Thread: extension of stay on grounds of 7.17 606/2006

National Police Office Order 606/2006


“Order 606/2006 - 7.17 In case of the foreign national is the member of the Thai national’s family
(Only for Father, Mother, Husband or Wife, ordinary child, adopted child or the
child of the marriage couple.) Permission shall be granted for the period not exceeding 1 year."

1. Copy of the National Police Office Order 606/2006 in English and Thai
2. TM7 Form (filled out)
3. Your Passport and photocopies of main page, entry stamp page and visa page.
4. 4x6 Photo
5. Original Thai Birth certificate and photocopies.
6. Original Thai Marriage certificate and photocopies.
7. Original & copies of House Registration certificate of wife and child
8. Original & copy of wife’s Thai ID card
9. Photos of House showing the Address Plate
10. A Family Photo of father, wife and child


Cases

7.17 In the case of a family
member of a Thai
(applicable only to
parents, spouse, child,
adopted child or child
of his/her spouse):
Permission will be
granted for a period of
not more than 1 year
at a time.

Basis for Consideration

(1) The alien has obtained a
temporary visa (NON-IM); and
(2) Proof of family relationship;
and
(3) In the case of a spouse, the
marital relationship shall be de
jure (legitimate) and de facto;
or
(4) In the case of a child, adopted
child or child of his/her spouse,
the said person must not be
married, must be living with the
family, and must be less than
20 years of age; or
(5) In the case of a parent, the said
person must be 50 years of age
or over; or
(6) In the case of an alien married
to a Thai woman, any party or
both must have a total income
of not less than Baht 40,000 per
month, except for aliens who
entered the Kingdom before
this Order came into force and
granted a permit to stay in the
Kingdom. If the alien does not
have the minimum income
above, he shall have an account
deposit in Thailand in the name
of either party or both of not
less than Baht 400,000. Proof
of account deposit for the
previous 3 months is required.




I have this extension of stay on the basis I am over 50, married to a Thai and have fathered 3 kids here in Thailand.

I obtained this particular extension last December, there was no need for me to show any income or money in the bank.

Now a good friend of mine has just had his 50th and would like to obtain the same extension of stay on grounds of 7.17. However he and his Thai partner are not married,


Does anyone here know if marriage is necessary to qualify?

Originally Posted by gjbkk

I have this extension of stay on the basis I am over 50, married to a Thai and have fathered 3 kids here in Thailand.

Where did you apply?

I tried and got refused. They said I had to show money in bank.

gjbkk, I know this doesn't answer your question but there is another thread here that discusses 7.17(5)

You might find it interesting to see what has already been said

https://teakdoor.com/doing-things-leg...ng-parent.html (Child supporting parent)

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Originally Posted by gjbkk

I have this extension of stay on the basis I am over 50, married to a Thai and have fathered 3 kids here in Thailand.

Where did you apply?

I tried and got refused. They said I had to show money in bank.

I got my extension at main Immigration office at Bangkok, I went in in the morning and was granted the extension on the condition that I provided photographs of the house the following morning and returned without the kids.

It did help taking in the three kids with us, at the time of application they were 11 and 3 years old and the boy was just 1 month old.

During the interview the 4 year old demolished the rotary stamp holder on the officer's desk and the new kid just cried. I am certain they gave the extension just to get rid of us.

I found them quite helpful at they did show some sympathy towards my wife and I trying to maintain some order with the kids.

All I can advise is take the kids next time and best of luck

So far as I know only Bangkok has ever given an extension under 7.17.5

Will your friend be applying in Bangkok?
The requirements are that you are living in the same house as a dependent and over 50 years old.
It is certainly worth a try.

I think that if I have to put up with a bunch of kids that I will just carry on as I have been.

Originally Posted by Thetyim

So far as I know only Bangkok has ever given an extension under 7.17.5

I've been in contact with the guy who got it in Korat but he had to show some money

Sorry "know" was the wrong word to use.
Sun Belt posted that he had been successful in Bangers

How much did he have to show in Korat?

Just checked and the reason why it was sent to Bkk was because the woman supervisor in Korat refused to issue the extension. Must have been one big slap in the face when it came back stamped as she has now moved. Not sure if to do with this incident though. Sadly I wont miss her. So the way forward is that if your local office refuses to issue it, have them send the application to Bkk. 8 days later job done and no draining trip to Bkk.

I was the one who helped this client in Korat to get his extension based on 7,17 (5) *support of a child. Yes, it went to BKK, he had to show some money. Can't tell you how much, I don't have the client's consent but this story was posted somewhere else. So, it's public, but not his bank account!

Yes, the captain left after but I believe it has nothing to do with it. And she is back...

I met them 2 weeks ago and we had a speech about 7.17 (5). I already posted what I know about it and I am kind of tired to repeat it... If you want to try it, go to immigration, show them the law, print some post from forums, argue...maybe you will get it, maybe they will ask money because you must SUPPORT the child, maybe the officer will be nice with you and do it. TIT.

I will do another one in January, don't know the date. The foreigner has an income of 30K per month. Not enough for retirement or marriage extension. I was told in Korat (because we double check before) that we should have no problem....

I am going down to Bangkok next weekend to apply for that visa on Monday 21st January. Previously I had a Thai wife support visa which expired in September while I was working off shore. I have done all the documentation so in a few days time the proof of the pudding will be ...........


edited for bad spelling

'Crabfat' - I like that handle... Have a green.

