Thread: Rodrigo Duterte

Be interesting to see his response to this act by the "Maute Group".
Let's kick some arse, Rodrigo!

Wife went to the big seafood market in Manila this morning. Said it was all cleaned up, sidewalk vendors gone, cops on patrol ticketing cars parked on the sidewalk, etc.

Had just dropped some folks off at the airport domestic terminal, and said that was flowing far better than usual as well.

Coincidence? Maybe...or not.

Drugdealing sidewalk vendors parking their vehicles on the sidewalks no longer? Maybe?

The Philippine Drug Crackdown Has Claimed 2,000 Lives in Two Months

Rodrigo Duterte, president of the Philippines since June 30, has continued his bloody war on illegal drugs, resulting in more than 2,000 violent deaths over the past two months at the hands of law enforcement, vigilante groups, and other unidentified actors. Human rights groups and the United Nations have condemned the extrajudicial killings, with the UN stating that the campaign amounts to a crime under international law. According to a report from Reuters, “close to 900 drug traffickers and users had been killed in police operations from July 1 to August 20 … on average 20 people a day.”

He's a thug, but that would be nothing new in this country. He DOES have ONE good idea.....withdrawing from the UN. Possibly the most useless organization on earth for third world countries.

Originally Posted by OhOh

Duterte declares "state of lawlessness" in S. Philippines after explosion - Global Times

"Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte declared Saturday "state of lawlessness" in southern island of Mindanao following a deadly attack allegedly perpetrated by the Abu Sayyaf Group in Davao City."

Any knowledge on who is assisting this group? Has the current President's previous accomplishments been overstated?

The usual...Islamists

Abu Sayyaf rebels officially vow allegiance to ISIS
Abu Sayyaf rebels officially vow allegiance to ISIS

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

The usual...Islamists

Abu Sayyaf rebels officially vow allegiance to ISIS
Abu Sayyaf rebels officially vow allegiance to ISIS

Not really. The Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) is hardly Muslim. They are a bunch of rural gang-bangers who grew out of several small bands of bank robbers and petty criminals and then made the press with the kidnapping-for-ransom of several groups of foreigners over the past several decades.

They are murderous criminals, somewhat similar to the Somali pirates.

They have butchered far more innocent Muslims, like in this market bombing, than non-Muslims.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

The Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) is hardly Muslim.

Islamic Terrorist groups not being muslims ? You are right, I hear that a lot lately.

As I stated, the ASG is NOT an Islamic terrorist group - they are a criminal gang specializing in kidnap-for-ransom, and the subsequent beheading of their innocent victims.

^ Why are you on about this group? Are you trying to smoke screen the genocide that his happening? The mass incarcerations?

^U talking to me?

Originally Posted by bsnub

^ Why are you on about this group? Are you trying to smoke screen the genocide that his happening? The mass incarcerations?

"Genocide" "Mass incarcerations". Quite the conclusions, Snub, for an American who has never been to the Philippines and knows nothing about it.

^Are you suggesting that they are home grown criminals, thieves and murderers with no political aims? That a competent police force/ legal processes would be able to eliminate them? Do they have any in or out of country supporters?

One view could be "somebody" is trying to influence the direction of the new government.

Duterte Tells Obama Not to Question Him About Killings

MANILA, PHILIPPINES —
Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte warned President Barack Obama on Monday not to question him about extrajudicial killings, or "son of a bitch I will swear at you" when they meet in Laos during a regional summit.

Duterte said before flying to Laos that he is a leader of a sovereign country and is answerable only to the Filipino people. He was answering a reporter's question about how he intends to explain the extrajudicial killings to Obama. More than 2,000 suspected drug pushers and users have been killed since Duterte launched a war on drugs after taking office on June 30.

In his typical foul-mouthed style, Duterte responded: "I am a president of a sovereign state and we have long ceased to be a colony. I do not have any master except the Filipino people, nobody but nobody. You must be respectful. Do not just throw questions. Putang ina I will swear at you in that forum," he said, using the Tagalog phrase for son of a bitch.

Duterte has earlier cursed the pope and U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

It isn't clear whether Obama plans to raise the issue of extrajudicial killings with Duterte during a meeting on the sidelines of the summit of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

"Who is he to confront me?" Duterte said, adding that the Philippines had not received an apology for misdeeds committed during the U.S. colonization of the Philippines.

He pointed to the killing of Muslim Moros more than a century ago during a U.S. pacification campaign in the southern Philippines, blaming the wounds of the past as "the reason why (the south) continues to boil" with separatist insurgencies.

Duterte also pointed to human rights problems in the United States.

Last week, Duterte said he was ready to defend his bloody crackdown on illegal drugs, which has sparked concern from the U.S. and other countries.

Duterte said he would demand that Obama allow him to first explain the context of his crackdown before engaging the U.S. president in a discussion of the deaths.

The White House had no immediate reaction to Duterte's comments. Obama has been attending a meeting of the Group of 20 nations in Hangzhou, China.

Duterte Tells Obama Not to Question Him About Killings

Obama cancels meeting with Philippines' Duterte after insult



President Barack Obama canceled what would have been his first meeting with Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte, after Duterte described Obama in vulgar terms, a White House spokesman said on Tuesday.


