McCain (the Reagan foot soldier) looking good

**barbaro** · 01-02-2008, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

MM

a couple of unresolved matters....

1. why is jeb bush 'brilliant'.

My statement of 'brilliant' is a bit over-the-top, using that term for anyone. Jeb seems intelligent, and I like his background in that he studied in Latin America, got a BA in Latin American studies, and then went to work in a bank. Jeb is not a big government guy, at least this is what I recall. GWB is a big government spend crazy politician. (Yes, he did have connections, being a Bush family member.)

I made this statement with the assumption, that since another Bushie got into office, and elected, it should have been Jeb instead of GWB. Jeb, was an original signer of the PNAC, too. So, me not like him, too much.

Hypothetical, now.

2. do you know anyone in their 70s? and if so, do any of them still have the wherewithal to hold what should be one of the most demanding jobs in the world?

Yes, I know people in their 70s, and even 80s and 90s.

Yes, I think being 72 (he'll be 73 in August) is too old to be President, mentally and physically.

My comment was as it is now: age may not be a factor in the election, if McCain is the nominee. His choice of VP will be very crucial.

**skycop51** · 02-02-2008, 11:26 AM

How important that Mc has selected a Great Vice President. I am not sure he will live out his term. Look at him...as I have said he looks very tired and old. IMHO

skcop51

**chinthee** · 02-02-2008, 11:38 AM

Reagan was very fortunate to have a youthful appearance, and I don't remember but think he was much older than McCain when first elected?

**William** · 02-02-2008, 11:55 AM

^going to show that even without politicians, a country can run itself...

**Hootad Binky** · 06-02-2008, 08:34 AM

McCain, the fiscal conservative/war hero, up against an adulterer, a preacher, a libertarian, and a Mormon

Basically, the lunatic fringe of the Republican party, not exactly a tough field.

I think Romney is the best of the lot. Unfortunately, many evangelicals, representing 30% of voting Republicans, consider Mormonism a "cult" = campaign over! He must have known this from the start.

**Butterfly** · 06-02-2008, 09:06 AM

What happened to Ron Paul ?

**raycarey** · 06-02-2008, 10:16 AM

it appers ever more likely that mccain is going to get the republican nomination. and IMO that's a good thing because it will force the debate to the center---which is where most americans are politically. the divisive, rovian machinations of the last 8 years haven't done anything for the country, except drive it apart.

**barbaro** · 06-02-2008, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Butterfly

What happened to Ron Paul ?

Ron Paul is still campaigning and spreading his message.

racarey:

it appers ever more likely that mccain is going to get the republican nomination. and IMO that's a good thing because it will force the debate to the center---which is where most americans are politically. the divisive, rovian machinations of the last 8 years haven't done anything for the country, except drive it apart.

Yeah, most of the U.S. is at the Center, and therfore I want to see politicians from the Center. They can dole out little tokens to those on the fringe, but I want someone from the Center political, culturally, and economically.

**Norton** · 06-02-2008, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

it appers ever more likely that mccain is going to get the republican nomination. and IMO that's a good thing because it will force the debate to the center---which is where most americans are politically. the divisive, rovian machinations of the last 8 years haven't done anything for the country, except drive it apart.

McCain's moderate position is refreshing and long awaited as you well point out.

Given his position on the Iraq war, I would guess he shouldn't be expecting your vote however!

**raycarey** · 06-02-2008, 02:34 PM

not even close to getting my vote. but he seems like a decent man, and i look forward to a national debate which focuses on where the country is headed---not one that is corrupted by rovian wedge issues like 'same sex marriage' and abortion.

besides, he'll never beat obama. the majority of americans are not going to vote for someone older than their grandfather to president. he'll be 76 or 77 when he's finished (if he lives that long or doesn't have a stroke)...and it's very well documented that he hasn't had an easy life.

**Mr Earl** · 06-02-2008, 07:01 PM

It's gonna get interesting: McCain vs Obama in the general election.
The true war hero political heavy against the brilliant orator political youth.

**Bluecat** · 06-02-2008, 07:08 PM

Mc Cain is too old, Obama is too young.
Well, I bet on a female US president next time.
But whoever it is, it is anyway going to be a relief...

**BobbyTits** · 06-02-2008, 07:11 PM

If you look at the turn out figures at how many Democrats are showing up to vote in the primaries there is a very good chance that McCain will be having his ass handed to him come November.

**Boon Mee** · 12-02-2008, 09:17 PM

A pic of John McCain staring at EM Zanotti's chest.

**BobbyTits** · 12-02-2008, 09:24 PM

**Boon Mee** · 12-02-2008, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

not even close to getting my vote. but he seems like a decent man, and i look forward to a national debate which focuses on where the country is headed---not one that is corrupted by rovian wedge issues like 'same sex marriage' and abortion.

Well, thankfully, not all Americans share your values then eh, ray? Some do but definitely not the majority.

"A woman should just get over her 'internalized guilt' about having an abortion which is in fact nothing more than killing a 'tapeworm.'"

Tapeworm, eh?

The Dawn Patrol

**raycarey** · 12-02-2008, 09:37 PM

^^you've totally missed the point--again.

and why do you insist of citing bloggers? boonie, nobody cares.

**Boon Mee** · 12-02-2008, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

^^you've totally missed the point--again.

and why do you insist of citing bloggers? boonie, nobody cares.

It's illustrative of how corrupt some of the population's morals have become. Abortion is not a 'rovian (sic) wedge issue'...

**Hootad Binky** · 22-02-2008, 08:35 AM

Found this on a we're-suspicious-of-everybody veterans' site:

John McCain's suicide attempt and his resulting PTSD

Betrayal, deceit, corruption and John McCain

Sen. McCain Still Wants To Be President
Take a look at his un-presidential credentials

John McCain Is No "Hero POW"
He was a survivor

John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate

McCain Divorce Settlement Outlined

**Boon Mee** · 22-02-2008, 07:37 PM

Well, like it or not, McCain is the preferable choice come this November.

**Norton** · 22-02-2008, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, like it or not, McCain is the preferable choice come this November.

Most recent national polls (6 source average) show Obama has a 5.5% lead over McCain. McCain has a 4.5% lead over Clinton.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - National Polls

**Hootad Binky** · 24-02-2008, 02:23 AM

^ There's also a lot more democrats coming out to vote, but that may change with backlash to the NYT article.

**Boon Mee** · 28-02-2008, 05:37 AM

There seems to some support for John McCain to pick Alaska Govenor Sarah Palin as his VP.

Easy to see why, eh?

For once, a Babe in the White House!

Power Line

**obsidian** · 28-02-2008, 05:51 AM

alaska? an arizonan and an alaskan. no way.

**Hootad Binky** · 28-02-2008, 07:03 AM

Looks like McCain is attacking Obama over Iraq; he seems to forget the majority of the American public does not support the war.

Better Iraq be McCain's undoing in the Presidential race than as a term as President...

And hasn't McCain been diagnosed with cancer in the past?

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