chirp, chirp
Jamie Leigh Jones, why are you so quiet?
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chirp, chirp
Jamie Leigh Jones, why are you so quiet?
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Last edited by Texpat; 12-01-2008 at 04:00 PM. Reason: Leigh vice Lee
Me too, they are re-designed and rebuilt inside into living quarters, set single or multi-story, and out at the rigs, on job sites, on barges and derricks, and the redo is done and then they are called Porta-Kamps.Originally Posted by Texpat
I worked for RMKBRJ, Halliburton/Brown & Root, and in all the time I worked for them, No one ever tried to fuck me, or even screw me out of any money..
But it sure fires people up when they read in a story the poor girl was locked up in a shipping container, like an animal.
Evidence of that on this thread.
Well if she had, why wouldn't it?Originally Posted by Texpat
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Some are fitted-out nicer than my house. Oak panneling, wall to wall berber carpeting. etc.
Many years ago they used to fit shipping containers they'd load into cargo airplanes to cary the Air Force generals around the world in -- when VIP planes weren't available. King size bed, lamps, video, stocked fridge ... all top notch stuff.
The story doesn't specify what kind of "shipping container" she was "caged" in.
Well it does say:Originally Posted by Texpat
And does it really matter? If her story is true and she was indeed held captive and raped is it somehow better if the shipping container she was held in was the 5-star luxary, super-deluxe version of shipping container accomodation!?... Jones says she was held in the shipping container for at least 24 hours without food or water by KBR, which posted armed security guards outside her door, who would not let her leave. Jones described the container as sparely furnished with a bed, table and lamp...
It's really all kinda beside the point and extranenous in my opinion. The focus should be on a young woman who may (or indeed may not have) been raped and deprived of her liberty - not the conditions of some container.
OR, It could read this way too.
Some of the guys had made a deal with a raghead and scored on a couple of quarts of Sadeky and invited this broad up to the room in the porta-kamp we were living in, had aircon, color TV and sterio so we were all set for a party.
Well this broad could not hold her juice very well, but you know how Sakeky is, anyway about 2 drinks and she is outta her threads and dancing on the table, we all get nekked and then she flips out and runs wild and they had to lock her in her own room to keep her inside the compound.
Fukin dolly was a mental case when she got a few drinks, Coarse the Sadek was a tad strong.
maybe something like that.![]()
You're right. I'd forgotten as it's been about a month since I read the story.
And I'm still waiting to hear the outcome -- wondering where the doctors went, wondering where the evidence disappeared to, wondering why she didn't name her attackers. etc etc.
At the moment not convinced either way.
From the complaint (in a nutshell):
Aside from an incident with her original supervisor, whom she named, she has also named one of the assailants in the main assaults (Charles Boartz). The complaint also alleges that some of the men had previous convictions that were relevant to the safety of the complainant (which goes to the liability of the company).
The assaults she alleges to have taken place while she was quartered in the same area as the men. She claims to have been unconscious (possibly Rohypnol-induced) at the time of these assaults. She awoke with not insignificant injuries and subsequently found Boartz lying on a bed in her room. After the rape kit examination, she was quartered in the container (presumably for her own safety or feeling of safety). Certain things were said to her by company people (about her job future) and she subsequently persuaded a guard to let her make a telephone call.
The document is a complaint form only - it only contains the allegations, not the method by which they are to be proven. She can only identify one attacker visually and if the rape kit has disappeared and other evidentiary materials have not been collected, then it only leaves the words of those involved, the medical observations, the surrounding (uncontested) circumstances, and her demeanour and (perhaps) first complaint. However, it is only a civil case (balance of probilities). Even without the rape kit, the medical staff who examined her would be essential witnesses on her behalf. It may be that there will be information from some form of investigation as well, but that fact would not normally be disclosed in the complaint. (If any formal investigation had established the identity of other people involved, you would expect to see those people actually named. Something rather piss poor seems to have happened in that respect.)
Notwithstanding, I don't see 'big' holes - I see a supervisor and middle management level cover-up and reliance upon the special legal circumstances in respect of any possible criminal action. Despite the little material that is available, I'd back this one to be found in her favour at least in relation to the main assaults and some of the related complaints. I would have backed it to settle if it were not for the complaint regarding her earlier supervisor's conduct, but it may settle in any event - the company will be in 100% damage-control mode.
