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Originally Posted by Thormaturge I see no need for ordinary civilians to own guns unless they belong to properly controlled clubs where the guns are kept. | You sound like a real control freak, up to you what I can have in my home |
Really? Does America not control vehicle exhaust omissions? Are there not controls over what you may or may not burn in your yard for fear of polluting the atmosphere? Are there not controls over what you may erect on your land for fear that it may not look pretty? You are happy with not being allowed to smoke up Arkansas, or not making the neighbourhood unsightly, but you want to give psychopaths the right to own a gun.
Seens logical until it is your kid that gets shot for a laugh.
You are sounding stupid again, Psycopaths are not allowed to own a gun in the USA, There are all number of reasons that prevent people from legally owning guns, Quote:
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Originally Posted by Thormaturge Does the right to bear arms extend to nuclear weapons? | Now you sound like an idiot.. |
You sound like one of these guys who wants the right to get a gun out whenever he is losing an argument.
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Originally Posted by Thormaturge If Americans are prepared to live with that risk then fine. Frankly I'm not, although I have no objection to people shooting whatever weapon they choose for sport. I just don't agree with people keeping such lethal weapons in their homes. | If you do not like to live in a free country where you are free to have in your home what you wish to have then go to countrys where you have few personal freedoms and you feel safer, kinda like Thailand where it is the cops who decide who has a gun in his house and who don't, do you feel safer now?? |
Yes. I come from the UK where the suggestions I have made are in place and the country is a much safer place to live. The regular cops don't need to carry guns and the per capita murder rate is 10% of America's.
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Originally Posted by Thormaturge Making it an offence for anyone other than law enforcement to carry a gun outside a recognised firing range, with say a ten year term, would enable the cops to clear a lot of unwanted people off the streets PDQ. | Boy that would sure stop the terrorist shit wouldn't it,, coarse most of the terror is done not with sporting weapons but with 50 KG powder packs and rockets.. But you keep making noises likle that and someone will cover you up. |
Who is talking terror? I am referring to everyday murder, most of which is committed by people who know each other and with small arms, not with powder kegs and rockets, but in a country where any nutter is allowed to own an RPG I can see how nobody would consider it unusual for the neighbours to own the odd rocket or two.
As far as terrorism is concerned I fail to see how having the right to bear arms would have prevented 9/11.[/quote]
As you might have noticed, the right to keep and bear arms did not stop 9/11, the right to keep and bear arms is one of the freedoms that the American people have held for themselves whether it has anything to do with protecting world freedom or not is a moot point, There were no firearms involved in 9/11, I heard that there were a few small box cutter knives but no firearms, so you are sounding like a fool again. No one in the USA is allowed to legally own an RPG, nor a full autofire weapon, there are special licenses for collectors to hold such weapons, you seem to actually know very little about what you are trying to seem expert on tho.