Thread: 'USAF struck Syrian nuclear site'

'USAF struck Syrian nuclear site'
By JPOST.COM STAFF
Nov 2, 2007

The September 6 raid over Syria was carried out by the US Air Force, the Al-Jazeera Web site reported Friday.

The Web site quoted Israeli and Arab sources as saying that two US jets armed with tactical nuclear weapons carried out an attack on a suspected nuclear site under construction.

The sources were quoted as saying that Israeli F-15 and F-16 jets provided cover for the US planes.

The sources added that each US plane carried one tactical nuclear weapon and that the site was hit by one bomb and was totally destroyed.

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jpost.com



tactical nuclear weapon ???

wtf

^ I need to see some more corroboration.

I'll google later. If you find any other alternative sources, it'd be great if you put them up, Mid.

agree on the corroboration.

story is being watched on a US board , just posted there .

Suspected Syrian Nuclear Site Dismantled?
By PAMELA HESS Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON Oct 25, 2007 (AP)

Satellite images said to suggest facility removed after Israeli airstrike


RIGHT: This is a satellite image of Syria collected on October 24, 2007. The area was believed to be the site of a partly built nuclear reactor until it was suspected to be attacked by Israeli forces in September and later covered up.
(DigitalGlobe via Getty Images)



New commercial satellite images show a suspected Syrian nuclear reactor site has been wiped clean since it was bombed Sept. 6 by Israeli aircraft.

Analysts say the cleanup will hinder a proposed investigation by international nuclear inspectors and suggests Syria is trying to conceal evidence.

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abcnews.go.com

Zionist source: America participated air raid on Syria
الجمعة 22 من شوال 1428هـ 2-11-2007م الساعة 12:11 ص مكة المكرمة 09:11 م جرينتش
Friday 22 of Shawwal 1428 e 2-11-2007 m at 12:11 p. Mecca 09:11 m GMT

مفكرة الإسلام : كشف مصدر "إسرائيلي" وآخر عربي أن الغارة الجوية التي شنتها طائرات صهيونية على سوريا في سبتمبر الماضي تمت بمشاركة أمريكية.

Islammemo: source revealed "Israeli" and another that the Arab air raid launched by the Zionist planes on Syria last September was an American participation.

وقالت شخصية "إسرائيلية" بارزة على لسان مصدر أمني محلي مطلع: إن الغارة الجوية على سوريا في سبتمبر الماضي استهدفت منشأة نووية كانت قيد الإنشاء.

Her personality "Israeli" landmark on the San beginning of a local security source: The air raid on Syria last September aimed at the nuclear facility under construction.

وأضاف رجل الأعمال الذي طلب عدم نشر اسمه -في تصريح خاص للجزيرة نت-: إن العملية تمت بمشاركة طائرتين قاذفتين أمريكيتين استراتيجيتين حملتا قنابل نووية تكتيكية صغيرة، ورافقهما سرب طائرات "إسرائيلية" من نوع إف 15 وإف 16 تولت مسؤولية المراقبة والحماية.

The businessman, who asked not to be identified - told of the island-Net: that the process was the participation of two strategic bombers Americas sticking small tactical nuclear bombs, aircraft squadron They were accompanied "Israeli" F-15, F-16, took responsibility for control and
protection.

وذكر المصدر الأمني أن كلا من المقاتلتين الأمريكيتين حملت قنبلة نووية تكتيكية واحدة، منوها إلى أن استهداف المنشأة قد تم بقنبلة واحدة؛ مما أدى إلى تدميرها والتسبب بحفرة كبيرة في المكان.

The source said that both the security of U.S. tactical nuclear bomb loaded one, noting that the target had been established one bomb; , Which led to its destruction and causing great Bhfarh in place.

في ذات الوقت كشف مصدر سياسي مرموق من أراضي 48 استنادا بحسب سوري مطلع, أن ست طائرات شاركت في قصف مشروع كبير قيد الإنشاء في دير الزور دون الإشارة لطبيعته.

At the same time political source revealed distinguished from the territory of 48 basis according to a Syrian beginning, that the six aircraft participated in the bombing of a major project under construction in Deir Al-Zour without reference to nature.

وأشار المصدر إلى أن القصف الجوي لم يوقع ضحايا أو إصابات، موضحا أن أجهزة الرادار السورية رصدت تلك الليلة الطائرات الست المهاجمة إضافة إلى 25 طائرة مقاتلة في محيط الأجواء القبرصية ساعة الهجوم.

The source pointed out that the air strikes did not cause casualties or injuries, explaining that the Syrian radar devices made that night six aircraft attacking in explaining that the Syrian radar devices made that night six aircraft attacking in addition to 25 fighter aircraft in the vicinity of Cypriot airspace hour attack.

islammemo.cc

New Satellite Surveillance System Was Key Israeli Tool In Syria Raid
David A. Fulghum, Robert Wall and Douglas Barrie/Aviation Week & Space Technology
Nov 2, 2007


Israel pulled out all the stops technologically in its recent raid on Syria, employing several new intelligence-gathering and strike systems in a chain of events stretching from satellite observations to precision bombing of a target thought to be a nuclear facility.

