Halliburton: How To Get Laid in a Islamic Warzone

**Tchiowa** · 13-12-2007, 12:07 AM

Just rape your fellow coworker.

ABC News: Victim: Gang-Rape Cover-Up by U.S., Halliburton/KBR

**dobella** · 13-12-2007, 01:43 AM

i worked for brown and root / halliburton offshore for 17 yrs. around the
middle/far east and we had women 'engineers' appearing towards the end of my workspan and it did 'enlighten' the jobsite.
i firmly beleive that there are certain jobs that are not suitable for women
due to our biological differences.

**kayo** · 13-12-2007, 01:55 AM

Legal experts say Jones' alleged assailants will likely never face a judge and jury, due to an enormous loophole that has effectively left contractors in Iraq beyond the reach of United States law.

despite an article I read last week stating that The US law states it can arrest and put on trial anyone from any country anywhere...

This is a horrid story.

She is cute though

**Hootad Binky** · 13-12-2007, 02:03 AM

They kept her in a shipping container. She borrowed a mobile from one of her captors and phoned her Dad in the US, who then phoned his Congressman, who called the State Department, who finally flew out and got her out. She was medically examined and vaginal/anal rape was confirmed.

In the interview with the Congressman I heard last night, the names and current locations of the alleged perps have remained unnamed by Justice, despite repeated inquiries. I imagine they had received an unpleasant phone call from the Actual President (and actual CEO of Haliburton, for that matter).

From the OP link:

"Legal experts say Jones' alleged assailants will likely never face a judge and jury, due to an enormous loophole that has effectively left contractors in Iraq beyond the reach of United States law."

So, in other words, the US can be the World's Policeman and incarcerate whomever it wants, torture whomever it wants, but it can't prosecute American citizens on American government contracts breaking American law and committing crimes against other Americans!

It's getting beyond belief.

**dobella** · 13-12-2007, 02:16 AM

after the american goverment per se, there is no further heiriacy than
halliburton.
they built all roads and infrastructeure in vietnam due to their
contacts with the lyndon johnson administration and continued their
profiteering through most conflicts since.
err .. i never said that o.k.?
she will probably get a pay off.

**Texpat** · 13-12-2007, 02:26 AM

I don't believe her.

When did this happen?

I read the story twice and it never says.

It's at least two years old. Something's fishy.

She was drugged?
Disappearing medical report? Where are the doctors?

"Don't plan on working back in Iraq. There won't be a position here, and there won't be a position in Houston," Jones says she was told.

Told by who? Take the gloves off girl.

I could be wrong, but there seem to be a lot of holes in this story.

**Boon Mee** · 13-12-2007, 03:24 AM

^
Second that...just more ChimpyMcHalliburton-bashing going on. Anyone can get a job in the oilfield these days - even ray if he wanted...

**Hootad Binky** · 13-12-2007, 06:17 AM

The OP article is spread over three pages:

Originally Posted by OP article

Jones told ABCNews.com that an examination by Army doctors showed she had been raped "both vaginally and anally," but that the rape kit disappeared after it was handed over to KBR security officers.

A spokesperson for the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security told ABCNews.com he could not comment on the matter

Over two years later, the Justice Department has brought no criminal charges in the matter. In fact, ABC News could not confirm any federal agency was investigating the case.

It's been two years because the State Department and Justice has said nothing and done nothing about it.

KBR tells its side of the story. They deny Jones’ claim and refer to it as “sexual harassment” and not a “brutal rape.” KBR also says the company took prompt action in response to Jones’ outcry and was quick to offer her all manner of support. They say Jones was administered a sexual assault examination after the incident.

“What we hear is the rape kit is nowhere to be found, so the physical evidence has disappeared,” Poe said.

Ex-Halliburton employee: I was raped on the job | News for Austin, Texas | kvue.com | State News

KBR has not explained what it did with the evidence, according to Republican Representative (Texas) Ted Poe, her Congressman.

We can still trust the word of a Republican, can't we?

**barbaro** · 13-12-2007, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

I don't believe her.

When did this happen?

I read the story twice and it never says.

It's at least two years old. Something's fishy.

She was drugged?
Disappearing medical report? Where are the doctors?

"Don't plan on working back in Iraq. There won't be a position here, and there won't be a position in Houston," Jones says she was told.

Told by who? Take the gloves off girl.

I could be wrong, but there seem to be a lot of holes in this story.

A lawsuit has been filed, so more facts will be made available.

Note that her Congressmen was contacted by her father, and has made queries.

We'll see what transpires.

**chitown** · 13-12-2007, 07:25 AM

^ Or more lies will be made available.........

**chitown** · 13-12-2007, 07:48 AM

Board

In this link there is a pic of her mom too

Originally Posted by kayo

Legal experts say Jones' alleged assailants will likely never face a judge and jury, due to an enormous loophole that has effectively left contractors in Iraq beyond the reach of United States law.

despite an article I read last week stating that The US law states it can arrest and put on trial anyone from any country anywhere...

