out of this election at this time is that the issues have already been discussed and spun.

With 7 months to go, there will be smart-alec comments by the candidates, their supporters, their opponents, and it's very childish.

Here's the main thing that is bullshit,

The "white community" must invest more money in black schools and communities, enforce civil rights laws, ensure fairness in the criminal justice system and provide this generation of blacks with "ladders of opportunity" that were "unavailable" to Barack's and the Rev. Wright's generations.

There is no more "Black Schools" and have not been since the mid 60s, the new schools that were built for the Blacks were closed and black kids were bussed into schools in white areas that had been predominately white because of whites living in that school district.

And Obama is to young to have been in the generation of segregation and Rev. Jeremiah Wright,
Plus the fact that he was living outside the USA for the early years wasn't he, I seem to remember something about him going to Muslim school in Malaysia or Indonesia.

You're gonna pay for what you did to my great-great granpappy coz he was a slave?
Yes, it's been done before. I hear now that in Australia, where residents used to distinguish that their families immigrated to separate themselves from the citizens whose ancestors were brought over as convicts, has seen an aboutface, with some convict descendents now proud as punch to have that legacy. Hell, I would be,
Hey, I should try to sue Ireland for the potato famine that drove my great granpappy from his homeland to America. Or maybe I can sue Germany for something. Or Sweden or Norway. 555
Quit living in the past. Bambi never had a hard time, and neither did his ranting wife. Why is he so infatuated with his father, who dumped him and his mom when he was still a toddler? I think he should be ashamed o hisself for calling his grandmother a typical white person and a racist. I bet she is ashamed of him.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Hey, I should try to sue Ireland for the potato famine that drove my great granpappy from his homeland to America.

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Err, you'd have to sue England for that. Still, I'd be up for a class action suit if you like, I'm sure there'd be no problem finding a few million others to join in

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Hey, I should try to sue Ireland for the potato famine that drove my great granpappy from his homeland to America. Or maybe I can sue Germany for something. Or Sweden or Norway. 555

What's this got to do with any of Obama's policies? Or race issues in the US?

^ Analogy, Strolls, analogy.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Hey, I should try to sue Ireland for the potato famine that drove my great granpappy from his homeland to America.

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Err, you'd have to sue England for that. Still, I'd be up for a class action suit if you like, I'm sure there'd be no problem finding a few million others to join in

I don't think it would go over coz we're white.

^
It wouldn't go over because the government had not caused the famine, didn't force them to leave nor had they captured anyone and sold them as slaves in the US, Silly.

A completely different issue.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

Analogy, Strolls, analogy.

I don't see any similarities there at all. Completely unrelated to any Obama policies.

^ You are so entertaining, Strollems. If that was the US, you'd be screaming for their "famine" benefits. Save them! Hey, the blacks can get passports and go back to Africa. If they hate America, why don't they? You're probably going to start blaming us whiteys for what happened in past generations. Let's take a look at Germany, shall we?
Analogy, Stroll. Your new word for the day? Bet you had to look it up.

Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

^ You are so entertaining, Strollems. If that was the US, you'd be screaming for their "famine" benefits.Save them!

You're too late, dear, it was more than 150 years ago.

Hey, the blacks can get passports and go back to Africa. If they hate America, why don't they? You're probably going to start blaming us whiteys for what happened in past generations.

Looks like they are there to stay, better get used to it, together with your "White realist" friends.

Let's take a look at Germany, shall we?

Have anther glass of Chardonnay and go ahead.

Analogy, Stroll. Your new word for the day? Bet you had to look it up.

Since it is a common word of Greek/Latin origin, it is almost universally understood. In German: Analogie.
Surprisingly you still fail to realise it is not applicable in your apple and carrot comparison.

Any luck with finding out what "bible-basher" and "bible-thumper" mean yet?