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aviationweek.com

Originally Posted by Mid

the participation of two strategic bombers Americas sticking small tactical nuclear bombs...

The source said that both the security of U.S. tactical nuclear bomb loaded one

How would they know that?

Al Jazeera is one of the news channels I get on my sat and I watch it every day, them and CCTV channel #9 from Beijing and channel news Asia from Sing. and I have yet to see anything about American planes in on the raid into Syria, they did have a shot about it last week, but was that sat shot of the cleaned up site and were wondering why the site had been so well manicured if nothing was suspect about what was there.

So I think that the OP is a bullshit story.

[quote=Mid;443932]
I can’t even find the story on AJ’s website; we’ll have to take JPost’s word that it was there. Is there any reason to believe this is something other than pure, undistilled anti-American shinola being peddled by jihadis’ favorite news source?
/quote]

Al Jazeera is far from being the jihadists favourite news source, in fact a few of their reporters have been killed by both jihadists and US forces. Al Qaeda is certainly no fan of theirs.

They are a credible news source, but this source is from a Blog not their mainstream news.

Originally Posted by Mid

agree on the corroboration.

story is being watched on a US board , just posted there .

Sounds like James Bond, much more exciting than saying "I read it on a forum"

Fucking Christ, another unsubstantiated News Spam feed by Mid the spammer

What's next ? Martian invasion ?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Fucking Christ, another unsubstantiated News Spam feed by Mid the spammer

What's next ? Martian invasion ?

You mean you don't appreciate his news-felching abilities? I find his technique of sucking up the journo-jizz from the darkest orifices of the internet and snowballing it across Thailand forums fascinating.

Yea, thats more a RayC smear the shit thing than anyone else.

But he does post a link and says it has happened when it pobly never will.

Last update - 17:12 03/11/2007
Report: Syria gov't kept nuke facility secret from army to avoid leaks

By Haaretz Service

The veil of secrecy in Damascus surrounding Syria's alleged nuclear facility left it vulnerable to aerial attack, Aviation Week magazine on Saturday quoted an Israeli official as saying.
According to foreign media reports, the facility was the target of an Israel Air Force strike deep inside Syrian territory in early September.
"The target was so highly classified in Damascus that the military wasn't briefed and, therefore, air defenses were unprepared," Aviation Week reported, attributing the information to an Israeli official.
The U.S. publication said Israel used an array of sophisticated technological tools ranging from satellites to anti-electronic warfare to plan and carry out the alleged bombing of the complex in northern Syria, said to be built with the aid of North Korea.
A previous report by ABC claimed Israel had obtained detailed pictures of the Syrian complex from an apparent mole.
ABC, citing a senior U.S. official, said the person had provided several pictures of the complex from the ground, and Israel showed the images to the CIA. The U.S. spy agency helped pinpoint "drop points" to assist in potential targeting, ABC said.
Israel urged the United States to destroy the complex, but Washington hesitated because no fissionable material was found that would prove the site was nuclear, ABC said.

Report: Syria gov't kept nuke facility secret from army to avoid leaks - Haaretz - Israel News