Originally Posted by crabfat

I am going down to Bangkok next weekend to apply for that visa on Monday 21st January. Previously I had a Thai wife support visa which expired in September while I was working off shore. I have done all the documentation so in a few days time the proof of the pudding will be ...........

I look forward to you reporting back. Good luck.

Living with my Thai child visa extension.
Thai police order 606/2549 para 7.15 (5)

I am 63, married for 8 years this coming April and our son will be 4 in August.

I went this morning and arrived about 10.30 when the wife threw me out of the car and told me to get started while she found a parking space. I collected all the paperwork together at home and brought it all down with me but one thing I found is that the glue pot used to stick your photo on the application has 2 modes, not enough or bugger it now I need a new form and photo.
Then I sat and waited as the other 29 applicants in front of me plus many agents? went through the process plus the office, while not closed at lunch time showed a distinct lack of progress for about 45 minutes.
My turn came and as my wife and son had gone for lunch I called them back when there were about 2 people in front of me and we went up together.
At first the lady asked for proof of salary or income so I explained that I was applying to live with my son. Oh, OK was the reply. She preferred the passport and tabien baan copies in black and white and not colour so my wife went off and did that and the rest went smoothly except my wife was given another form to sign saying that it was all OK with her and I had to fill in the one for our son as he is only 3 1/2 and she took his thumbprint as a signature which was a surprise for him. She also gave him a few sweeties which he thanked her for.
The whole process took about 20 minutes and we were out of the building in just under 3 hours. I was also due to make a 90 day report next week but I got a small letter stapled to the passport which says that by completing the extension I have also notified them of the 90 days so that report is not due until 21 April now.
I have a month’s extension and have to report back on 19th February to collect the visa stamp hopefully.



This is a copy of the documents that I brought with me using both Sunbelt and firstly Badbankers information from last year.

I have a copy in Excel that I would like to pin for anyone else to use if some kind person will tell me how to do it.

Living with Thai child paperwork reqd
Sunbelt paperwork Original Copy 1 Copy 2
Yes No Yes No Yes No
1 A photocopy and the original of the foreigner applicant’s passport
2 A photocopy and the original of your child’s Birth Certificate
3 A photocopy and the original of your Marriage certificate (with child’s mother) which certified by
UK Embassy in Thailand as well.
4 a photo of me 4*6 cm to attach to the application form
5 a photocopy and the original of your wife's ID card
6 a photocopy and original of the Tabien Baan with wife and child named on the register
7 a map of the house showing the directions
8 a photo of the family at the house and about 4 photos of my wife, child and me in front of the house number and some inside
Child's mother to go to the immigration office with child and me because the officer will interview both parents. The applicant
will get the consideration time of 1 month and get a long visa after that.


Posted by: Badbanker 2007-04-22 10:58:47
Visa Extension over 50 to Support Thai Child (Long)
Extension of Non Imm "O" based on Age Over 50 and Support of Thai Child Original Copy 1 Copy 2
Yes No Yes No Yes No
1 Copy of the National Police Office Order 606/2006 in English and Thai
2 Passport and photocopies of main page, entry stamp page and visa page
3 Original Thai Birth Certificate of son and photocopies
4 Original Thai Marriage Certificate and photocopies
5 Original Letter from doctor on Hospital Letter Head confirming he delivered my son
6 Copies of House Registration certificate of wife and son
7 Copy of wife’s Thai ID card

Originally Posted by crabfat

I have a copy in Excel that I would like to pin for anyone else to use if some kind person will tell me how to do it.

You can't, I'm afraid.

Thanks for the info though.

^^My question is:- once you have this visa/extention of stay does one have to renew every year and still do the 90 day reporting or is that all finish with until the youngest child reaches adult age ? Thanks

Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun

^^My question is:- once you have this visa/extention of stay does one have to renew every year and still do the 90 day reporting or is that all finish with until the youngest child reaches adult age ? Thanks

You always have to do 90 day reporting, no matter what extension of stay, unless you travel out of the country before any 90 period. I actually have never filed a 90 day report in 8 years because I travel a lot. Every extension is only good for one year.

Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun

is that all finish with until the youngest child reaches adult age

This extension is NOT to support a child it is to live with a child.
There is no age limited specified in the rules.

That might be the way for me to go, I have income but its derived from selling investments so hard to show a steady stream. Have one query tho, we were married in New Zealand, will this marriage certificate comply or do I have to get in notorised by those thieves at the embassy?

Originally Posted by Thetyim

There is no age limited specified in the rules.

Under Consideration Criterions (4) for rule 7.17, it says "shall not be older than 20". Or am I reading about the wrong extention of stay ?

Ivor,

Clause 3, 4, 5 have an "or" between them so you only have to comply with one of those three clauses not all of them

According to another forum they are now doing 7.17 extentions in Korat instead of having to go to BKK. Are they now doing this at all Immigration offices ? According to the forum, bank books have to be shown. It will be granted if money has been regularly deposited and withdrawls. Process takes a month so I've read.

I went to Nong kai immigration today to see about the 7.17 extension.
Showed the guy the regulations 7.17 and he said "only if divorced" WTF where does it say you have to be divorced? In fact it specifically mentions to produce proof of relationship such as marriage evidences (sic)
So I said If I get divorced from my wife I can get this visa, he said, Yes.
I said to him very politely and slowly, Can- you- read- this- and- show- me - where - it- mentions- divorce ?
His response, I don't need to, I know the regulations.
How the fvck do you deal with these morons?