Duterte, a plain-spoken populist known for his colorful remarks and his campaign against illegal drugs in which thousands of people have died, described Obama as a “son of a bitch” to reporters on Monday, a day ahead of the planned meeting in Laos, where South Asian leaders are meeting for annual summits.


Obama learned about the insult as he emerged from the Group of 20 summit in Hangzhou, China. At a news conference, he said he had told his aides to speak with Philippine officials “to find out is this, in fact, a time where we can have some constructive, productive conversations,” leaving little doubt that the meeting would proceed as planned.


“I always want to make sure that if I'm having a meeting, that it's actually productive and we're getting something done,” Obama told reporters.


Instead, Obama now plans to meet later on Tuesday with South Korean President Park Geun-hye, said Ned Price, spokesman for the White House National Security Council - a meeting where the response to North Korea's latest missile tests is expected to be on the agenda.


Obama arrived in Vientiane just before midnight on Monday, for the first visit by a sitting U.S. president to Laos, where he wants to begin to address the legacy of U.S. bombing during the Vietnam War.


He was set to give an address on the importance he has placed on Southeast Asia in his foreign and economic policy during his two terms in office, which will end on Jan. 20, setting the stage for three days of meetings with regional leaders.


Obama cancels meeting with Philippines' Duterte after insult | Reuters

"Son of a bitch"/=(whore)...such public pleasantries in advance of their first meeting...well, what would have been their first meeting.

Who's Duterte going to call when China decides to push 'an agenda' in the Spratly's...Ghostbusters ?

Not much of an international debut for Duterte; isn't playing well here either.

Having said that ^, I doubt Duterte gives a shit. He came up as a tough provincial Mayor in Davao, and is crude, foul-mouthed, and shoots his mouth off without thinking. Nobody here cares much. They've had generations of rich, polished, perfumed politicians ripping them off and keeping them down for decades.

Crude or not, Duterte is viewed as a man of and for the people.

Most Filipinos live in abject poverty, in drug and crime saturated squatter areas. They care about his efforts to clean that up and improve their lot, not about his offending Obama, the Pope, or some UN kunt.

Originally Posted by misskit

Duterte said he would demand that Obama allow him to first explain the context of his crackdown before engaging the U.S. president in a discussion of the deaths.

Innocent until found guilty by a court, what else is there to explain?

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Having said that ^, I doubt Duterte gives a shit. He came up as a tough provincial Mayor in Davao, and is crude, foul-mouthed, and shoots his mouth off without thinking. Nobody here cares much. They've had generations of rich, polished, perfumed politicians ripping them off and keeping them down for decades.

Crude or not, Duterte is viewed as a man of and for the people.

Most Filipinos live in abject poverty, in drug and crime saturated squatter areas. They care about his efforts to clean that up and improve their lot, not about his offending Obama, the Pope, or some UN kunt.

Chavez is a good example of a "Big Mouth" running & ruining a country.
Venezuela at least has oil but what do the Filipinos have ?
I think he needs to visit Putin and take some lessons on how to shake hands, smile and don't give a shit.

Originally Posted by forreachingme

PeeCoffee, the other day Duterte went about the Chinese and told them officially what do you still make on those islands since they were already attributed to Phils by International court decison...

He starts picking at the Chinese Invasion...

The army is busy in the south as 7000 more were just sent. Dangerous situation there as Abhu Sayaf knows terrain and can hear them come from far with the bad infrastructure...

The problem is that the Philippines need the chinese and the japanese and the U.S. and....and...and....



https://www.devex.com/news/top-10-fo...lippines-76515

Originally Posted by forreachingme

told them officially what do you still make on those islands since they were already attributed to Phils by International court decison...

Pray, who made an unelected "court" official? Probably the countries leaders who stuffed the "court" with their henchmen, don't recognise a legal judgement/the rule of law either intentionally or domestically.

How many countries have accepted the result completely, how many have accepted it partially and how many have rejected it.

I'm waiting for a coalition to be formed.

Who by I wonder. The Ameristanis, whose attitude is if your not with us we bomb you back to the stone age.
The Japanese, who allegedly, turned their back on any overseas ventures after the world saw what they were capable of.
The Vietnamese, who have yet to proclaim their view.
The Australians who need to consider their own attitude regarding the East Timor statements. You know the bullied agreement on sovereignty and the refusal to accept a similar ruling by the same "court" and even go further, by suggesting the UN body, UNCLOS, has no ability to determine coastal boundaries.

Take of those rosy spectacles.

Originally Posted by HermantheGerman

The problem is that the Philippines need the chinese and the japanese and the U.S. and....and...and

Historically it's been the Japanese and Ameristnis who have provided the bulk of "aid". One can see from the economic growth that most of it was lost to corrupt politicians pockets. Most people think of Philippines as a source of female "servants", not a world leader in anything of substance.

Maybe it's time to look at a country which has been successful in raising a large proportion of it's population, from utter poverty into a growing prosperous population. There appears to be a neighbour who has done just that and is clamouring for others to join with it and create a "better" world. Or join a cabal of vassal states and continue being raped, physically and economically.