This is a horrid story.

She is cute though

**Lily** · 13-12-2007, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by dobella

around the middle/far east and we had women 'engineers' appearing towards the end of my workspan and it did 'enlighten' the jobsite. i firmly beleive that there are certain jobs that are not suitable for women due to our biological differences.

Oh, so we can be like the Muslims that are decried so much.

Prevent women from doing things or cover them up, because you cant expect men not to attack and rape.

Originally Posted by Texpat

I don't believe her.

Of course you don't. The US embassy rescued her from detainment by armed guards in a shipping container. Why was that do you think?

But I think the rape is not in question; the question is, should the perpetrators be held responsible.

Originally Posted by chitown

Or more lies will be made available.........

What basis do you have for presuming that this woman is lying?

Because men dont do things like that? Or because you think that women lie about it, more than it happens?

Originally Posted by chitown

In this link there is a pic of her mom too

Eh? Or do you think she is not young enough looking for the men to bother raping her?

**chitown** · 13-12-2007, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

Or more lies will be made available.........

"What basis do you have for presuming that this woman is lying?

Because men dont do things like that? Or because you think that women lie about it, more than it happens?"

Innocent until proven guilty for one.

**Lily** · 13-12-2007, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

Innocent until proven guilty for one.

I agree, but as it stands no one is going to go to trial, because they are outside of the law.

The topic isn't whether she was raped or not. The topic is that no one has been charged with rape.

She deserves her day in court too, but you have already judged her guilty of lying. Where is your presumption of innocence here.

Are only men accused of rape, considered to have the presumption of innocence?

**Hootad Binky** · 13-12-2007, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by chitown

Innocent until proven guilty

Ah, that only counts if you've been charged in the first place. In this situation, even though the company admits there was an assault (and examination) so by definition the existence of perpetrators, it, the State Department and Justice refuse to comment, much less name or charge the alleged perpetrators everyone acknowledges to exist in the first place.

It's absurd, there's clearly enough evidence for an investigation; it simply doesn't conform to a minimum standard of justice because innocence is not proven and the plaintiff never gets their day in court.

**Lily** · 13-12-2007, 10:31 AM

^No, it suits them better to just presume the victim is lying and insult her on top of it.

What was that snide comment about the picture of her mother?

**Texpat** · 13-12-2007, 10:31 AM

Shipping container
Easily converted into small, relocatable living quarters. Frequently used by military and contractors where their presence is temporary. I worked out of one of these jobbers in Saudi for six months -- a double wide.

Either way, lets hope the truth comes out in this case. Story said she was going on 20/20 soon.

**Hootad Binky** · 13-12-2007, 10:36 AM

Agreed ^ It can't be ignored now.

**Lily** · 13-12-2007, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

I worked out of one of these jobbers in Saudi for six months -- a double wide.

With an armed guard to prevent you from leaving?

**Texpat** · 13-12-2007, 10:39 AM

Actually, yes, armed guards everywhere. I imagine it's worse in Iraq.

**Lily** · 13-12-2007, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

Actually, yes, armed guards everywhere. I imagine it's worse in Iraq.

Nicely sidestepped.

Armed guards to keep you in the container and prevent you leaving? A personal armed guard for the purpose on keeping you contained (pardon the pun)?

**Texpat** · 13-12-2007, 11:10 AM

I think you're missing my point. The story has a lot of holes and if it were me, I'd make damn sure as many people as possible knew every detail of this alleged incident. Name the doctor. Name the bosses. Name the perps. Scream from the highest mountain. Somehow, that isn't being done. Granted she's a 22-year-old (I think) and may be scared and confused.

"Jones says she was held in the shipping container for at least 24 hours without food or water by KBR, which posted armed security guards outside her door, who would not let her leave."

Guards are always posted near living quarters because that's where bad guys can get the best bang for their riyal. She was drugged? and wanted to leave the compound? Yes, I can see where they wouldn't let her. She obviously had access to medical personnel -- who have also gone silent.

Her story, as written by the OP, just doesn't add up. Let's watch it.

This is not a personal attack on you, but often people who have never been in very dangerous places have no concept of how the rules change -- a lot of rules. First-time reporters, for example, have a great deal of trouble adjusting to not being able to go and do what they want, when they want.

If she had walked out of the compound in a huff and had her head blown off ... fuckin' Halliburton.

**Lily** · 13-12-2007, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Texpat

She obviously had access to medical personnel -- who have also gone silent.

Not until she was rescued by the Embassy officials. Did you read the link?

**Texpat** · 15-12-2007, 12:12 AM

Read the lawsuit here:

Jones, Et Al v. Halliburton Company et al Document 1 - :: Justia Docs

Still some holes, but claim sounds much more believable.

**Boon Mee** · 15-12-2007, 01:30 AM

A lot of holes in her story...

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