Last edited by Ping; 13-01-2008 at 01:16 AM.
Islamic War zone?? What the fuck that means??
Damn if I know either, seems like there would be no war zones in anyplace that was populated by the religion of Peace and brotherly love.![]()
Jamie Leigh Jones, where are you?
for all the halliburton apologists on this thread...
how would you feel if your wife, sister or mother was treated in this way? would you still be commenting on the oak paneling that may or may not have been in the shipping container where she was held captive?
would you still be expecting her to hold press conferences to satiate the morbid curiosity of those that doubt her claims?
chirp, chirp indeed.
which of her claims do you doubt?Originally Posted by Boon Mee
Attys: Iraq Rape Case Belongs in Court
By JUAN A. LOZANO
Mar 5, 2008
HOUSTON (AP) — A woman who says co-workers raped her while she was a contractor in Iraq should have her case tried in court, not settled in private arbitration, her lawyer told a federal judge Wednesday.
In a federal lawsuit, Jamie Leigh Jones says she was drugged, raped and held against her will in a storage locker while working for KBR Inc., then a subsidiary of Halliburton Co., in 2005.
As part of her employment, Jones agreed to settle claims against the company in arbitration. But she never imagined such claims would include being imprisoned in a storage locker, said one of her attorneys, L. Todd Kelly.
Attorneys for Halliburton and KBR argued that the contract Jones signed binds her to settle all claims — including claims of sexual assault — against her former employer through arbitration.
Halliburton attorney W. Carl Jordan said that because the purported attack is said to have happened in Halliburton-provided barracks, it ties any claims Jones makes to her employment.
Attorneys for Halliburton, KBR and other subsidiaries that have been sued have disputed Jones' allegations. KBR split from Halliburton last year.
U.S. District Judge Keith Ellison is expected to rule at a later date.
Jones sued in May, saying she was raped by co-workers at Camp Hope, Baghdad, in 2005.
The Associated Press usually does not identify people who say they have been sexually assaulted, but Jones' face and name have been broadcast in media reports and on her own Web site.
According to the lawsuit, Jones endured harassment by some of the men living in her barracks and was drugged and raped on July 28, 2005. Her attackers were firefighters for Halliburton and KBR, the suit alleges.
Jones said she was kept in a shipping container for a day so she wouldn't report the assault.
Jordan rebutted Jones' claim that she was held against her will, saying she received medical care and was able to call her family.
"Ms. Jones has changed her account several times," Jordan said.
Kelly argued that the attack was not related to Jones' employment and that she was not "a 24-hour employee."
"If she had been on call or required to work out of her living space, then she could be seen to be in her work area," he said.
In January, a judge in a similar lawsuit, filed in federal court in Houston by another female contract worker, ruled the case should be settled through arbitration.
In December, Jones detailed her allegations to a congressional subcommittee.
Several members of Congress have criticized the Justice, State and Defense departments for the way the case was handled. Congress has pressured the Bush administration to force U.S. contractors in Iraq to offer better their employees better protection from crimes.
Paul Bresson, a spokesman for the Justice Department, said Wednesday that his agency is investigating Jones' case but declined to comment further.
The Associated Press: Attys: Iraq Rape Case Belongs in Court
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any comments on the above article, or do you fancy yourself a media clearinghouse for TD members?
I don't know, but it seems to me that she was on her own time, not on company time, she chose to party with the guys, and guys do get horny and booze seems to make things a bit difficult to figure out, and she might have brought some of this on herself for trying to be "Just one of the gang", so it is just a little hard to say what is Black and what is White and what is Grey, I wasn't there and have no idea what happened, but have been on enough CO-ED jobs to know that sometimes people are out of their areas with personal acts and sometimes things do happen.
I don't fancy myself anything. Contrary to your opinion, snide and judgemental comments need not follow every post. Just waiting for the trial. Nothing new -- keeping it on the front burner. I notice you didn't post any comments about the article either.
Fancy yourself the Issues schoolmarm?![]()
Jamie Leigh Jones -- where are you?
We haven't forgotten about you.![]()
Yes Darling, where are you.
Come and tell us a story about partying with them nasty roughnecks and how you wake up with a hangover and a sore ass.
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