Israel used electronic attack in air strike against Syrian mystery target


Oct 8, 2007
By David A. Fulghum and Douglas Barrie Mysteries still surround Israel’s air strike against Syria. Where was the attack, what was struck and how did Israel’s non-stealthy warplanes fly undetected through the Russian-made air defense radars in Syria?
There also are clues that while the U.S. and Israel are struggling in the broader information war with Islamic fundamentalists, Tel Aviv’s air attack against a “construction site” in northern Syria may mean the two countries are beginning to win some cyberwar battles.
U.S. officials say that close examination of the few details of the mission offers a glimpse of what’s new in the world of sophisticated electronic sleight-of-hand. That said, they fault the Pentagon for not moving more quickly to make cyberwarfare operational and for not integrating the capability into the U.S. military forces faster.
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said last week that the Israelis struck a building site at Tall al-Abyad just south of the Turkish border on Sept. 6. Press reports from the region say witnesses saw the Israeli aircraft approach from the Mediterranean Sea while others said they found unmarked drop tanks in Turkey near the border with Syria. Israeli defense officials finally admitted Oct. 2 that the Israeli Air Force made the raid.
U.S. aerospace industry and retired military officials indicated the Israelis utilized a technology like the U.S.-developed “Suter” airborne network attack system developed by BAE Systems and integrated into U.S. unmanned aerial vehicle operations by L-3 Communications. Israel has long been adept at using unmanned systems to provoke and spoof Syrian surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems, as far back as the Bekka Valley engagements in 1982.
Air Force officials will often talk about jamming, but the term now involves increasingly sophisticated techniques such as network attack and information warfare. How many of their new electronic attack options were mixed and matched to pull off this raid is not known.
The U.S. version of the system has been at the very least tested operationally in Iraq and Afghanistan in the last year, most likely against insurgent communication networks. The technology allows users to invade communications networks, see what enemy sensors see and even take over as systems administrator so sensors can be manipulated into positions where approaching aircraft can’t be seen, they say. The process involves locating enemy emitters with great precision and then directing data streams into them that can include false targets and misleading messages that allow a number of activities including control.
Clues, both good and unlikely, are found in Middle East press reports. At least one places some responsibility for the attack’s success on the U.S.
After the strike, the Kuwaiti newspaper Al Watan reported that U.S. jets provided aerial cover for Israeli strike aircraft during the attack on Syria. Similar statements of American involvement were made by Egyptian officials after the 1967 and 1973 wars with Israel.
More interesting is the newspaper’s claim that “Russian experts are studying why the two state-of-the-art Russian-built radar systems in Syria did not detect the Israeli jets entering Syrian territory,” it said. “Iran reportedly has asked the same question, since it is buying the same systems and might have paid for the Syrian acquisitions.”
Syria’s most recent confirmed procurement was of the Tor-M1 (SA-15 Gauntlet) short-range mobile SAM system. It uses vehicle-mounted target-acquisition and target-tracking radars. It is not known whether any of the Tor systems were deployed in the point-defense role at the target site struck by Israeli aircraft. If, however, the target was as “high-value” as the Israeli raid would suggest, then Tor systems could well have been deployed.
Iran bought 29 of the Tor launchers from Russia for $750 million to guard its nuclear sites, and they were delivered in January, according to Agence France-Presse and ITAR-TASS. According to the Syrian press, they were tested in February. Syria has also upgraded some of its aging S-125s (SA-3 Goa) to the Pechora-2A standard. This upgrade swaps out obsolete analog components for digital.
Syrian air defense infrastructure is based on for the most part aging Soviet SAMs and associated radar. Damascus has been trying to acquire more capable “strategic” air defense systems, with the country repeatedly associated with efforts to purchase the Russian S-300 (SA-10 Grumble/SA-20) long-range SAM. It also still operates the obsolescent S-200 (SA-5 Gammon) long-range system and its associated 5N62 Square Pair target engagement radar. There are also unconfirmed reports of Syrian interest in the 36D6 Tin Shield search radar.
There remains the second mystery of the actual site of the target and its use. Israeli news reports contend it was a compound near Dayr az-Zwar in north central Syria, and not Tall al-Abyad farther north. The site of the attack has been described as a transshipment point for weapons intended for the Hez*bollah in Lebanon to restock missile stores that were used in last summer’s fighting with Israel. Others contend it is a site with nuclear materials that may be associated with Iran’s nuclear bomb program. Mentions are also made of a North Korean ship arriving in Syria only days before the attack and the presence of North Korean workers in Syria for several months.
“There are always indications the North Koreans are doing something they shouldn’t, Vice Adm. Robert Murrett, director of the National Geospatial-intelligence Agency (NGA), told Aviation Week & Space Technology in response to a question about the shipment of nuclear materials from North Korea to Syria, which were subsequently bombed. “They are a high priority. We work as a key element . . . on the trafficking of WMD [weapons of mass destruction] and high-interest arms shipments anyplace.”
It’s part of a growing NGA role in spotting the proliferation of weapons technology “which may be coming from East Asia to the Middle East . . . that we don’t want to cross borders.” Other crucial boundaries for surveillance include the borders in all directions in Afghanistan and Iraq—which includes Syria and Iran—as well as semi-governed areas such as the Horn of Africa. The use of automation to aid rapid analysis is improving, but that’s being balanced by the fact that “the sheer volumes of data we are ingesting now . . . continue to increase by a couple of orders of magnitude on an annual basis,” he says.

Aviation Week : Israel used electronic attack in air strike against Syrian mystery target

doncha think the whole world would have their hair on fire if the US nuked someone?

doncha think the Brits, the Russians, the Chinese, the UN would be screaming bloddy murder?

wtf? recess is over kids.

^

don't know lately ...............

trust in the truth coming out is slipping ,

note that a couple of nuc's were flown around in the US and denied ............

Air Force releases B-52 munitions transfer investigation results

denied?

initally

^I read that story three times and nowhere does it indicate anybody ever denied anything. Can you clarify please?

nowhere does it indicate anybody ever denied anything

grant you that on semantics , my bad

my point was that nobody was screaming bloddy murder ,

and no doubt would have been even happier if we ( the great unwashed ) remained ignorant ....................

Yes, big faux pas.
A major command 4-star lost his job along with several others mentioned.
Rightly so.

Still the notion of the USAF secretly slipping into (anywhere) and launching a nuke without the entire world taking notice is preposterous.

It is perfectly feasible that the US engineered it so that Israel acted as a distraction (knowingly or not) and snuck and bombed the Syrian facility.

They don't have to tell anybody else about it. Not the UK, Russia, China etc.

If a tactical nuke was used believe it the world would know and most of it would be squealing.